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Give me your human powerlevels
Topic Started: Jan 4 2013, 12:53 AM (1,835 Views)
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Jan 4 2013, 02:51 AM
Saiya-jin Saga


Trunks Saga



Nowadays I don't think about where they stand on Cell & Boo Saga, although there is no reason for them to gain much considering they all trained by themselves and with no gravity chamber to speed up the process. The only one with a sparring partner was Tenshinhan and it's implied Chiaotzu was just so weak compared, he wasn't much of a sparring partner.
You don't need a sparring partner since Piccolo trained by himself , Tien has the capabilities to do it by himself too.
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Jan 4 2013, 03:01 AM
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Jan 4 2013, 02:51 AM
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Trunks Saga



Nowadays I don't think about where they stand on Cell & Boo Saga, although there is no reason for them to gain much considering they all trained by themselves and with no gravity chamber to speed up the process. The only one with a sparring partner was Tenshinhan and it's implied Chiaotzu was just so weak compared, he wasn't much of a sparring partner.



There isn't no reason but for the plot. The humans are implied to be close to Freeza since they showed up to fight the androids after feeling SSJ Goku and Trunks's ki.

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Jan 4 2013, 02:36 AM
Saiyan Saga:

Tien: 1830
Krillin: 1770
Yamcha: 1480
Yajirobe: 910
Chiaotzu: 610
Those are the Daizenshuu's levels there wrong about alot of stuff such as having Yamcha at 1,480 is too high considering he could barely beat the Saibaman who's at 1,200.
I don't really use the Daizenshuu to be honest. I only find the stuff applicable if it doesn't contradict what is seen in the manga, and for this saga (other than Nappa and possibly Piccolo, Chiaotzu, Yajoribe and Mr Popo) I don't see it being contradictory. In reference to Yamcha's battle with the Saibamen, there are two factors that I think are applicable to the "barely beat" part. The first is that this Saibaman was trying a lot harder than the one who had fought previously (against Tien). The second was that it wasn't that Yamcha barely beat him, it was that Yamcha was, well, having fun fighting it. That and I thought he beat it pretty handily. The only fault he had was that he underestimated its durability. The Saibaman knew it couldn't defeat Yamcha and knew what Vegeta was going to do to it, so it aimed for a draw (since it was going to die anyways).
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Frieza Saga

Tenshinhan 175.000
Krillin 170.000
Yamcha 120.000
Chiaotzu 60.000

Trunks Saga

Tenshinhan 550.000
Krillin 520.000
Yamcha 350.000
Chiaotzu 180.000

Android Saga

Tenshinhan 65.000.000
Krillin 50.000.000
Yamcha 28.000.000
Chiaotzu 6.000.000

Buu Saga

Tenshinhan 450.000.000
Chiaotzu 90.000.000
Krillin 67.000.000
Yamcha 23.000.000

EOZ

Tenshinhan 1.000.000.000
Chiaotzu 180.000.000
Krillin 60.000.000
Yamcha 20.000.000
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Freeza Saga:

Krillin - 400,000
Tenshinhan - 275,000
Yamcha - 225,000
Chiautzo - 200,000
Yajirobe- 1,940

Post-Freeza Saga:

Tenshinhan - 550,000
Krillin - 500,000
Yamcha - 450,000
Chiautzo - 400,000
Yajirobe - 3,880

Trunks Saga:

Tenshinhan - 1,100,000
Krillin - 1,000,000
Yamcha - 900,000
Chiautzo - 800,000
Yajirobe - 7,760

Android Saga:

Tenshinhan - 11,000,000
Krillin - 10,000,000
Yamcha - 9,000,000
Chiautzo - 8,000,000
Yajirobe - 15,520

Boo Saga:

Tenshinhan - 133,100,000
Krillin - 121,000,000
Yamcha - 108,900,000
Chiautzo - 96,800,000
Yajirobe - 108,640

End of Z:

Tenshinhan - 1,331,000,000
Krillin - 1,210,000,000
Yamcha - 1,089,000,000
Chiautzo - 968,000,000
Yajirobe - 1,086,400

Beginning of GT:

Tenshinhan - 133,100,000,000
Krillin - 121,000,000,000
Yamcha - 108,900,000,000
Chiautzo - 96,800,000,000
Yajirobe - 10,864,000

Baby Saga:

Tenshinhan - 266,200,000,000
Krillin - 242,000,000,000
Yamcha - 217,800,000,000
Chiautzo - 193,600,000,000
Yajirobe - 21,728,000

Super 17 Saga:

Tenshinhan - 532,400,000,000
Krillin - 484,000,000,000
Yamcha - 435,600,000,000
Chiautzo - 387,200,000,000
Yajirobe - 43,456,000

Shadow Dragons Saga:

Tenshinhan - 1,064,800,000,000
Krillin - 968,000,000,000
Yamcha - 871,200,000,000
Chiautzo - 774,400,000,000
Yajirobe - 86,912,000
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Jan 4 2013, 08:43 AM
Frieza Saga

Tenshinhan 175.000
Krillin 170.000
Yamcha 120.000
Chiaotzu 60.000

Trunks Saga

Tenshinhan 550.000
Krillin 520.000
Yamcha 350.000
Chiaotzu 180.000

Android Saga

Tenshinhan 65.000.000
Krillin 50.000.000
Yamcha 28.000.000
Chiaotzu 6.000.000

Buu Saga

Tenshinhan 450.000.000
Chiaotzu 90.000.000
Krillin 67.000.000
Yamcha 23.000.000

EOZ

Tenshinhan 1.000.000.000
Chiaotzu 180.000.000
Krillin 60.000.000
Yamcha 20.000.000
Frieza saga - Krillin > Tien , his chi was rising and surpasses Tiens in Frieza arc. Krillin should be 300K.

Trunks saga - They could be higher like near a million , but its good.

Android saga - The gap between Tien and Krillin is too big , I have Krillin a little bit higher than Tien in Android arc. Yamcha should be closer to them IMO.

Buu saga/Eoz - Tien is too high compared to Krillin , Chiautzu> Krillin? What did Chiautzu do after Android arc? He can't increase that much all he does is watching Tien's training. Krillin should increase in Buu arc as we saw him train with 18 a short time atleast.
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Jan 4 2013, 03:09 PM
Frieza saga - Krillin > Tien , his chi was rising and surpasses Tiens in Frieza arc. Krillin should be 300K.

Trunks saga - They could be higher like near a million , but its good.

Android saga - The gap between Tien and Krillin is too big , I have Krillin a little bit higher than Tien in Android arc. Yamcha should be closer to them IMO.

Buu saga/Eoz - Tien is too high compared to Krillin , Chiautzu> Krillin? What did Chiautzu do after Android arc? He can't increase that much all he does is watching Tien's training. Krillin should increase in Buu arc as we saw him train with 18 a short time atleast.
Frieza saga, Trunk Saga- ii think Tien covered the gap by training

Android Saga- I have Tien is stronger, but i'm not sure, could also be equal

Buu Saga/EOZ- I'm pretty certain, Tien is on another level than Krillin, and i don't think Chiaotzu just sat around and did nothing.
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Yeah but I don't think Chiautzu could increase that much , since he isn't even relevant after Trunks saga.

Yamcha is close to the Earthlings in Android saga since he trained like them too for the androids.

Krillin's chi was rising still , so I think Tien is close to Krillin.

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Yamcha did barely beat a Saibaman. It wasn't an easy victory, if you could really it that.

And the others all had to use considerable effort to one-shot theirs as well, so I honestly wouldn't put them very far from Yamcha at this point. I wouldn't even put Piccolo above 2,200ish anymore.
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Jan 4 2013, 01:04 AM
Freeza Saga;

Krillin : 200,000
Tenshinhan : 50,000 - 60,000
Yamcha : 30,000

Trunks Saga :

Krillin : 200,000
Tenshinhan : 160,000
Yamcha : 100,000

Android Saga;

Krillin : 160,000,000
Tenshinhan :150,000,000
Yamcha : 140,000,000
do you have the humans stronger than base saiyans at android saga?
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Jan 4 2013, 04:59 PM
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Jan 4 2013, 01:04 AM
Freeza Saga;

Krillin : 200,000
Tenshinhan : 50,000 - 60,000
Yamcha : 30,000

Trunks Saga :

Krillin : 200,000
Tenshinhan : 160,000
Yamcha : 100,000

Android Saga;

Krillin : 160,000,000
Tenshinhan :150,000,000
Yamcha : 140,000,000
do you have the humans stronger than base saiyans at android saga?
Humans should never be stronger than the Base Saiyans. That includes Goten and Trunks because their human halves are never relevant to the story like Gohan's.
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Jan 4 2013, 05:17 PM
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Jan 4 2013, 04:59 PM
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Jan 4 2013, 01:04 AM
Freeza Saga;

Krillin : 200,000
Tenshinhan : 50,000 - 60,000
Yamcha : 30,000

Trunks Saga :

Krillin : 200,000
Tenshinhan : 160,000
Yamcha : 100,000

Android Saga;

Krillin : 160,000,000
Tenshinhan :150,000,000
Yamcha : 140,000,000
do you have the humans stronger than base saiyans at android saga?
Humans should never be stronger than the Base Saiyans. That includes Goten and Trunks because their human halves are never relevant to the story like Gohan's.
I have three reasons why I think they surpassed base sayains

1) They appeared for the androids.
2) Tien holding of semi cell were piccolo attack did nothing to imperfect cell.
3) I believe the humans got the same boost that of piccolo "why not" ?
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1. That doesn't prove humans > Base Saiyans.

2. That's like arguing Tenshinhan is stronger than Krillin because of the Shin Kikoho. Um, Krillin doesn't have the attack, so they're not comparable. Same situation here.

3. You can't give a character a random boost just because - you aren't the author. There has to be a plot reason for it. If your boost for the humans ends up relatively the same as Piccolo's coincidentally, OK, but don't do it on purpose just because you think "why not." That's illogical and lazy.
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Jan 4 2013, 05:45 PM
1. That doesn't prove humans > Base Saiyans.

2. That's like arguing Tenshinhan is stronger than Krillin because of the Shin Kikoho. Um, Krillin doesn't have the attack, so they're not comparable. Same situation here.

3. You can't give a character a random boost just because - you aren't the author. There has to be a plot reason for it. If your boost for the humans ends up relatively the same as Piccolo's coincidentally, OK, but don't do it on purpose just because you think "why not." That's illogical and lazy.
I don’t see Tien attack having a ridiculous multiplier I would believe more that Tien power skyrocketed and surpassed base sayians. In namek krillin got a huge boost for no practical reason but he had it to be relevant and not to be completely dwarfed by other characters I think its the same thing for android.
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frieza:
krillin: 375,000
tien: 36,600
yamcha: 29,600
chiaotzu: 12,200

trunks
krillin: 1,500,000
tien: 311,100
yamcha: 189,440
chiaotzu: 103,700

android
krillin: 96,000,000
tien: 38,887,500
yamcha: 12,124,160
chiaotzu: 12,962,500

buu
krillin: 192,000,000
tien: 1,244,400,000
yamcha: 8,486,912
chiaotzu: 15,000,000

@frieza. krillin had to be strong enough to help against not only 1st form frieza, but also hypothetical 2nd form frieza (~650,000). the others are just 20x their saiyan saga PLs, which is the same increase goku and piccolo got from king kai's training.

@trunks. i don't remember any implication that anyone didn't train between frieza and trunks (except gohan, of course). tien and chiaotzu get faster gains because they spar (i think tien trains using multiform as well, which is why chiaotzu is locked at 1/3 tien's power from saiyan saga to android saga, since he's fighting 4 opponents somewhat weaker than himself, rather than 1 opponent much stronger than himself), and yamcha, tien, and chiaotzu gained faster than krillin because he lost 4 months of training time.

@androids. tien and chiaotzu continue to get accelerated gains up to here, when chiaotzu quits fighting. although yamcha is somewhat weaker than chiaotzu, he is stronger than the amount of power frieza showed on earth, and so (naively) thinks he can contribute, whereas chiaotzu compared himself to ssj goku and trunks, and so stayed home. plus yamcha has always been a bit cocky.

@ buu. krillin, yamcha, and chiaotzu retired after the cell games (chiaotzu not stated, but he didn't fight anything in this saga to demonstrate any massive gains, so i figure he probably didn't do much besides stay in shape). krillin's training with #18 was enough to get back into shape, and significantly increased his power. tien got 2 good years of training in after the cell games, and then his body peaked, so he got the same reduced gains after that that goku and vegeta got (x2 per 5 years, give or take).
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everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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Jan 4 2013, 06:02 PM
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Jan 4 2013, 05:45 PM
1. That doesn't prove humans > Base Saiyans.

2. That's like arguing Tenshinhan is stronger than Krillin because of the Shin Kikoho. Um, Krillin doesn't have the attack, so they're not comparable. Same situation here.

3. You can't give a character a random boost just because - you aren't the author. There has to be a plot reason for it. If your boost for the humans ends up relatively the same as Piccolo's coincidentally, OK, but don't do it on purpose just because you think "why not." That's illogical and lazy.
I don’t see Tien attack having a ridiculous multiplier I would believe more that Tien power skyrocketed and surpassed base sayians. In namek krillin got a huge boost for no practical reason but he had it to be relevant and not to be completely dwarfed by other characters I think its the same thing for android.
Krillin got a boost to keep up with Gohan and Vegeta, who were getting zenkais. That is plot requirement. Tenshinhan getting a random boost because you say so, hm, tell me where the plot required that because you're just sounding like a pretty big fanboy with no logic right now.
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