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Who is the strongest GT character that Buu Saga SSJ Vegito can beat?
Topic Started: Dec 28 2012, 05:35 PM (1,644 Views)
DHZ
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that discuss vegito power since thats the measuring stick. And its not wrong i believe. happy for you to prove it wrong
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"I am the bone of my sword."

It's already outright stated Super Baby Vegeta II (I believe that's the one) was the so called "Strongest Ki Goku ever felt" which would logically put SSJ Vegetto there also so basically SSJ Vegetto isn't getting past there.
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DHZ
Dec 29 2012, 12:03 AM
that discuss vegito power since thats the measuring stick. And its not wrong i believe. happy for you to prove it wrong
Episode 29
Time: around 15m55s
Context: After Vegeta claims to be the greatest power
Goku: "It's true! I've never felt a Ki as awesome as this! This really may turn out to be the last sight I take with me into the next world..."

Super Vegeta-Baby 1 > SSj Vegetto (the strongest ki Goku had ever felt)

And yes, it is wrong. Base Goku was already on Good Boo's level at the EOZ. 5 more years training with Kid Boo's reincarnation, and then usurping his previous Super Saiyan power in Base during his space battles, and he's still having trouble with someone on Good Boo's level? What, did Goku get weaker somehow?
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Base Goku EOZ is not Good Buu level.

Anway Vegito can handle Super 17 pre 10xKHH and Bebi Vegeta.
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Base Goku EOZ is not Good Buu level.

Goku says Oob is strong and might win the tournament, knowing Boo is entering.
Goku fights him and says he's as strong as he expected.

Base Goku is at least on par with Good Boo.
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Anway Vegito can handle Super 17 pre 10xKHH and Bebi Vegeta.

Vegeta kept the power Baby absorbed, and was still no match for the initial power of S17.
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In my opinion Base Goku is already ahead of Good Buu.

SSJ 3 Goku- 100
Good Buu - 50
Base Goku EOZ- 75

Maybe something like that.
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Dec 29 2012, 02:32 AM
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Base Goku EOZ is not Good Buu level.

Goku says Oob is strong and might win the tournament, knowing Boo is entering.
Goku fights him and says he's as strong as he expected.

Base Goku is at least on par with Good Boo.
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Anway Vegito can handle Super 17 pre 10xKHH and Bebi Vegeta.

Vegeta kept the power Baby absorbed, and was still no match for the initial power of S17.
1. Uub has the power to get to Kid Buu level but he doesn't if he did Goku would have needed SSJ. Goku says Goten should be able to beat Buu if he didn't slack off, this can mean that the base saiyans can beat Good Buu I think it means MSSJs can beat Good Buu.


2. Vegeta didn't keep the power up from Baby. MSSJ Goku> SSJ2 Vegeta is shown in the S17 saga where's just a saga ago SSJ2 Bebi Vegeta> SSJ3 Goku.
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Goku said his power level is great then boos, trunks and pan notice it. it must be good buu there talking about
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It should be Kid Buu's power or Super Buu's. Stronger than Buuhan means Goku is stronger than base Vegito.
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doubts its kid buu, trunks wouldnt know who buutenks or buuhan or kid buu is. if he wanted to pointed out the bad buu he would of said majin buu but he just said buu. so it must be good buu
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DHZ
Dec 29 2012, 04:08 AM
doubts its kid buu, trunks wouldnt know who buutenks or buuhan or kid buu is. if he wanted to pointed out the bad buu he would of said majin buu but he just said buu. so it must be good buu
He does say Majin Buu and Trunks does know Kid Buu, SSJ3 tire can be felt from Supreme Kai's planet.

Goku battles Kid Buu for the fate of the universe therefore I think that's the Buu Goku would mention.
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I think he beats Baby Vegeta (First Form) and loses horribly to the rest.
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1. Uub has the power to get to Kid Buu level but he doesn't if he did Goku would have needed SSJ. Goku says Goten should be able to beat Buu if he didn't slack off, this can mean that the base saiyans can beat Good Buu I think it means MSSJs can beat Good Buu.

That's circular logic. "If Oob was as strong as Kid Boo Goku would need Super Saiyan so Oob isn't as strong as Kid Boo because Goku would need Super Saiyan."

Now where are you building your argument from, actually? Because I built mine from Goku's statements.
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2. Vegeta didn't keep the power up from Baby. MSSJ Goku> SSJ2 Vegeta is shown in the S17 saga where's just a saga ago SSJ2 Bebi Vegeta> SSJ3 Goku.

Again, more circular logic. The fact that Vegeta is the strongest of the group after Goku is proof enough.
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Dec 29 2012, 04:33 AM
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1. Uub has the power to get to Kid Buu level but he doesn't if he did Goku would have needed SSJ. Goku says Goten should be able to beat Buu if he didn't slack off, this can mean that the base saiyans can beat Good Buu I think it means MSSJs can beat Good Buu.

That's circular logic. "If Oob was as strong as Kid Boo Goku would need Super Saiyan so Oob isn't as strong as Kid Boo because Goku would need Super Saiyan."

Now where are you building your argument from, actually? Because I built mine from Goku's statements.
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2. Vegeta didn't keep the power up from Baby. MSSJ Goku> SSJ2 Vegeta is shown in the S17 saga where's just a saga ago SSJ2 Bebi Vegeta> SSJ3 Goku.

Again, more circular logic. The fact that Vegeta is the strongest of the group after Goku is proof enough.
1. Goku had no plans for himself or Uub to win the tournament, do you have a quote where Goku says he can beat Good Buu normal because without that were taking a shot in the dark. All Goku would have to be is 3x his Buu self to handle Good Buu as a MSSJ.

2. Vegeta is not a whole lot stronger than Gohan and as a SSJ2 is weaker than MSSJ Goku that alone is enough to prove he lost the Baby power up. SSJ2 Baby Vegeta is strong enough that SSJ3 Goku only had a small chance against him. Goku uses MSSJ to test Super 17 and does better than Vegeta did it's only when Goku starts fighting that he goes to SSJ4 because Super 17 has no idea what the form is and 17 has taken energy from Goku already.

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1. Maybe 3x for you, but bringing in random calculations isn't helping your case; it could be 30x or 300x for me or someone else. What we know is Goku said Oob could possibly win the tournament, despite Boo and everyone else aside from Gohan, Piccolo, and the humans being entered. Goku later says Oob is exactly what he expected.

What did he expect?

Someone strong enough to win the tournament.

And Goku fought him in Base.

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Vegeta is not a whole lot stronger than Gohan

Proof?
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and as a SSJ2 is weaker than MSSJ Goku that alone is enough to prove he lost the Baby power up.

Ja, I'm not seeing how that proves anything, especially when Gohan got a lot stronger in a few months between Baby and S17, meaning he either kept the power Baby gave him as well or got a big training boost.
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SSJ2 Baby Vegeta is strong enough that SSJ3 Goku only had a small chance against him.

What is SSj2 Baby Vegeta?
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Goku uses MSSJ to test Super 17 and does better than Vegeta did it's only when Goku starts fighting that he goes to SSJ4 because Super 17 has no idea what the form is and 17 has taken energy from Goku already.

Despite the fact that S17 says Goku isn't a threat to him and he can see through all of his moves after being punched.
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