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USSJ Trunks @ Cell Games vs SSJ2 Gohan @ both Gt. Saiyaman and Babidi Sagas
Topic Started: Dec 24 2012, 03:40 PM (662 Views)
calivsak
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No USSJ disadvantages for trunks
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So assuming their is no speed loss for USSJ?

I still reckon Gohan wins. I don't have him loosing so much power that he'd be USSJ tiered.

...I think....
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EMIYA
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"I am the bone of my sword."

SSJ2 Gohan (@ Budokai)>Dabura>~SSJ Gohan>Perfect Cell (Against Goku, warm up)~50% Goku>>Vegeta>Trunks

With Dabura already in the Perfect Cell range, even if it is at a lower level, SSJ2 Gohan and heck just regular SSj Adult Gohan would handle USSJ Cell Games Trunks fairly easily and I dbout there's much of a difference between Pre-Budokai and post-Budokai Gohan.

So yeah, Gohan wins.
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Holy crap I can't believe I forgot that!

Yeah Gohan stomps IMO.
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SSj2 Gohan wins. He shouldn't be weak enough to beat Trunks level IMO.
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dont forget that trunks put in another entire year in the time chamber between his fight with cell and the cell games. we never saw him fight after that except against the cell Jrs and if you read in the manga during those chapters, Trunks was the ONLY Z Fighter not visibly damaged by the cell jrs. one could assume that he just couldnt hit them
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He's also stated to be weaker than Vegeta, so your thread is incorrect from the start.
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Dec 24 2012, 08:07 PM
He's also stated to be weaker than Vegeta, so your thread is incorrect from the start.
actually not true. for a few reasons.
1: Vegeta never achived the USSJ form IN CANON (personally i think he figured it out but it was never shown or spoken, so ya)
2: once again, in canon, Vegeta never knew that Trunks achived USSJ.
3: if i remember correctly, at one point Trunks states to Piccolo that Vegeta trained him a bit in the RoSaT, and it is inferred that he learned more about battle strategies. which Vegeta was the only schooled Soldier in the Z Fighters and a Prince at that so he more then likely had a top of the line education, including battle strategies. which we all know is Gohans weak point, he never once thought about his next move until after his Kai training.
i never said Gohan was stronger then Trunks, but i would still put my money on him. btw its stated by Vegeta spacifically that Gohan lost over half his strength since he fought Cell, and unless you dont remember, Gohan didnt start fighting seriously against Cell until after he saved Vegeta and over half his power was depleted.

all in all i just think that Trunks, a guy who had just trained for 2 years in the RoSaT with Vegeta of all people, on top of the fact that he had been trained by Gohan himself so he would know a lot of his base forms and stances, could beat Gohan who, while still incredibly powerful, had just gotten out of a 7 year retirement pretty much
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calivsak
Dec 24 2012, 08:37 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Dec 24 2012, 08:07 PM
He's also stated to be weaker than Vegeta, so your thread is incorrect from the start.
actually not true. for a few reasons.
1: Vegeta never achived the USSJ form IN CANON (personally i think he figured it out but it was never shown or spoken, so ya)
2: once again, in canon, Vegeta never knew that Trunks achived USSJ.
3: if i remember correctly, at one point Trunks states to Piccolo that Vegeta trained him a bit in the RoSaT, and it is inferred that he learned more about battle strategies. which Vegeta was the only schooled Soldier in the Z Fighters and a Prince at that so he more then likely had a top of the line education, including battle strategies. which we all know is Gohans weak point, he never once thought about his next move until after his Kai training.
i never said Gohan was stronger then Trunks, but i would still put my money on him. btw its stated by Vegeta spacifically that Gohan lost over half his strength since he fought Cell, and unless you dont remember, Gohan didnt start fighting seriously against Cell until after he saved Vegeta and over half his power was depleted.
Oh man, The Fuhrer is going to tear this post apart, I won't say anymore and ruin what I'm sure The Fuher has in store for this.
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calivsak
Dec 24 2012, 08:37 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Dec 24 2012, 08:07 PM
He's also stated to be weaker than Vegeta, so your thread is incorrect from the start.
actually not true. for a few reasons.
1: Vegeta never achived the USSJ form IN CANON (personally i think he figured it out but it was never shown or spoken, so ya)
2: once again, in canon, Vegeta never knew that Trunks achived USSJ.
3: if i remember correctly, at one point Trunks states to Piccolo that Vegeta trained him a bit in the RoSaT, and it is inferred that he learned more about battle strategies. which Vegeta was the only schooled Soldier in the Z Fighters and a Prince at that so he more then likely had a top of the line education, including battle strategies. which we all know is Gohans weak point, he never once thought about his next move until after his Kai training.
i never said Gohan was stronger then Trunks, but i would still put my money on him. btw its stated by Vegeta spacifically that Gohan lost over half his strength since he fought Cell, and unless you dont remember, Gohan didnt start fighting seriously against Cell until after he saved Vegeta and over half his power was depleted.

all in all i just think that Trunks, a guy who had just trained for 2 years in the RoSaT with Vegeta of all people, on top of the fact that he had been trained by Gohan himself so he would know a lot of his base forms and stances, could beat Gohan who, while still incredibly powerful, had just gotten out of a 7 year retirement pretty much
1. Vegeta achieved it , but never used it , because he knew it would be useless , Trunks even said it , SO YA.
2. He knew , he said himself to Cell that Trunks has strong powers to do it , which was dumb of Trunks to use it.
3. Irrelevant

Trunks didn't train with Vegeta 2 years , not even 1 year actually.

Gohan Budokai stays the same Gohan as in the Cell games

SSJ2 Gohan > USSJ Trunks.
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