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Vegeta stronger then Goku?
Topic Started: Jan 11 2013, 06:59 AM (2,050 Views)
calivsak
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Im starting to think that Vegeta was very clearly stronger then Goku at multiple points such as the Super Majin Vegeta 2 vs SSJ2 Goku fight etc. but to get back to the topic i think that Vegeta was stronger but Goku however just had unbreaking duribility and Vegeta could never get through that. but in raw strength, Vegeta wins, hands down imoo
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Didn't Goku told Vegeta that he could've turned SSJ3 during his fight, but didn't choose too because it would be unfair?
"You know you can't win! You can't destroy what I really am! Even if you manage to kill this body, someone even stronger would surface and take my place! Not one death will go unaccounted for, not one!"
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Vegeta was only clearly stronger than Goku two times

When he turned great ape

When he came out of the H.chamber first, which only lasted less than 24 hours

Other than that were almost equal or Goku was clearly stronger.
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He was stronger after training for the androids too IIRC.
Edited by Crashbreaka, Jan 11 2013, 07:55 AM.
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Vegeta was stronger when they first met, as Goku has to use kaioken x3 and x4 to get an advantage

Vegeta was stronger than Gokus kaioken limits when he became a great ape, thus him crushing his body

Vegeta arriving on Namek was stronger than Goku getting out the hospital

Vegeta post Recoome zenkai is stronger than Goku at the Ginyu Force.

Vegeta at 19 and Gero is stronger than even healthy Goku after 3 years training, and both Gohan and Piccolo admit it. ASSJ Vegeta is way stronger

Vegeta has passed Goku by many times
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Professor Gohan
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He just couldn't beat Kakarot how he truly wanted and be satisfied.
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EnessDBZ
Jan 11 2013, 07:01 AM
Didn't Goku told Vegeta that he could've turned SSJ3 during his fight, but didn't choose too because it would be unfair?
Goku didn't actually tell Vegeta . Vegeta saw it all from the afterlife - then tore in to Goku for holding back in the first place.
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instances of Vegeta being stronger than Goku

-When they first met and fought, at the end of the Saiyan saga
-When they fought androids 19 & 20
-After Vegeta's first time in the RoSaT

Any other time, Goku was superior
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I know some people will disagree with me

But I don't care. If they were equal at any point , I have:

Vegeta > Goku.

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Jan 11 2013, 04:32 PM
instances of Vegeta being stronger than Goku

-When they first met and fought, at the end of the Saiyan saga
-When they fought androids 19 & 20
-After Vegeta's first time in the RoSaT

Any other time, Goku was superior
These are the only times I have Vegeta stronger.
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Kblo247
Jan 11 2013, 07:53 AM
Vegeta was stronger when they first met, as Goku has to use kaioken x3 and x4 to get an advantage

Vegeta was stronger than Gokus kaioken limits when he became a great ape, thus him crushing his body

Vegeta arriving on Namek was stronger than Goku getting out the hospital

Vegeta post Recoome zenkai is stronger than Goku at the Ginyu Force.

Vegeta at 19 and Gero is stronger than even healthy Goku after 3 years training, and both Gohan and Piccolo admit it. ASSJ Vegeta is way stronger

Vegeta has passed Goku by many times
I agree with this,
but a lot of you will disagree, but i place ssj2 majin vegeta above ssj2 Goku purely because vegeta was dominating the fight obviously goku was strogner wiht his ssj3 but im talking about just ssj2

thats just what i think, if you disagree thats fine
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He had one or two more hits in the manga than Goku, but that's it. You're probably thinking about the extensive filler in the anime, in which Vegeta did do a lot more damage.
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Jan 11 2013, 07:13 PM
He had one or two more hits in the manga than Goku, but that's it. You're probably thinking about the extensive filler in the anime, in which Vegeta did do a lot more damage.
Actually in the manga both Goku and Vegeta hit each other the same amount of times (It's not much at all though since we see very little of the fight).
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Jan 11 2013, 07:18 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 11 2013, 07:13 PM
He had one or two more hits in the manga than Goku, but that's it. You're probably thinking about the extensive filler in the anime, in which Vegeta did do a lot more damage.
Actually in the manga both Goku and Vegeta hit each other the same amount of times (It's not much at all though since we see very little of the fight).
-Goku blocks a kick.
-Goku blocks a punch.
-Vegeta blocks a punch.
-They counter their knee shots with each other's knees.
-Vegeta lands a headbutt.
-I can't tell if Goku lands that kick directly after or if Vegeta simply jumped out of the way.
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-Vegeta lands a punch.
-Goku lands a punch.
-They block each other and then do that fast fighting stuff.

End fight.

If you think Goku landed that one kick, then yeah, they had equal hits. If not, Vegeta landed one more. Not much of a fight. :(
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They went through that whole conflict with each other and Babidi just to have a fight like that? Wow, I feel like that was a waste of time and power that could go towards Buu in a good way for them.
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