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Topic Started: Jan 10 2013, 04:33 AM (12,733 Views)
Cal
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Jan 10 2013, 06:18 AM
As long as there are different points of view, there's always something to debate. Even if two people come to the same conclusion the way they do so could be completely different. Plus if we get a topic that noboy seems to disagree on, it probably wasn't worth debating in the first place. This tournament I think is a way for peple to express their view points and in the end even if one person "wins" the debate, the opposing person may give good evidence to support their cause in some way. And those points they gave could be very insightful on later discussions.

In the end, it's not a "I win you lose" kind of thing, it's about the information each person puts in and that could help us in later debates and discussions when involving these topics.

Someone might give a really interesting point that could make people re-think or re-view their own points.
Yea, picking the same side of a debate you've always argued for, for years and arguing it again with the only difference being the term, 'debate' being in the topic title is sure to bring enlightenment to all who see it.

What's the point though? Everything you just explained can already be accomplished by just looking at rehashed threads from the past ten years.

There's a difference in the best dbz debater, and the most knowledgeable dbz fan. This is about the second of the two even if people don't realize it. And, that's fine too, but like I said it's a whatever kind of thing for me.

Good luck everyone & I think might of convinced Kyouka to host.
Edited by Cal, Jan 10 2013, 06:26 AM.


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Jan 10 2013, 06:25 AM
& I think might of convinced Kyouka to host.
y must i repeat mahself. might have* :=]:

I'll wait to see if anyone else who stumbles upon this topic is willing to do it.
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I would like to join
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EMIYA
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Actually I had an idea. Instead of making this into a strictly tournament setting (Where opponents get knocked out) why don't we try this? We're paired up and a topic is given to each group. These topics are discussed and debated through each group. Until either both sides come to a conclusion or it goes on for a set amount of pages. (Don't want the debates to go on for too long)

Then...we have a seperate topic for each debate topic and that's where we, the other people discuss what we read and how its effected our view points. It's a nice way to see two different points of views being debated and then having a discussion on that debate. Keeping it strictly tournament based is going to lead to bias and in the end, the people who get knocked is because of that bias.

I can bet that the majority of people believe Gohan was only an SSj against Dabura, I know some people believe otherwise but the majority are of the SSj range. Therefore you're going to get terrible bias with a topic such as that unless someone presents such irrefutable evidence that its impossible to deny.
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Forget about the fact that Gohan was using SSj2 against Dabura! I have a better topic...

This will BLOW your mind...
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Im in.
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Jan 10 2013, 06:45 AM
Actually I had an idea. Instead of making this into a strictly tournament setting (Where opponents get knocked out) why don't we try this? We're paired up and a topic is given to each group. These topics are discussed and debated through each group. Until either both sides come to a conclusion or it goes on for a set amount of pages. (Don't want the debates to go on for too long)

Then...we have a seperate topic for each debate topic and that's where we, the other people discuss what we read and how its effected our view points. It's a nice way to see two different points of views being debated and then having a discussion on that debate. Keeping it strictly tournament based is going to lead to bias and in the end, the people who get knocked is because of that bias.

I can bet that the majority of people believe Gohan was only an SSj against Dabura, I know some people believe otherwise but the majority are of the SSj range. Therefore you're going to get terrible bias with a topic such as that unless someone presents such irrefutable evidence that its impossible to deny.
i kno wher u got diz from... xD

So, doing this, it'd be more of 'winning' a single debate, but not a whole tourney?

Edit: Not exactly a 'winner', not necessarily that, but whichever side is most plausible.
Edited by Kyouks, Jan 10 2013, 06:55 AM.
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This seems like it could be fun. I'll join in too! :D
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Plz add me in the list
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"I am the bone of my sword."

I got it from the whole "Dabura vs Gohan" debate Grid and whoever his opponent was in Shinden. It was clear that when we voted while we might agree that the "opponent" gave some interesting points, we were automatically biased to believing a certain viewpoint. The exact same thing I can almost guarantee will happen here if we keep it strictly tournament setting (knocking people out each round) the votes are in the end going to be baised and that's really terrible.

That's why I suggested a discussion afterwards for each topic and as I mentioned it's not about who wins, it's about the informoration each side gives which gives us, the readers a new insight on the topic that we may or may not have looked into before even if our overall conclusion for the topic remains the same.
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Alright, I was more or less thinking something along that line. In any case, there's no need for judges if that's how it goes down, unless the 2 debaters want to know who 'won' just for fun or something.

Anyways, now we should just wait for someone to volunteer as host..

Progo what's the deadline for signing up?
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List of topics so far are on the first page--in a spoiler.
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Jan 10 2013, 07:02 AM
Alright, I was more or less thinking something along that line. In any case, there's no need for judges if that's how it goes down, unless the 2 debaters want to know who 'won' just for fun or something.

Anyways, now we should just wait for someone to volunteer as host..

Progo what's the deadline for signing up?
I'm not sure when the deadline is. I left that up to the host, but I'm not even sure if we have one or not.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

I don't know if you'll have this problem but you might want judges just to overlook the debates and make sure nobody's giving completely incorrect points that the other side isn't catching on or something.
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Jan 10 2013, 07:05 AM
I don't know if you'll have this problem but you might want judges just to overlook the debates and make sure nobody's giving completely incorrect points that the other side isn't catching on or something.
So a fact checker?
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