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Super Baby Vegeta 1 vs Vegetto SSJ 2
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How do you know? It follows Anime Wise.
Nah, it doesn't. And there are even anime guidebooks that call Boohan the Mightiest Boo.
The same gudebooks which say Mystic Gohan has power surpassing Super Saiyan 2. GT was made by Toei so it follows the Anime. Besides, the Anime flat out states Kid Buu is the strongest Buu, Gohan-Boo <<< Kid Buu. The GT Files imply GT Base Gohan > Mystic Gohan.
COH? Anyway, nobody surpasses Super Vegetto until Super Vegeta-Baby. That's a stated fact. How you arrive there is your own business, but that's the conclusion you need to get to.
Yeah, it's me. On topic, GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo > SSJ Vegito is stated so I don't know how only Baby is > SSJ Vegito. GT is just that haxed. This is what I get.
Regarding the Ultimate Gohan guidebook situation, I like this explanation: - Quote:
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This probably is best taken just about Gohan himself, given that Super Saiyan 2 was the upper limit of his power before. "He's way stronger now than he was as a Super Saiyan 2 before."
As for the rest of your post, I still don't agree. Even the anime contradicts itself, and the anime guidebooks that accompany it: http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8434181&t=8345059
You are showing me the guidebooks which I showed Cocoman a year ago. Yeah, the Anime contradicts itself since it copies everything from the Manga and also Toei's filers where there are various Toei Haxes. It doesn't matter. We know Anime Pure Boo > Gohan-Boo and also stronger than SSjin Vegetto as Vegetto struggled vs Gohan-Boo who was accessing some of Pure Boo's powers. GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo, no? GT Base Goku > SSjin Vegito is implied.
That just makes an entirely new mess, then. If Goku is stronger than SSj Vegetto to start with, then gets even stronger during his battles in space, and doesn't make any mention of Vegeta-Baby being the strongest Ki he'd ever felt but does for Super Vegeta-Baby, would that not mean SSj3 Goku > Vegeta-Baby? Also, why would he bother bringing up Majin Boo in regards to Rild? Why wouldn't he get the "strongest Ki ever felt" treatment? He was a villain just like Baby.
Goku indirectly said Rildo is the strongest ki he had ever felt. Pure Boo was the strongest ki before, this why Goku says "he is stronger than Boo" in reference to Pure Boo. This why Baby is later the greatest ki he had ever felt. Thanks for proving my point. GT Files say Gohan had gotten stronger since Z and was training. GT Base Gohan should be in par with Gotenks-Boo IMO. Base Goku manhandled GT SSJ Gohan. That shows how GT Base Goku >> Anime Pure Boo >> SSjin Vegetto. Why didn't normal Vegeta-Baby get the comment? Why did only his powered up form get that honor? He was a good deal stronger than SSj3 Goku, after all, who was leagues ahead of Rild.
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SBV 2 >> SSJ3 Goku >>SSJ Goku > Metal General Rild > Base Goku ; IMO.
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Eat da turds mayne, eat 'em!
Veggiewon.
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Nah, it doesn't. And there are even anime guidebooks that call Boohan the Mightiest Boo.
The same gudebooks which say Mystic Gohan has power surpassing Super Saiyan 2. GT was made by Toei so it follows the Anime. Besides, the Anime flat out states Kid Buu is the strongest Buu, Gohan-Boo <<< Kid Buu. The GT Files imply GT Base Gohan > Mystic Gohan.
COH? Anyway, nobody surpasses Super Vegetto until Super Vegeta-Baby. That's a stated fact. How you arrive there is your own business, but that's the conclusion you need to get to.
Yeah, it's me. On topic, GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo > SSJ Vegito is stated so I don't know how only Baby is > SSJ Vegito. GT is just that haxed. This is what I get.
Regarding the Ultimate Gohan guidebook situation, I like this explanation: - Quote:
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This probably is best taken just about Gohan himself, given that Super Saiyan 2 was the upper limit of his power before. "He's way stronger now than he was as a Super Saiyan 2 before."
As for the rest of your post, I still don't agree. Even the anime contradicts itself, and the anime guidebooks that accompany it: http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8434181&t=8345059
You are showing me the guidebooks which I showed Cocoman a year ago. Yeah, the Anime contradicts itself since it copies everything from the Manga and also Toei's filers where there are various Toei Haxes. It doesn't matter. We know Anime Pure Boo > Gohan-Boo and also stronger than SSjin Vegetto as Vegetto struggled vs Gohan-Boo who was accessing some of Pure Boo's powers. GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo, no? GT Base Goku > SSjin Vegito is implied.
That just makes an entirely new mess, then. If Goku is stronger than SSj Vegetto to start with, then gets even stronger during his battles in space, and doesn't make any mention of Vegeta-Baby being the strongest Ki he'd ever felt but does for Super Vegeta-Baby, would that not mean SSj3 Goku > Vegeta-Baby? Also, why would he bother bringing up Majin Boo in regards to Rild? Why wouldn't he get the "strongest Ki ever felt" treatment? He was a villain just like Baby.
Goku indirectly said Rildo is the strongest ki he had ever felt. Pure Boo was the strongest ki before, this why Goku says "he is stronger than Boo" in reference to Pure Boo. This why Baby is later the greatest ki he had ever felt. Thanks for proving my point. GT Files say Gohan had gotten stronger since Z and was training. GT Base Gohan should be in par with Gotenks-Boo IMO. Base Goku manhandled GT SSJ Gohan. That shows how GT Base Goku >> Anime Pure Boo >> SSjin Vegetto.
Why didn't normal Vegeta-Baby get the comment? Why did only his powered up form get that honor? He was a good deal stronger than SSj3 Goku, after all, who was leagues ahead of Rild. Perhaps it was to build up drama for his super power up. Regardless, we know Anime Pure Boo > Gohan-Boo. We know GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo so SSjin Vegetto is surely leagues below of at least GT SSjin Goku.
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Nah, you're still wrong.
GT Base Goku isn't stronger than Boohan at this point and he's ~ Base Vegetto.
You see why GT logic isn't Z anime logic?
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The same gudebooks which say Mystic Gohan has power surpassing Super Saiyan 2. GT was made by Toei so it follows the Anime. Besides, the Anime flat out states Kid Buu is the strongest Buu, Gohan-Boo <<< Kid Buu. The GT Files imply GT Base Gohan > Mystic Gohan.
COH? Anyway, nobody surpasses Super Vegetto until Super Vegeta-Baby. That's a stated fact. How you arrive there is your own business, but that's the conclusion you need to get to.
Yeah, it's me. On topic, GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo > SSJ Vegito is stated so I don't know how only Baby is > SSJ Vegito. GT is just that haxed. This is what I get.
Regarding the Ultimate Gohan guidebook situation, I like this explanation: - Quote:
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This probably is best taken just about Gohan himself, given that Super Saiyan 2 was the upper limit of his power before. "He's way stronger now than he was as a Super Saiyan 2 before."
As for the rest of your post, I still don't agree. Even the anime contradicts itself, and the anime guidebooks that accompany it: http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8434181&t=8345059
You are showing me the guidebooks which I showed Cocoman a year ago. Yeah, the Anime contradicts itself since it copies everything from the Manga and also Toei's filers where there are various Toei Haxes. It doesn't matter. We know Anime Pure Boo > Gohan-Boo and also stronger than SSjin Vegetto as Vegetto struggled vs Gohan-Boo who was accessing some of Pure Boo's powers. GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo, no? GT Base Goku > SSjin Vegito is implied.
That just makes an entirely new mess, then. If Goku is stronger than SSj Vegetto to start with, then gets even stronger during his battles in space, and doesn't make any mention of Vegeta-Baby being the strongest Ki he'd ever felt but does for Super Vegeta-Baby, would that not mean SSj3 Goku > Vegeta-Baby? Also, why would he bother bringing up Majin Boo in regards to Rild? Why wouldn't he get the "strongest Ki ever felt" treatment? He was a villain just like Baby.
Goku indirectly said Rildo is the strongest ki he had ever felt. Pure Boo was the strongest ki before, this why Goku says "he is stronger than Boo" in reference to Pure Boo. This why Baby is later the greatest ki he had ever felt. Thanks for proving my point. GT Files say Gohan had gotten stronger since Z and was training. GT Base Gohan should be in par with Gotenks-Boo IMO. Base Goku manhandled GT SSJ Gohan. That shows how GT Base Goku >> Anime Pure Boo >> SSjin Vegetto.
Why didn't normal Vegeta-Baby get the comment? Why did only his powered up form get that honor? He was a good deal stronger than SSj3 Goku, after all, who was leagues ahead of Rild.
Perhaps it was to build up drama for his super power up. Regardless, we know Anime Pure Boo > Gohan-Boo. We know GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo so SSjin Vegetto is surely leagues below of at least GT SSjin Goku. I have a question for you, sir. What do you think about the EOZ power chain?
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No one surpasses SSjin Vegetto 'til Super Bebi Veggie 1 comes around, like it or not, otherwise the whole strongest chi line would be totally outta place.
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COH? Anyway, nobody surpasses Super Vegetto until Super Vegeta-Baby. That's a stated fact. How you arrive there is your own business, but that's the conclusion you need to get to.
Yeah, it's me. On topic, GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo > SSJ Vegito is stated so I don't know how only Baby is > SSJ Vegito. GT is just that haxed. This is what I get.
Regarding the Ultimate Gohan guidebook situation, I like this explanation: - Quote:
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This probably is best taken just about Gohan himself, given that Super Saiyan 2 was the upper limit of his power before. "He's way stronger now than he was as a Super Saiyan 2 before."
As for the rest of your post, I still don't agree. Even the anime contradicts itself, and the anime guidebooks that accompany it: http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8434181&t=8345059
You are showing me the guidebooks which I showed Cocoman a year ago. Yeah, the Anime contradicts itself since it copies everything from the Manga and also Toei's filers where there are various Toei Haxes. It doesn't matter. We know Anime Pure Boo > Gohan-Boo and also stronger than SSjin Vegetto as Vegetto struggled vs Gohan-Boo who was accessing some of Pure Boo's powers. GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo, no? GT Base Goku > SSjin Vegito is implied.
That just makes an entirely new mess, then. If Goku is stronger than SSj Vegetto to start with, then gets even stronger during his battles in space, and doesn't make any mention of Vegeta-Baby being the strongest Ki he'd ever felt but does for Super Vegeta-Baby, would that not mean SSj3 Goku > Vegeta-Baby? Also, why would he bother bringing up Majin Boo in regards to Rild? Why wouldn't he get the "strongest Ki ever felt" treatment? He was a villain just like Baby.
Goku indirectly said Rildo is the strongest ki he had ever felt. Pure Boo was the strongest ki before, this why Goku says "he is stronger than Boo" in reference to Pure Boo. This why Baby is later the greatest ki he had ever felt. Thanks for proving my point. GT Files say Gohan had gotten stronger since Z and was training. GT Base Gohan should be in par with Gotenks-Boo IMO. Base Goku manhandled GT SSJ Gohan. That shows how GT Base Goku >> Anime Pure Boo >> SSjin Vegetto.
Why didn't normal Vegeta-Baby get the comment? Why did only his powered up form get that honor? He was a good deal stronger than SSj3 Goku, after all, who was leagues ahead of Rild.
Perhaps it was to build up drama for his super power up. Regardless, we know Anime Pure Boo > Gohan-Boo. We know GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo so SSjin Vegetto is surely leagues below of at least GT SSjin Goku.
I have a question for you, sir. What do you think about the EOZ power chain? You know what I think, no?
Ultimate Gohan > SSjin 3 Gotenks > SSjin 2 Gotenks > SSjin Gotenks (Post) > Base Gotenks (Post) > SSjin Gotenks (Expected) > SSjin Gotenks (Pre) > SSjin 3 Goku
EOZ Base Goku is in par with Pure Boo IMO but still nowhere near Ultimate Gohan. The gap was just too massive in the Boo Saga. Goten and Trunks are not much stronger as stated in the Daizenshuu and implied by the Manga. Vegeta is Son Goku's fellow strongest which means his rival. SSjin 3 Goku can still be barely SSjin Gotenks (Post) IMO.
Overall it's: Son Gohan > Son Goku > Vegeta > Oob > Son Pan > Good Boo
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Nah, you're still wrong.
GT Base Goku isn't stronger than Boohan at this point and he's ~ Base Vegetto.
You see why GT logic isn't Z anime logic? Anime and GT belong to Toei so it's the same logic whether you like it or not.
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Yeah, it's me. On topic, GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo > SSJ Vegito is stated so I don't know how only Baby is > SSJ Vegito. GT is just that haxed. This is what I get.
Regarding the Ultimate Gohan guidebook situation, I like this explanation: - Quote:
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This probably is best taken just about Gohan himself, given that Super Saiyan 2 was the upper limit of his power before. "He's way stronger now than he was as a Super Saiyan 2 before."
As for the rest of your post, I still don't agree. Even the anime contradicts itself, and the anime guidebooks that accompany it: http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8434181&t=8345059
You are showing me the guidebooks which I showed Cocoman a year ago. Yeah, the Anime contradicts itself since it copies everything from the Manga and also Toei's filers where there are various Toei Haxes. It doesn't matter. We know Anime Pure Boo > Gohan-Boo and also stronger than SSjin Vegetto as Vegetto struggled vs Gohan-Boo who was accessing some of Pure Boo's powers. GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo, no? GT Base Goku > SSjin Vegito is implied.
That just makes an entirely new mess, then. If Goku is stronger than SSj Vegetto to start with, then gets even stronger during his battles in space, and doesn't make any mention of Vegeta-Baby being the strongest Ki he'd ever felt but does for Super Vegeta-Baby, would that not mean SSj3 Goku > Vegeta-Baby? Also, why would he bother bringing up Majin Boo in regards to Rild? Why wouldn't he get the "strongest Ki ever felt" treatment? He was a villain just like Baby.
Goku indirectly said Rildo is the strongest ki he had ever felt. Pure Boo was the strongest ki before, this why Goku says "he is stronger than Boo" in reference to Pure Boo. This why Baby is later the greatest ki he had ever felt. Thanks for proving my point. GT Files say Gohan had gotten stronger since Z and was training. GT Base Gohan should be in par with Gotenks-Boo IMO. Base Goku manhandled GT SSJ Gohan. That shows how GT Base Goku >> Anime Pure Boo >> SSjin Vegetto.
Why didn't normal Vegeta-Baby get the comment? Why did only his powered up form get that honor? He was a good deal stronger than SSj3 Goku, after all, who was leagues ahead of Rild.
Perhaps it was to build up drama for his super power up. Regardless, we know Anime Pure Boo > Gohan-Boo. We know GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo so SSjin Vegetto is surely leagues below of at least GT SSjin Goku.
I have a question for you, sir. What do you think about the EOZ power chain?
You know what I think, no? Ultimate Gohan > SSjin 3 Gotenks > SSjin 2 Gotenks > SSjin Gotenks (Post) > Base Gotenks (Post) > SSjin Gotenks (Expected) > SSjin Gotenks (Pre) > SSjin 3 Goku EOZ Base Goku is in par with Pure Boo IMO but still nowhere near Ultimate Gohan. The gap was just too massive in the Boo Saga. Goten and Trunks are not much stronger as stated in the Daizenshuu and implied by the Manga. Vegeta is Son Goku's fellow strongest which means his rival. SSjin 3 Goku can still be barely SSjin Gotenks (Post) IMO. Overall it's: Son Gohan > Son Goku > Vegeta > Oob > Son Pan > Good Boo I meant in accordance to the anime, silly.
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Regarding the Ultimate Gohan guidebook situation, I like this explanation: - Quote:
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This probably is best taken just about Gohan himself, given that Super Saiyan 2 was the upper limit of his power before. "He's way stronger now than he was as a Super Saiyan 2 before."
As for the rest of your post, I still don't agree. Even the anime contradicts itself, and the anime guidebooks that accompany it: http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8434181&t=8345059
You are showing me the guidebooks which I showed Cocoman a year ago. Yeah, the Anime contradicts itself since it copies everything from the Manga and also Toei's filers where there are various Toei Haxes. It doesn't matter. We know Anime Pure Boo > Gohan-Boo and also stronger than SSjin Vegetto as Vegetto struggled vs Gohan-Boo who was accessing some of Pure Boo's powers. GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo, no? GT Base Goku > SSjin Vegito is implied.
That just makes an entirely new mess, then. If Goku is stronger than SSj Vegetto to start with, then gets even stronger during his battles in space, and doesn't make any mention of Vegeta-Baby being the strongest Ki he'd ever felt but does for Super Vegeta-Baby, would that not mean SSj3 Goku > Vegeta-Baby? Also, why would he bother bringing up Majin Boo in regards to Rild? Why wouldn't he get the "strongest Ki ever felt" treatment? He was a villain just like Baby.
Goku indirectly said Rildo is the strongest ki he had ever felt. Pure Boo was the strongest ki before, this why Goku says "he is stronger than Boo" in reference to Pure Boo. This why Baby is later the greatest ki he had ever felt. Thanks for proving my point. GT Files say Gohan had gotten stronger since Z and was training. GT Base Gohan should be in par with Gotenks-Boo IMO. Base Goku manhandled GT SSJ Gohan. That shows how GT Base Goku >> Anime Pure Boo >> SSjin Vegetto.
Why didn't normal Vegeta-Baby get the comment? Why did only his powered up form get that honor? He was a good deal stronger than SSj3 Goku, after all, who was leagues ahead of Rild.
Perhaps it was to build up drama for his super power up. Regardless, we know Anime Pure Boo > Gohan-Boo. We know GT Base Goku > Anime Pure Boo so SSjin Vegetto is surely leagues below of at least GT SSjin Goku.
I have a question for you, sir. What do you think about the EOZ power chain?
You know what I think, no? Ultimate Gohan > SSjin 3 Gotenks > SSjin 2 Gotenks > SSjin Gotenks (Post) > Base Gotenks (Post) > SSjin Gotenks (Expected) > SSjin Gotenks (Pre) > SSjin 3 Goku EOZ Base Goku is in par with Pure Boo IMO but still nowhere near Ultimate Gohan. The gap was just too massive in the Boo Saga. Goten and Trunks are not much stronger as stated in the Daizenshuu and implied by the Manga. Vegeta is Son Goku's fellow strongest which means his rival. SSjin 3 Goku can still be barely SSjin Gotenks (Post) IMO. Overall it's: Son Gohan > Son Goku > Vegeta > Oob > Son Pan > Good Boo
I meant in accordance to the anime, silly. Dunno what do you mean. Be specific.
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You're wrong, no matter what, lmao.
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You're wrong, no matter what, lmao.
And still has the facts in my side. You have no evidence. GT Base Vegito >> Anime Pure Boo >> SSjin Vegetto is implied. GT Base Gohan being > Ultimate Gohan supports my claim. GT Base Goku stomped both SSjin Goten and SSjin Gohan at the same time. GT Base Goku would one shot SSjin Vegio. Case closed.
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You've been debunked and you're wrong, again.
Case Closed.
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