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| SSJ | Jan 5 2013, 07:48 PM Post #1 |
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Kyouks don't comment ![]() Multipliers SSJ 50x, 10x(Android +) SSJ Gr2: 1.5x SSJ SSJ Gr3: 3x SSJ SSJ 2: 4x SSJ Saiyan Saga Vs Raditz Goku(weights): 334 Goku(no weight): 416 Kamehameha: 924 Piccolo(weighted): 325 Piccolo(no weight): 408 Makankosappo 1st: 1330 Makankosappo 2nd: 1440 Gohan(calm): 1 Gohan(angry): 710 Gohan(rage burst): 1307 Raditz: 1200 Raditz Full Power: 1300 Vs Nappa Saibamen: 1200 Yamcha: 1475 Krillin: 1500 Tien: 1600 Tien One Arm: 1000 (kikoho): 2500 Chiaotzu: 950 Self Destruct: 2400 Gohan: 1000 (angry): 2300 Masenko: 2800 Piccolo(suppressed): 1650 Piccolo(FP): 2200 Nappa(initial): 4000 Nappa(FP): 7500 Goku: 8050 Vs Vegeta Vegeta: 18 000 Galick Gun: 24 000 Vegeta (Post Moon Ball): 12 000 Oozaru: 120 000 Vegeta(Weakened): 3000 and declining Goku(suppressed): 5000 Goku(FP): 8050 Kaioken: 16 100 Kaioken x3: 24 150 Kaioken x4: 32 200 Spirit Bomb: 200 000 Weak Spirit Bomb: 10 000 Goku(very weak): 35 Gohan: 1200 Oozaru: 12 000 Namek Vs Cui Vegeta: 24 000 Cui: 18 000 Vs Dodoria Vegeta: 24 000 Dodoria: 20 000 Vs Zarbon (1st) Vegeta: 24 000 Zarbon: 21 500 Transformed: 28 400 Vs Zarbon (2nd) Vegeta: 29 000 Zarbon: 23 000 Transformed: 27 000 Vs Ginyu Force Gohan(post Guru): 15 000 and rising Krillin(post Guru): 13 000 and rising Guldo: 10 000 Recoome: 40 000 Jeice: 42 000 Burter: 42 000 Goku( vs Jeice +Burter): Bursts of 60 000 Freeza(suppressed): 250 000 Nail: 42 000 FP Blast: 60 000 Vs Ginyu Goku(FP): 90 000 Kaioken: 180 000 Ginyu(suppressed): 75 000 Ginyu(FP): 120 000 In Goku: 23 000 Used to Body: 35 000 Gohan: 40 000 Krillin: 35 000 Vegeta: 250 000 Jeice: 42 000 Vs 1st Freeza Freeza(FP): 530 000 Vegeta: 500 000 Gohan: 250 000 Krillin: 200 000 Vs 2nd Freeza Freeza(Initial): 1 060 000 First Power Up: 1 300 000 Second Power Up: 1 600 000 Vegeta: 530 000 Piccolo(weights): 1 100 000 Piccolo(no weights): 1 650 000 Gohan: 275 000 Enraged: 1 000 000 Krillin: 210 000 Vs 3rd Freeza Freeza: 2 500 000 Piccolo: 1 650 000 Gohan: 900 000 Enraged Masenko: 2 200 000 Vs 4th Freeza Freeza(initial): 5 000 000 Freeza(25 %): 70 000 000 Freeza(50 %): 140 000 000 Frieza (FP): 280 000 000 Vegeta: 2 750 000 Goku: 6 000 000 Kaioken x10: 60 000 000 Kaioken x20: 120 000 000 Super Saiyan(initial): 260 000 000 Super Saiyan: 300 000 000 Android Saga Vs Mecha Freeza Freeza(suppressed): 100 000 000 Freeza(Hypothetical FP): 305 000 000 King Cold: 170 000 000 Trunks(suppressed): 5 Trunks: 7 000 000 Super Saiyan: 350 000 000 Vegeta: 3 000 000 Piccolo: 2 000 000 Gohan: 1 500 000 Krillin: 250 000 Yamcha: 260 000 Tien: 300 000 Goku: 8 000 000 Super Saiyan: 400 000 000 Dragon Ball Z Special 3: The History of Trunks Trunks: 700 000 SSJ: 35 000 000 Gohan: 6 200 000 SSJ: 310 000 000 Android 17: 750 000 000 Android 18: 700 000 000 Post 3 Years Training Vs 19 + 20 Goku: 70 000 000 Super Saiyan: 700 000 000 Sick(initial): 600 000 000 Sick(drained energy): 300 000 000 Android 19(Pre Absorptions): 300 000 000 Android 19: Post Absorptions: 375 000 000 Vegeta: 75 000 000 Super Saiyan: 750 000 000 Android 20: 320 000 000 Android 20(Post Vegeta Blast): 390 000 000 Android 20(Post Piccolo): 420 000 000 Piccolo(weights): 300 000 000 Piccolo(no weights): 450 000 000 Gohan: 55 000 000 Krillin: 20 000 000 Tien: 30 000 000 Yamcha: 10 000 000 Vs Android 18 Vegeta: 75 000 000 Super Saiyan: 750 000 000 Trunks: 61 500 000 Super Saiyan: 615 000 000 Piccolo: 400 000 000 Tien: 30 000 000 Krillin: 20 000 000 Android 18: 950 000 000 Vs Imperfect Cell Kamiccolo: 800 000 000 Imperfect Cell: 800 000 000 Vs 17 Piccolo: 1 000 000 000 Light Grenade: 2 500 000 000 Android 17: 1 000 000 000 Imperfect Cell(Humans Absorbed): 3 000 000 000 Android 16: 2 900 000 000 Vs Semi Perfect Cell Android 16: 2 900 000 000 Android 18: 950 000 000 Tien: 30 000 000 Tri Beam: 6 000 000 000 Semi Cell: 7 000 000 000 Semi Cell (FP): 11 500 000 000 Vegeta: 1 100 000 000 Super Saiyan: 11 000 000 000 Gr 2: 15 500 000 000 Trunks: 1 000 000 000 Super Saiyan: 10 000 000 000 Gr 2: 15 000 000 000 Vs Perfect Cell Perfect Cell(heavily suppressed): 14 000 000 000 More Serious: 35 000 000 000 Vegeta: 1 100 000 000 Super Saiyan: 11 000 000 000 Gr 2: 15 500 000 000 Final Flash: 60 000 000 000 Trunks: 1 000 000 000 Super Saiyan: 10 000 000 000 Gr 2: 15 000 000 000 Gr 3: 30 000 000 000 Cell Games Vs Cell Goku: 9 000 000 000 Super Saiyan: 90 000 000 000 Instant Kamehameha: 250 000 000 000 Drained: 50 000 000 000 Perfect Cell(suppressed): 100 000 000 000 Damaged from KHH: 80 000 000 000 Cell Junior: 75 000 000 000 Vegeta: 7 000 000 000 Super Saiyan: 70 000 000 000 Final Flash: 150 000 000 000 Trunks: 6 500 000 000 Super Saiyan: 65 000 000 000 Piccolo: 45 000 000 000 Goku(Drained): 40 000 000 000 Gohan: 15 000 000 000 Super Saiyan: 150 000 000 000 Super Saiyan 2: 600 000 000 000 One Arm: 240 000 000 000 Kamehameha: 1 000 000 000 000 Rage Addition: 1 500 000 000 000 Perfect Cell(less suppressed): 160 000 000 000 Perfect Cell(FP): 250 000 000 000 Super Perfect Cell: 550 000 000 000 Kamehameha: 1 100 000 000 000 Edited by SSJ, Jan 5 2013, 07:49 PM.
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| + Kyouks | Jan 5 2013, 08:34 PM Post #2 |
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wut
![]() Why would the 2nd be stronger than the 1st? 1300 seems high considering the the Saibamen rival him, and Tien beating the Saibamen as easily as he did was (IIRC) proof of him being higher than Raditz. LOWER. Yamcha would've insta-pwned if he was this high. Initial Nappa seems pretty high considering how badly he got burned by Piccolo's blast, which should be under the Masenko. Where's Initial Vegeta yo. Take into account that Goku was prolly weakened a bit by the time he fired his KHH. Zarbon shouldn't be any lower than 22,000 Why is normal Zarbon stronger and Monster Zarbon weaker all of a sudden? Wut? 15,000 seems a little high considering that he was only stated to be over 10,000. Guldo is 10,000, yet he's considered pathetic power-wise by two fighters barely over 10,000 themselves? I don't recall Ginyu ever getting used to Goku's body. Gohan's way too high, as is Krillin, I think 30,000 or so should cover their advantage. Why's Vegeta as high as 250,000 already? Makes no sense when considering that when Jeice punched him, he pushed him back and drew blood. Are 250,000 and 200,000 going to be help against a foe expected to be 600,000+? At least make them 300,000. This big of a power up doesn't seem necessary imo. Why'd Vegeta suddenly get stronger? Weighted Piccolo > Power up 1 Freeza. 1,000,000 is way too close to 1,060,000, considering that Freeza was barely damaged by the attack. Initial Freeza being 5,000,000 is unnecessary, the power up is likely similar to the 2nd form --> 3rd form power up. Vegeta weaker than Initial Freeza, barely stronger than 3rd form Freeza, why? Android Saga 350 over 305 is around 1.14x. Trunks vs FP Freeza is essentially supposed to go down like this- Tell me, is that possible with such a measly advantage?! SPEAK! Goku having a similar advantage over Trunks seems very odd too. These levels don't seem to correlate with the anime special...why are you even doing the anime special? Weighted Piccolo < Base Vegeta. Piccolo's advantage over 20 is puny on here, make it bigger. Both Piccolo and IPC should blow SSJ Vegeta out of the water. Light Grenade barely higher than a 2.22x amplification which Piccolo thinks is pathetic? Piccolo was roughly even with #17 even at the end of their fight, so make him slightly higher to make up for his lack of infinite stamina. Light Grenade looks way too close to IPC for that to be a tank. A power up that big for Semi Cell seems unnecessary, and it just leads to needless bloating of numbers, honestly. Having him over 2x Vegeta seems unnecessary imo, but not a huge deal I guess. Still, I'd consider lowering it. Umm, Gr3 Trunks is supposed to blow Suppressed PC out of the water. 50% MSSJ Goku > SSJGr3 Trunks, and yet everyone thinks Goku is screwed against Cell? Doesn't make sense. Doesn't seem much higher than the pathetic 2.22x.... Given the fact that both Vegeta and Trunks are hesitant to fight Cell even after the IT KHH, Tired Goku > Vegeta ~> Trunks > Tired Goku (post chi spamming). Btw, both seem way close to 100% Goku. FP PC is at a disadvantage similar to the ones you gave to the people who had their punches/kicks tanked? SSJ2 Kid Gohan can't tank FP PC's blows, make him higher. 2x amplification is smaller than the amp he was suggested to have while he was Imperfect.. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 5 2013, 08:36 PM Post #3 |
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Hmm pretty good list. But I think Yamcha shouldn't be stronger than Krillin in android saga? Imp Cell and 16 should be equal since it was stated. I think you have Piccolo too low compared to SSJ Trunks in Android saga And not to mention that Piccolo and 20's gap is pretty small since Piccolo oneshots 20 so easily. |
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| + Kyouks | Jan 5 2013, 08:41 PM Post #4 |
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Krillin > Yamcha is literally shown/stated in the androids arc. He has that, anyways, but the gaps between the humans seem way too big. Edited by Kyouks, Jan 5 2013, 08:42 PM.
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| SSJ | Jan 5 2013, 08:42 PM Post #5 |
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Kyouks I said don't comment since its the same on e as shinden lol. And thanks for the input guys |
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| Animelover5487 | Jan 5 2013, 08:45 PM Post #6 |
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@bold 1: Weighted Piccolo was confirmed to be at 322. @bold 2: Piccolo's 2nd Makankosappo wasn't confirmed to be at 1,440 in the manga aand since he already exhausted a lot of ki using one I doubt his 2nd one would be stronger. @bold 3: Yamcha should be no higher than 1,350 him and that Saibaman were even and it still was able to get up even after a direct hit from the Kamehameha. @bold 4: I dont get this one at all. Why is Zarbon's base stronger in their 2nd fight and his transformed state is weaker. @bold 5: Gohan and Krillin were only over 10,000 13k and 15k are too high. @bold 6: I dont see any reason for Guldo to be that strong. @bold 7: Used To Body? In the manga Ginyu never learned how to control Goku's body. @bold 8: Gohan and Krillin should be a little higher than that. I would put Krillin at the very least at 300k since Vegeta was so confident that they could beat a transformed Freeza. And a 2x gap is in tanking range. @bold 9: Vegeta > Initial Final Form Freeza. Vegeta was 100% confident he could beat Freeza after he transformed. @bold 10: Yamcha > Krillin? Can you atleast tell me your reasoning for this besides Krillin should be at 600k+ at this point in time. @bold 11: You only have 1.07x gap between Piccolo and Post Energy 20 that's not enough considering Piccolo stomped him with zero effort. @bold 12: Humans are too low. For them to be even a little useful they would need to be at 50% Freeza. @bold 13: Piccolo was stronger than Initial Imperfect Cell that's why he ran away because he didn't have enough power to beat him. @bold 14: Gap between Piccolo's light grenade and Humans Absorbed Imperfect Cell should be bigger Raditz who was about 1.4x stronger than Goku's Kamehameha struggled to block and was pushed back from it while he tanked it with no damage. @bold 15: SSJ Grade 3 Trunks > Surpressed Cell is a stated fact. |
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| Revious83 | Jan 5 2013, 08:51 PM Post #7 |
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Yamcha should never be above Krillin, Nappa and Raditz can't raise or lower their Powerlevel, everything else is good. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 6 2013, 12:45 AM Post #8 |
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They can. Kyouks don't comment! Get out!
Edited by Alex D. Boss, Jan 6 2013, 12:47 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Jan 6 2013, 12:59 AM Post #9 |
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Raditz can't control his power level. He can only make his attacks stronger by using more effort. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 6 2013, 01:19 AM Post #10 |
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How about Nappa? He surely can. |
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| + Kyouks | Jan 6 2013, 02:03 AM Post #11 |
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No, he can't. He just has a relaxed level and a full power level, he can't consciously suppress or adjust his level or anything like that. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 6 2013, 02:08 AM Post #12 |
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Oh , Mkay.
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| + Kyouks | Jan 6 2013, 02:13 AM Post #13 |
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Actually, he'd have more levels than that. Just can't do the suppressing thing. yeah. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 6 2013, 02:17 AM Post #14 |
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You mean he can start as initial , then can go 50% and then 100% full power? |
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| + Kyouks | Jan 6 2013, 03:36 AM Post #15 |
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Man, I don't got the specifics down boi! He can't consciously suppress down to low levels. Just powers up, relaxes. |
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