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EOZ Base Vegeta vs Good Buu
Topic Started: Jan 4 2013, 04:13 AM (2,149 Views)
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SSJ 3 Goku 100
EOZ Base Goku: 85
Base Begeta 80
Uub 30
Enraged: 90
GreyBuu 70

Yeah guess I give it to Veggiehead.
Edited by SSJ, Jan 4 2013, 05:20 AM.
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7 years of godly otherworld training -> 2x increase for Goku.

10 years of earth training -> 400x increase?

Yeah uh no. Good Boo stomps!
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doesn't have to make sense

its just plot , look at other various increases in the series

gohan
gotenks
veggeto
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Jan 4 2013, 05:12 AM
SSJ 3 Goku 100
EOZ Base Goku: 85
Base Begeta 80
Uub 30
Enraged: 90
Good Buu 70

Yeah guess I give it to Veggiehead.
If SSJ3 Goku is around Kid Buu level, who is stronger than Majin Buu, wouldn't Good Buu be a good margin weaker than that? Good Buu would be 40% Majin Buu at most IMO.
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Yah Good Boo weak.
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Popcorn

and just saying even uub -normal seems a bit high
but thats just me
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Jan 4 2013, 05:15 AM
doesn't have to make sense

its just plot , look at other various increases in the series

gohan
gotenks
veggeto
Gohan got a power-up that brought him far beyond his limits.

"Fusion is just that extreme"

"Potara is even more superior to fusion"

They make sense and are explained.
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gotenks in the htc ?

even if gohan increase was explained its still crazy hax

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Yeeeh my mistake. Meant for that to be Grey.
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Yellow_Flash
Jan 4 2013, 05:20 AM
gotenks in the htc ?

even if gohan increase was explained its still crazy hax

"Every little gain you make, results in a big gain for Gotenks" - Piccolo.

It's explained and completely plausible given what we know about Gohan and his potential.
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made up quote much

like i said its plot nothing needs to make sense

but everyone's entilited to there own opinion
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Not made up silly. Every plot gain makes sense. This one? Nope.
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Skip ahead ten years to the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai, and you have Goku telling Vegeta that someone incredibly strong would be entering the tournament. At the tournament grounds, when Mister Satan and Goku were talking, the Saiyan noted that someone besides them and Good Boo could win. Soon after, Piccolo asserted that Goku's fight with Oob (Kid Boo's reincarnation) would be the one of note, implying any other combination of fighters would not be as important. During the fight, Goku teased Oob and caused him to become enraged, bringing forth enough power for Gohan to excitedly wonder who the human was that could possibly be that powerful (which would thus mean the other humans, Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, and Chaozu were not that strong). Goku and Oob engaged in a nigh-even fight, and at some point, Goku realized Oob did not know how to use his power, and so ended the match, but not before stating that the human was as amazing as he expected.

If you recall, Goku openly told Vegeta that someone incredible would be in the tournament, and later told Mister Satan that despite all of them and Boo being entered, Oob could be the one to win. On their own, Goku's statements do not mean much, but together, they assert that Goku's expectations were for Oob to be stronger than Good Boo at the very least - these expectations were stated to have been met. Goku fought this person in his regular form in an even battle. If Oob was too powerful for Goku to handle in his regular form, he would have transformed to even the playing field, yet he chose to end the fight and leave to train with the human. While it is an understandable assumption that Oob, while enraged, possessed the same amount of power as Kid Boo, being his reincarnation and all, it is not so firmly backed up in the text, and thus, I will not be assuming that position. If the Saiyans were allowed to transform at the tournament, Goku's expectations would be that someone stronger than his Super Saiyan 3 form would be fighting, and he decided to engage this person in his regular form. It would also mean that Good Boo is in the same league as his Super Saiyan 3 power, as he indicated that Boo had a chance of winning as well as them, yet ten years prior, Good Boo was absolutely no match for Skinny Boo, who was only a large portion of Fat Boo's power, who was somewhat weaker than Super Saiyan 3 Goku. The assumption would then imply Good Boo trained and became a lot stronger, or the Z Fighters did not grow in power by much at all, or both simultaneously. This is why at this point, I am assuming with good reason that the "no Super Saiyan" rule from the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai was still in effect for the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai as well.

But I digress. At the very least, Base Goku and Oob were noticeably stronger than Good Boo, who was majorly stronger than Super Saiyan 2 Goku prior to the ten year timeskip.

Oob (enraged) = Base Goku (EOZ) > Good Boo > Super Saiyan 2 Goku (10yrs prior)

My thoughts.^

And...

Chapter: 480 (DBZ 286), P13.2-3
Context: after Gotenks returns from fighting Boo
Gotenks: “I got the tar beaten out of me…”
Piccolo: “Alright, your fight with Majin Boo is 1 day from now! Until then, train as much as you can! If you get even a little bit stronger, it will be more effective when you perform Fusion. Got that, you miserable little punks?!”
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KP you literally are always willing to write essay answers out :) Deicated member here.
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EoZ Goku > EoZ Vegeta > Good Boo.
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