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Topic Started: Jan 10 2013, 04:33 AM (12,717 Views)
Professor Gohan
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I'll probably get started up tomorrow. But, is there any possible way I can get pointed somewhere for sources for Holding back vs. Suppressing?
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^You bought the manga, didn't you?

What exactly will you debate in terms of holding back and suppressing? Which one is better? What determines the difference?
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Professor Gohan
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Yep.

But, I had the differences in mind. I don't know what's best to debate about it though.
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What 'side' are you on? Seeing as how this is a tourney, there's gotta be some sort of opposition. The type of differences that set the two apart?
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Yeah, I think that'd work. For right now, I think I have a pretty good idea on what both are, so I'm coming up with some for why I think they're different.
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Perhaps there are some instances where one of you believes a character was suppressing, whereas the other believes s/he was only holding back?
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Supressing vs Holding Back honestly sounds like it would be an extremely difficult topic IMO. It's something you have to really base on your interpreations I think.

For example to me, Supressing is the actual case of holding back your ki and it's something that you can easily find. However holding back is a different story as its not something that's made as obvious. For example, we can assume that the Cell Jrs are holding back against the likes of the humans, but are they suppressed as well?

IMO holding back would be the lack of putting in the full amount of effort.

Ex. Freeza powers up to 100% but then only uses one hand to fight Goku. He's not "suppressed" but he is "Holding back" I would find it a very difficult topic realy to debate and if you do do it I'll be interested in seeing what you two bring up.
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@PV: That could work too. We'll have to see what he's thinking when he gets on. Either one sounds good to me.

@Bro: Yes, I agree that it's a difficult one, and truthfully, I'm still trying to figure this one out. But, like you said, seeing what we both can come up for a difficult topic like this could be interesting. I'm not promising top notch performance though.
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It isn't too difficult so long as you cherry-pick the easier instances to use for the topic. Even then, it does require quite a bit of interpretation, though I think both Progo and Connor are quite capable.
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Professor Gohan
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I'm going to see what's up with Connor about a topic change.

Just wanted to throw that out there.
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Wait, he wants a topic change or will you suggest one?
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I suggested one. I'm honestly not feeling the one we have now, because I know what's up with Suppression; but I'm not too familiar with Holding Back. I PMed him already to ask if he agree; and if yes, which other one he agrees on.
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What did you have in mind? Curious.
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Professor Gohan
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I'm feeling one of these..

21st Budokai Power chain for a example

Humans in the 23rd Budokai (How they stock up against Piccolo Daimao)

GT Base Goku's Strength

The placement of Fat Janemba, Super Janemba, Fat Buu, Super Buu, etc. (Might fall under that movie 12 category kind of thing)
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I'd love to be in it, but just put me where it would be most convenient. :)
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