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debora vs perfect cell
Topic Started: Jan 14 2013, 01:30 AM (1,872 Views)
tommy95
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who would win and why.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Dabura had trouble with an extremely weakened SSJ Gohan, he's not getting any further than Perfect cell (Against SSj Kid Gohan) and that's being extremely generous.
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Alex D. Boss
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Cell beats him.
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* Crashbreaka
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What do you guys make of this?

Chapter: 450 (DBZ 256), P2.5, P3.1-4
Context: after Kaioshin again warns against unleashing Boo
Vegeta: “Hmph…The way things are going, this ‘Majin Boo’ guy isn’t going to be anything special, is he? Just like that ‘Dabra’ jerk…[ ] I’m saying that this ‘Dabra’ guy doesn’t seem as bad as you two feared. Looking at his attacks and movement outside earlier, it seems that if we just watch out for his spit, then we should manage something. I can’t call Kibito anything but a bumbler for getting done-in like that…”
Kaioshin: “…Is-is that true, Son Goku?...”
Goku: “Yeah…Well, even if that wasn’t him at full force…I think that before he would have been a frightening opponent, but…7 years ago there was a guy called ‘Cell’…[Dabra]’s probably about as strong as him…”

Followed up by:

Chapter: 455 (DBZ 261), P6.1-2
Context: as Dabra fights Gohan
Goku: “Magic, huh? He’s way stronger than I thought, ain’t he?”
Vegeta: “Hmph…Even so, he’s not an opponent [he? we?] can’t win against. [Gohan]’s so pathetic…So much so that he was stronger as a brat…”
Goku: “He really did slack off!”

And then he says that Gohan is a poop.

Chapter: 459 (DBZ 265), P2.2-3
Badidi: “How about it, Dabra? Just to be sure, do you have confidence that you can defeat that Earthling [Gohan]?”
Dabra: “Naturally. I fought him a little bit before, after all. There’s no doubt that I can take care of trash like that.”

I'm kinda being thrown around here.
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Alex D. Boss
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Crashbreaka
Jan 14 2013, 02:42 AM
What do you guys make of this?

Chapter: 450 (DBZ 256), P2.5, P3.1-4
Context: after Kaioshin again warns against unleashing Boo
Vegeta: “Hmph…The way things are going, this ‘Majin Boo’ guy isn’t going to be anything special, is he? Just like that ‘Dabra’ jerk…[ ] I’m saying that this ‘Dabra’ guy doesn’t seem as bad as you two feared. Looking at his attacks and movement outside earlier, it seems that if we just watch out for his spit, then we should manage something. I can’t call Kibito anything but a bumbler for getting done-in like that…”
Kaioshin: “…Is-is that true, Son Goku?...”
Goku: “Yeah…Well, even if that wasn’t him at full force…I think that before he would have been a frightening opponent, but…7 years ago there was a guy called ‘Cell’…[Dabra]’s probably about as strong as him…”


Well a SSJ Gohan (who was weaker than Kid Gohan SSJ2) was a tie with Dabura , so that means Dabura is just as strong as Cell but not SPC.

Crashbreaka
Jan 14 2013, 02:42 AM
Followed up by:

Chapter: 455 (DBZ 261), P6.1-2
Context: as Dabra fights Gohan
Goku: “Magic, huh? He’s way stronger than I thought, ain’t he?”
Vegeta: “Hmph…Even so, he’s not an opponent [he? we?] can’t win against. [Gohan]’s so pathetic…So much so that he was stronger as a brat…”
Goku: “He really did slack off!”


SSJ2Gohan>SPC>Cell>~Dabura~/>SSJ Gohan

Crashbreaka
Jan 14 2013, 02:42 AM
And then he says that Gohan is a poop.

Chapter: 459 (DBZ 265), P2.2-3
Badidi: “How about it, Dabra? Just to be sure, do you have confidence that you can defeat that Earthling [Gohan]?”
Dabra: “Naturally. I fought him a little bit before, after all. There’s no doubt that I can take care of trash like that.”

I'm kinda being thrown around here.


Yeah it could be that Dabura was confident to beat him smh.
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Crashbreaka
Jan 14 2013, 02:42 AM
Goku: “Yeah…Well, even if that wasn’t him at full force…I think that before he would have been a frightening opponent, but…7 years ago there was a guy called ‘Cell’…[Dabra]’s probably about as strong as him…”
I remember this line.
Goku says that but then Dabra ties with SSJ Gohan, who should be weaker than his Cell Games self. So it doesn't really make sense, unless Dabra wasn't trying at all.
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'Twas a prediction on Goku's part, first off, to say Dabura's prolly on Cell's level. Note the fact that there's also a "even if that wasn't him at full force..." right before.

IIRC, the Japanese anime and the Viz translation both have Goku saying that Dabura was "tougher" than he thought, not stronger. It makes more sense because magic doesn't make you "stronger" (look at Kaioshin), but it could make you "tougher", sure.

Anyways, Cell wins.
Edited by Kyouks, Jan 14 2013, 05:09 AM.
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Debora=Dabura after a sex change operation.

To the topic,Goku said that Dabura was ''about the same as Cell''.He couldn't be referring to SPC,since he couldn't sense his chi from the afterlife.He
couldn't be referring to PC's supression he had fought either.When one says ''A and B are equal'',he means A's and B's full powers,unless it is
specified otherwise.Therefore,Dabura was definitely at Full Power Perfect Cell's tier.This can also work with the theory that Gohan was SSJ against
Dabura(which i don't believe,but that's another story).In the manga,their fight was short,so we can say that,by the time he felt Vegeta's evil,Dabura
had just finished warm up and was ready to go all out.
This fight would be one of the most exciting.With Dabura having the spit advantage and Cell the regenerating one,it can go either way.
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