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why diddnt they bring mystic gohan to kill kid boo
Topic Started: Jan 14 2013, 01:34 AM (4,307 Views)
Alex D. Boss
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Nanho
Jan 14 2013, 07:08 AM
Lol what? indeed..
Yep. Goku is the hero. Live with it.
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I'm just gonna assume that Vegeta was scared they'd be dumb enough to get absorbed again. Honestly though there were so many ways they could have killed Buu much sooner it's not even funny. They wouldn't use potara or fusion dance because of their stupid pride and then Vegeta goes ahead with that stupid moral thing of the earthlings looking after themselves. Still it makes for some great entertainment and I wouldn't change it for the world.

If all the Z fighters were real heroes and were focused solely on saving the earth like Piccolo or Future Trunks then things would get sorted out a lot easier with much less death.

Characters like Piccolo, Future Trunks, Tien, Supreme Kai and Krillin technically deserve to be the ones with the power because they'd be the only ones smart and selfless enough to do the job quickly and efficiently without putting pride, glory or revenge ahead of the good of the earth.

What really is stupid with Vegeta is that he has the nerve to think of asking the humans for more energy that would drain all the life they had left in them and even says something along the lines of "If it wasn't for me they would still be dead" even though if it wasn't for him they wouldn't have died to begin with.
Edited by 90sDBZ, Jan 14 2013, 02:44 PM.
"The future of Gohan. The Future of Chi Chi. Not to mention the future of the entire universe. It all depends on me!!!! And I don't care if you're a million times stronger than me! I'm not going to let them down! So get ready Frieza because this time you're going Down!!!"
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Jan 14 2013, 02:10 PM
Nanho
Jan 14 2013, 07:08 AM
Lol what? indeed..
Yep. Goku is the hero. Live with it.
whos arguing that goku was the hero? :|

My argument was that he was influenced by the fans and that scene and the one before which makes little to no sense proves it.

In other words. I dont give a flying ***** who was the hero as long as the story around him being heroic makes sense. which the entire buu sga doesnt. and why I dislike it so much.
Edited by Nanho, Jan 14 2013, 03:30 PM.
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EMIYA
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"I am the bone of my sword."

It's been explained already. AT felt that Gohan was not suited for the role of the hero and instead continued to have Goku as the hero.

And no, AT was not giving into fan demands. As explained again, the Buu Arc wa actually where he had probably some of the most control when compared to his other arcs and Goku being the hero was not due to fan's demand.
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Alex D. Boss
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Nanho
Jan 14 2013, 03:24 PM
Tien Shinhan
Jan 14 2013, 02:10 PM
Nanho
Jan 14 2013, 07:08 AM
Lol what? indeed..
Yep. Goku is the hero. Live with it.
whos arguing that goku was the hero? :|

My argument was that he was influenced by the fans and that scene and the one before which makes little to no sense proves it.

In other words. I dont give a flying ***** who was the hero as long as the story around him being heroic makes sense. which the entire buu sga doesnt. and why I dislike it so much.
You can dislike it all you want , but AT decided to do it. Not the fans. Fans had never nothing to do with the DBZ series , IIRC.

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I thought it was that Vegeta wanted Earth's people to help because he was sick of always doing it himself?
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"I am the bone of my sword."

3. Genki-Dama [#BO3#GEN]
Chapter: 514 (DBZ 320), P8.3-4
Context: after Vegeta tells Goku to make a Genki-Dama
Goku: “Hey! So it was the Genki-Dama you were thinking of!? It-it’s no use! Against Boo, no matter how much we gathered little bits of genki from all the Earthlings…”
Vegeta: “I told you, right? That those guys on Earth should take responsibility every now and then…! It won’t be just little bit. We’ll gather ki from them right up to their limits!”

This is what ticks me off. It's one thing if the Earth created a problem on its own and then took responsibility for it, but Vegeta has no right to declare the Earth needs to take responsibility for something that's is nearly his entire fault.
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Yeah I see how it could be an annoyance but, I think it was more that he felt they didn't appreciate their work for Earth and that they never do a thing.
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Fans told Toriyama not to kill off Vegeta.

He killed off Vegeta purposely because the fans told him not to.

Case in point.
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BukLau
Jan 14 2013, 04:10 PM
Fans told Toriyama not to kill off Vegeta.

He killed off Vegeta purposely because the fans told him not to.

Case in point.
You got it backwards. Toriyama was going to kill off Vegeta after the Saiyan saga but due to his popularity with fans he kept him in.
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I've heard that, but I've also read this.

Toriyama Interview From Daizenshuu 5
 
Interviewer: Do you make any use of such fan opinions in the original work?
Toriyama: I do, in the sense of “betraying the fans’ expectations”. For instance, when I got a lot of, “Don’t kill Vegeta,” I deliberately killed him. (laughs)
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Do you know which time he's referring to there? Buu or Freeza saga?

I forgot about that interview (I'll need to go read it again to refresh my memory) but the part about him keeping Vegeta in was due to fan popularity too. So I guess he let both the fans have what they want while keeping himself happy? I dunno.
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The interview doesn't specify, IIRC, but I'd put my money on the Freeza Saga seeing as how in the Boo Saga, he at least died a more...honorable death.
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Tien Shinhan
Jan 14 2013, 03:44 PM
Nanho
Jan 14 2013, 03:24 PM
Tien Shinhan
Jan 14 2013, 02:10 PM
Nanho
Jan 14 2013, 07:08 AM
Lol what? indeed..
Yep. Goku is the hero. Live with it.
whos arguing that goku was the hero? :|

My argument was that he was influenced by the fans and that scene and the one before which makes little to no sense proves it.

In other words. I dont give a flying ***** who was the hero as long as the story around him being heroic makes sense. which the entire buu sga doesnt. and why I dislike it so much.
You can dislike it all you want , but AT decided to do it. Not the fans. Fans had never nothing to do with the DBZ series , IIRC.

''Fans had never nothing to do with the DBZ series , IIRC.''

You sure? :rofl:
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Well atleast in Buu arc.
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