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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 26 2012, 06:24 PM (1,635 Views) | |
| + Kyouks | Dec 26 2012, 08:36 PM Post #16 |
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Blocked punches man, something Krillin didn't do against a weaker Goku. Krillin was on the ground defenseless as well, Yamcha just got his tooth knocked out. Nothing there even remotely suggests Krillin > Yamcha. |
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| Animelover5487 | Dec 26 2012, 08:39 PM Post #17 |
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Where was it ever stated Goku got weaker without his tail? How do you know how many seconds there fights lasted manga time is different from real life time? Like I said before they got owned at the same time the fights started in one page and ended in one page. Also about this blocking punches agrgument the scuffle was off screen we dont know what happened in that fight if Krillin blocked his punches or not so saying he didn't is making assumptions. Edited by Animelover5487, Dec 26 2012, 08:41 PM.
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| + Kyouks | Dec 26 2012, 08:43 PM Post #18 |
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We see a cloud of dust and Krillin on the ground, I'm not gonna assume that fight lasted more than a few seconds just because it's a manga. Chapter: 40, P12.4, 13.1 Goku: “Heheh! I knew that I’m in better condition when I’ve got my tail!” *He smashes wall* Goku: “Alright! I’m in tip-top shape, tip-top shape!” Yamcha blocked punches, Krillin didn't. Krillin's on the ground defenseless, Yamcha could've kept going but didn't because he's too worried about his looks. I'm also not going to assume Krillin blocked anything when there's no reason to do so. Goku effortlessly handling Krillin even before the dust scuffle implies he's on a completely different level anyways. Edited by Kyouks, Dec 26 2012, 08:55 PM.
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| Alex D. Boss | Dec 26 2012, 08:46 PM Post #19 |
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But did Krillin blocked the punches of an weaker Goku? No. Did Yamcha blocked an stronger Goku's punches? Yes. Chapter: 40, P12.4, 13.1 Goku: “Heheh! I knew that I’m in better condition when I’ve got my tail!” *He smashes wall* Goku: “Alright! I’m in tip-top shape, tip-top shape!” |
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| Kblo247 | Dec 26 2012, 08:47 PM Post #20 |
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Krillin. Goku didn't have a tail but he had journeyed, been exposed to a moon, fought Yamcha, and did the Kamehameha all before he met Krillin. Krillin initially is stronger than initial Goku and initial Yamcha. Yeah I said it |
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| Animelover5487 | Dec 26 2012, 08:56 PM Post #21 |
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I agree with Kblo247. How do we know Goku didn't get stronger from battle experience? It's been shown several times in the manga that fights can improve your battle skils. Such as when Krillin said Red Ribbon Army Goku was stronger than the Goku at the tournament. Also when Piccolo went from 322 to 329 after fighting Raditz. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Dec 26 2012, 08:57 PM Post #22 |
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Lol , we used this quote at the samn time
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| + Kyouks | Dec 26 2012, 08:58 PM Post #23 |
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This is exactly why. In that case, it's suggested. In this case, it's not. Seriously, making this many assumptions at this point is just reaching, no offense. |
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| Animelover5487 | Dec 26 2012, 09:12 PM Post #24 |
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You made the assumption that Krillin didn't block any of Goku's hits so why I cant I make any? Besides this assumption has some truth behind it and is well based unlike yours. |
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| + Kyouks | Dec 26 2012, 09:14 PM Post #25 |
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What? Saying that someone didn't do something isn't assuming, saying that someone did do something is an assumption. Krillin's never shown to block anything, so I can conclude that he blocked nothing. Saying otherwise is making a baseless assumption, which is what you did. As I said, while your assumption has a basis, it's never once suggested in this specific case. I can easily say something like "Goku lied in the Boo Saga once, so he must've lied at other points too" using the same logic right here. It doesn't work. Edited by Kyouks, Dec 26 2012, 09:18 PM.
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Dec 26 2012, 10:52 PM Post #26 |
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Nah, Goku whooped Krillin's but to get that rock. Yamcha had a closer fight with a healthy Goku, so yeah, I still have Yamcha eating Krillin at this point. |
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| Animelover5487 | Dec 26 2012, 11:05 PM Post #27 |
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No he didn'r. He just blocked a couple of hits. And I know like Kyouka Suigetsu said that saying someone didn't do something isn't assuming but we cant be sure what actually happened in Goku and Krillin's scuffle since all we saw was a cloud of dust and than Goku having his foot on Krillin thus winning the fight. Goku didn't whoop Krillin it looked like a good fight. Like I was saying before if blocking hits makes a fight close than Goku vs King Chappa was real close. |
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Dec 26 2012, 11:06 PM Post #28 |
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To be honest with you.. My memory is a tad hazy on the fight, but I was sure of "myself" that it was close. Do you mind showing me a scan or something though? |
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| + Kyouks | Dec 26 2012, 11:09 PM Post #29 |
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^Progo Animelover, I know we didn't see what happened in the scuffle, but that's exactly why we shouldn't assume any more than necessary (Occam's Razor). I didn't see Krillin block anything, so I don't think he blocked anything. Yamcha, on the other hand, did. Yamcha was in a position to fight back but ran away when he saw he lost a tooth. Krillin was on the ground at Goku's mercy, not much he could've done at all. I'm not necessarily saying Yamcha and Goku were close, but it was closer than Krillin and Goku nonetheless. Edited by Kyouks, Dec 26 2012, 11:11 PM.
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Dec 26 2012, 11:11 PM Post #30 |
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It's not letting me see it, but what like happened, PV? |
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