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Majin Vegeta Gauntlet
Topic Started: Dec 29 2012, 11:03 PM (973 Views)
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"I am the bone of my sword."

The only thing we know is that you have to have SSj2 Goku and Movie 10 Broly close enough so that the ending makes sense.

We already know that Movie 10 LSSJ Broly>>>SSj2 Movie 10 Gohan.

We know that SSJ Broly>>>SSJ Goten

LSSJ Broly>>>SSj2 Gohan & SSj Goten, without a doubt. Without Goku adding in his power, there was no way they'd have been able to pull off the win. It's also a reason why I put Gohan as his Budokai self. If you put him as strong as his kid self, much less Post-Zeta Sword like some people do there's no way in hell Goku, Gohan or Goten SSj2 or not would've done sh*t to Broly.

Considering the power gap then would've been Broly>>>movie 10 Gohan>>SSj2 Goku>>>>SSj Goten. And if Gohan couldn't do anything, what are two vastly weakeer characters going to do?

I usually have Movie 10 Broly with a slight advantage over SSj2 Goku (And by default with this topic a slight advantage over SSj2 Majin Vegeta.) Seperately Broly could beat all three of them and he can beat all of them together as Super Saiyans. It's once Goku goes SSJ2 that it pushes their level from being crap to Broly to pretty much outright annihliating him.
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Dec 29 2012, 11:33 PM
Old Kai doesn't include Kibitoshin when talking about the greatest masters in the universe, not to mention that Kibitoshin doesn't fight Kid Boo. His weak power is even elaborated on by Old Kai. Yet he's relevant to an SSJ2? I think not.
He was pretty confident about fighting Buu after fusing, which was a stark contrast to his attitude before; if Kaioshin is considering a direct fight with Buu, then he'd have to be pretty damn close to him, at least as close as Vegeta is. He's a Potara fusion of two very powerful fighters (Kaioshin is a lot stronger than Piccolo and we know Piccolo can hold off Cell Jrs) and we can assume Kibito is at least half as strong as Frieza.

As for him not fighting Kid Buu, he'd simply be too out of place. Kaioshin/Kibito were never really fighters to begin with and having him fight Kid Buu would just break up the rhythm.

Isn't it generally agreed that he's as strong as Good Buu anyway?
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LSSJ M10 Broly - lose badly
Kid Gohan SSJ2 - win
Base Gotenks Pre - lose , but not easily
KibitoShin - win easily
Uub EOZ - this is not enarged Uub so Vegeta stomps
Good Buu (after releasing Grey Buu) - lose badly
Post Z sword SSJ2 Gohan - gets stomped
20 Cell jrs - stomps
SSJ2 Future trunks (hypothetical) - stomps
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If Libitoshin isn't considered stronger than Vegeta, he isn't. It's as simple as that. He wanted to help against Gotenks-Boo. To think he's at least half of that Boo's power is absurd, especially when it's contradicted right after.

I'm not even going to get into the Piccolo Kaioshin debate.
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Dec 30 2012, 01:50 AM
If Libitoshin isn't considered stronger than Vegeta, he isn't. It's as simple as that. He wanted to help against Gotenks-Boo. To think he's at least half of that Boo's power is absurd, especially when it's contradicted right after.

I'm not even going to get into the Piccolo Kaioshin debate.
Please rephrase I didn't get a word you said.
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Loses to Broly, stomps Kid Gohan because that was pretty much stated, stomps base Gotenks, stomps KibitoShin, if Uub has time to unlock his true power through rage then he'd probably win, but other than that Vegeta wins this, I mean goku fought on par with him in his base form.

Loses to Good Buu, now VS Gohan would be interesting, I think Gohan has this one down, Cell Juniors stomped, Trunks loses too. Nice thread though OP, made me think a couple of times.
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Dec 30 2012, 01:43 AM
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Dec 29 2012, 11:33 PM
Old Kai doesn't include Kibitoshin when talking about the greatest masters in the universe, not to mention that Kibitoshin doesn't fight Kid Boo. His weak power is even elaborated on by Old Kai. Yet he's relevant to an SSJ2? I think not.
He was pretty confident about fighting Buu after fusing, which was a stark contrast to his attitude before; if Kaioshin is considering a direct fight with Buu, then he'd have to be pretty damn close to him, at least as close as Vegeta is. He's a Potara fusion of two very powerful fighters (Kaioshin is a lot stronger than Piccolo and we know Piccolo can hold off Cell Jrs) and we can assume Kibito is at least half as strong as Frieza.

As for him not fighting Kid Buu, he'd simply be too out of place. Kaioshin/Kibito were never really fighters to begin with and having him fight Kid Buu would just break up the rhythm.

Isn't it generally agreed that he's as strong as Good Buu anyway?
It was generally agreed based on his confidence, as far as I can remember, but like I said, right afterwards Old Kai shoots the idea down, saying he was never anything special (and thus, not anything special now). Old Kai also doesn't include him when talking about the 3 greatest masters in the universe, but he includes Goku and Vegeta (the third one presumably being Gohan, Gotenks is excluded as he isn't a permanent entity).

The confidence could place him above SSJ2 Teen Gohan, maybe. But not above SSJ2 Vegeta.
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Dec 30 2012, 01:50 AM
If Libitoshin isn't considered stronger than Vegeta, he isn't. It's as simple as that. He wanted to help against Gotenks-Boo. To think he's at least half of that Boo's power is absurd, especially when it's contradicted right after.

I'm not even going to get into the Piccolo Kaioshin debate.
Obviously he's not nearly as strong as Buutenks, I didn't say that, but based on how he felt, he has to be withing striking distance of Fat Buu, which would IMO put him equal to or slightly above Vegeta. Especially when he has instantaneous movement and nearly infinite healing power.
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Dec 30 2012, 05:39 AM
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Dec 30 2012, 01:50 AM
If Libitoshin isn't considered stronger than Vegeta, he isn't. It's as simple as that. He wanted to help against Gotenks-Boo. To think he's at least half of that Boo's power is absurd, especially when it's contradicted right after.

I'm not even going to get into the Piccolo Kaioshin debate.
Obviously he's not nearly as strong as Buutenks, I didn't say that, but based on how he felt, he has to be withing striking distance of Fat Buu, which would IMO put him equal to or slightly above Vegeta. Especially when he has instantaneous movement and nearly infinite healing power.
Not according to his elder. He's weaker than Vegeta.
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