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SSJ Mr. Satan vs Piccolo (Beginning of Z)
Topic Started: Jan 11 2013, 05:53 PM (3,087 Views)
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Tien Shinhan
Jan 15 2013, 12:56 PM
miguelnuva
Jan 15 2013, 07:54 AM
Didn't Hercule pull a bus. Goku's feats in DB were do to him not being normal not his PL you guys are trying to put DBZ logic on DB.

PL's didn't exist till Raditz but someone correct me if I wrong.
Goku gets shot by Bulma and got tickled by a bullet - Mr.Satan would die
Grabs a giant fish - I want to see Mr.Satan do this jumping in a river fighting a huge fish.
Fights a giant bear with sword - Mr.Satan would die easily
Jumps from trees to other trees - Mr.Satan can't jump , can't do shet
Gets hit by Bulma's car - Mr.Satan would be atleast in a hospital for few months lol

Mr.Satan hits few rocks and grabs his hands as he feels so much pain.


And besides Krillin tanked bullets too , so being a Saiyan/Human arguments are BS.
When did Krillen tank a Bullet?

And if you want to go by feats he survived blows from Cell, Trunks, Kid Buu and then even Omega Shenron.

And like I said before those stunts were to show Goku wasn't human at the time not that his PL was 10.
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Being strong has jack***** to do with being inhuman, the tail told us enough, lol.

Mr Satan >>> the androids if you're seriously bringing up those "feats".
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Jan 15 2013, 07:33 PM
Being strong has jack***** to do with being inhuman, the tail told us enough, lol.

Mr Satan >>> the androids if you're seriously bringing up those "feats".
Dragonball didn't have PL's at the time, AT had to show us Goku was different by feats. Kid Goku being a 10 came from after DBZ brought in the power levels and they went back and made PL's for DB characters.

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The fact that there are no numbers in DB means that there's no reason at all to go against the 10 he has..
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Krillin tanked a bullet from Launch, I believe.

But it's pretty baseless for people to have Mark so strong. I think it only stems from their disbelief that he somehow HAS to be at least double the power level of a normal human.
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Jan 15 2013, 07:27 PM
When did Krillen tank a Bullet?

And if you want to go by feats he survived blows from Cell, Trunks, Kid Buu and then even Omega Shenron.

And like I said before those stunts were to show Goku wasn't human at the time not that his PL was 10.

When Launch shot Krillin , he tanked it

Lol , they didn't even use there power to hurt him.

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Okay so Goku> Goku no tail> Krillen. Since Goku is 20 with his Tail I'll assume 8 or 9 without his tail and then Krillen is 7 or 8.

That means that unless Hercule is 6 you don't have to be 10 to Tank bullets. Maybe the fact that Goku and Krillen are better at Ki is why they can tank bullets then but I don't think during DB it is do to PL.

Lowest Hercule would be is 9.
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LOL though goku has the affinity to utilize ki, when he tanked that bullet there wasn't ki involved in that. that was natural.
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Jan 15 2013, 08:19 PM
Okay so Goku> Goku no tail> Krillen. Since Goku is 20 with his Tail I'll assume 8 or 9 without his tail and then Krillen is 7 or 8.

That means that unless Hercule is 6 you don't have to be 10 to Tank bullets. Maybe the fact that Goku and Krillen are better at Ki is why they can tank bullets then but I don't think during DB it is do to PL.

Lowest Hercule would be is 9.
Krillin > Mr.Satan

Its Initial Krillin we talking about , before he trained with Roshi.

Krillin could knock out a tiger , I doubt Mr.Satan can do that..

Not to mention , there is not even ki involved here..
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Jan 15 2013, 08:26 PM
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Jan 15 2013, 08:19 PM
Okay so Goku> Goku no tail> Krillen. Since Goku is 20 with his Tail I'll assume 8 or 9 without his tail and then Krillen is 7 or 8.

That means that unless Hercule is 6 you don't have to be 10 to Tank bullets. Maybe the fact that Goku and Krillen are better at Ki is why they can tank bullets then but I don't think during DB it is do to PL.

Lowest Hercule would be is 9.
Krillin > Mr.Satan

Its Initial Krillin we talking about , before he trained with Roshi.

Krillin could knock out a tiger , I doubt Mr.Satan can do that..

Not to mention , there is not even ki involved here..
Because DB PL's are screwed up. Goku and Krillen being at 10 during DB are greater than a person in DBZ at 10 due to the intoduction of PL's.

DB is about what you could do as a super human/martial arts master

DBZ is about who has the better battle since and higher power level.

AT wrote DBZ with PL's in mind he didn't do that when he was writing DB. For Hercule to considered the World Strongest man he has to be better than boxers,wrestlers, MMA fighters and other Martial arts masters that entered the Budokais he won, with all those people is hard to believe that Hercule is a 10?

What about Videl, she's stronger than Hercule but she can't tank a bullet what is she then? You need more room then Farmer with a Shotgun to Kid Goku to place certain people.
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A powerlevel of 5 compared to a powerlevel of 7 is a huge gap for the humans.

Mr.Satan was only considered strong because there wasn't great fighters that came like in DB budokais.

If Satan is 7 , then Videl can be 8.

Panbutt a ordinair boxer , is stated by Roshi to be a master of martial arts.

He can break 19 bricks , while Satan couldn't break 10 bricks. Even the fact that it hurts so bad.
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Like I have said before I like the numbers use here and my PLs fall similar to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU2SAHArd0s

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IX87yocS4U
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Satan survived a kick from Yi Xing Long therefore he is >>> Super Vegetto at the very least.
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Jan 15 2013, 08:25 PM
LOL though goku has the affinity to utilize ki, when he tanked that bullet there wasn't ki involved in that. that was natural.
Which makes Satan even more *****ing weak.
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Jan 15 2013, 09:31 PM
Satan survived a kick from Yi Xing Long therefore he is >>> Super Vegetto at the very least.
I think Mr.Satan should be equal to SSJ4 Gogeta , according to my calculations.
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