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Accurate Power Levels
Topic Started: Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM (11,673 Views)
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znet
Jan 13 2013, 10:51 PM
How bad is your logic? really piccolo didn't even dent imperfect cell from his attack Tien made semi cell cough out spit and you really think humans are below Base sayians. When its obvious to someone with a logical brain know base sayins couldn’t do so such a thing at that time.
I'm going to enjoy watching you get banned.

But until then, I'll have to deal with your 5th grade debating skills. You're now saying Tenshinhan is stronger than Piccolo, and completely ignoring the facts tha have been presented to you straight from the manga. You don't understand the simple concept that you can't compare two people like this because the Saiyans DON'T HAVE THE KIKOHO ATTACK.

You're only making yourself look like a tool to the rest of this section. The few people that take you somewhat seriously aren't going to for much longer if you keep this poop up, man. Stop embarrassing yourself or trying to act tough when you're clearly defeated.
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Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Jan 13 2013, 11:09 PM
znet
Jan 13 2013, 11:04 PM
and you think it should be more which is failed logic also
No, no it's not. You don't get it, do you? Tien is said to be a pesky fly, and Base Vegeta is supposed to making things interesting. That makes everything clear as day. The Kikoho has nothing, and I repeat, nothing to do with Tien's base power. There's no "limit" to what the amplifier is, so don't act like some random number that comes to your head overrides what we're shown in the manga. It doesn't.
wow one quote that says things will get interesting really proves much does it. it could mean millions of thing. Just to name a few

1) Vegeta arriving out of nowhere.
2) Android 19 getting kicked in the head.

Dr gero thought he was the one to look out for seeing how strong he was when he and Napa arrived on earth. The humans and piccolo were weak compared to those two. so Dr Gero underestimated them. but latter piccolo shows he rivals a SSJ and dominated DR Gero who is way above Base sayians and someone with a logical brain would think the androids underestimated the humans also.
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znet
Jan 13 2013, 11:28 PM
Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Jan 13 2013, 11:09 PM
znet
Jan 13 2013, 11:04 PM
and you think it should be more which is failed logic also
No, no it's not. You don't get it, do you? Tien is said to be a pesky fly, and Base Vegeta is supposed to making things interesting. That makes everything clear as day. The Kikoho has nothing, and I repeat, nothing to do with Tien's base power. There's no "limit" to what the amplifier is, so don't act like some random number that comes to your head overrides what we're shown in the manga. It doesn't.
wow one quote that says things will get interesting really proves much does it. it could mean millions of thing. Just to name a few

1) Vegeta arriving out of nowhere.
2) Android 19 getting kicked in the head.

Dr gero thought he was the one to look out for seeing how strong he was when he and Napa arrived on earth. The humans and piccolo were weak compared to those two. so Dr Gero underestimated them. but latter piccolo shows he rivals a SSJ and dominated DR Gero who is way above Base sayians and someone with a logical brain would think the androids underestimated the humans also.
I'm giggling like a schoolgirl over here because it's apparent now more than ever that you haven't read that part of the story. You're wrong on so many levels.
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Jan 13 2013, 11:27 PM
znet
Jan 13 2013, 10:51 PM
How bad is your logic? really piccolo didn't even dent imperfect cell from his attack Tien made semi cell cough out spit and you really think humans are below Base sayians. When its obvious to someone with a logical brain know base sayins couldn’t do so such a thing at that time.
I'm going to enjoy watching you get banned.

But until then, I'll have to deal with your 5th grade debating skills. You're now saying Tenshinhan is stronger than Piccolo, and completely ignoring the facts tha have been presented to you straight from the manga. You don't understand the simple concept that you can't compare two people like this because the Saiyans DON'T HAVE THE KIKOHO ATTACK.

You're only making yourself look like a tool to the rest of this section. The few people that take you somewhat seriously aren't going to for much longer if you keep this poop up, man. Stop embarrassing yourself or trying to act tough when you're clearly defeated.
1) I don't care if I get banned
2) a quote doesn't prove much.
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Wait a minute! If this guy has the most accurate power levels and he knows everything even better than Akira Toriyama, we should all agree that this list is the best. I don't know why I'm arguing here, my bad.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

My "I stopped giving a damn..." senses are tingling now. I think the seriousness of this topic is about to take a drop now. Of course I've already given my points and why having Tenshinhan over Base Saiyans make utterly no sense no matter how you look at it.
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znet
Jan 13 2013, 11:32 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 13 2013, 11:27 PM
znet
Jan 13 2013, 10:51 PM
How bad is your logic? really piccolo didn't even dent imperfect cell from his attack Tien made semi cell cough out spit and you really think humans are below Base sayians. When its obvious to someone with a logical brain know base sayins couldn’t do so such a thing at that time.
I'm going to enjoy watching you get banned.

But until then, I'll have to deal with your 5th grade debating skills. You're now saying Tenshinhan is stronger than Piccolo, and completely ignoring the facts tha have been presented to you straight from the manga. You don't understand the simple concept that you can't compare two people like this because the Saiyans DON'T HAVE THE KIKOHO ATTACK.

You're only making yourself look like a tool to the rest of this section. The few people that take you somewhat seriously aren't going to for much longer if you keep this poop up, man. Stop embarrassing yourself or trying to act tough when you're clearly defeated.
1) I don't care if I get banned
2) a quote doesn't prove much.
What then ?

Your using BS Conspiracy Theories with your Useless Worthless Statements about Humans>Saiyans.
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Brofist
Jan 13 2013, 11:43 PM
My "I stopped giving a damn..." senses are tingling now. I think the seriousness of this topic is about to take a drop now. Of course I've already given my points and why having Tenshinhan over Base Saiyans make utterly no sense no matter how you look at it.
Don't be so hasty. Znet has given a ridiculously in-depth, 100% impeccable explanation as to why the Bass Saiya-jins are weaker than Tien. I originally thought he was wrong, but he's convinced me beyond a shadow of a doubt that he knows what he's talking about. I put forth my full power and I was destroyed, and I bet he wasn't even using 1% of his power.

That is what you'd be going up against.
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I had my father, GridOne get in contact with Toriyama-sama.

His words:

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I did not intend for Tenshinhan-san to be there in the fight with Seru. But since he was there and I had written myself into a corner I used him and even gave him a suped up new attack to use.

In truth I also did not intend for Tenshinhan-san to surpass Furiza but by the Majin Boo portion of the story I guess he might have along with Kuririn.
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znet
Jan 13 2013, 11:28 PM
Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Jan 13 2013, 11:09 PM
znet
Jan 13 2013, 11:04 PM
and you think it should be more which is failed logic also
No, no it's not. You don't get it, do you? Tien is said to be a pesky fly, and Base Vegeta is supposed to making things interesting. That makes everything clear as day. The Kikoho has nothing, and I repeat, nothing to do with Tien's base power. There's no "limit" to what the amplifier is, so don't act like some random number that comes to your head overrides what we're shown in the manga. It doesn't.
wow one quote that says things will get interesting really proves much does it. it could mean millions of thing. Just to name a few

1) Vegeta arriving out of nowhere.
2) Android 19 getting kicked in the head.

Dr gero thought he was the one to look out for seeing how strong he was when he and Napa arrived on earth. The humans and piccolo were weak compared to those two. so Dr Gero underestimated them. but latter piccolo shows he rivals a SSJ and dominated DR Gero who is way above Base sayians and someone with a logical brain would think the androids underestimated the humans also.
"Someone with a logical brain"? Are you serious? What reason does one have to believe that they underestimated the humans when it is not suggested in the slightest?

You're completely disregarding the fact he calls calls them PESKY FLIES. There is a clear distinction between Vegeta and the humans. He tells #19 to eliminate the pesky flies, and says that Vegeta will make things interesting. He does not say Vegeta has already begun to make things interesting, mind you, he says Vegeta will make things interesting. Appearing out of nowhere means jacksh**.

Not only that, but you have nothing to prove that they underestimated the humans.

Krillin also arrives out of nowhere while looking for Gero, yet Gero says something like "Kururin? He can't do anything."

They "underestimated" Piccolo because he was suppressed. Prove to me, with your "logic", that the humans were suppressed. Show me a quote. Show me a scene contradicting what Gero said.

And I just saw you post somewhere else that "a quote doesn't mean much." Fail logic again. So I can go ahead and disregard whatever quote I want, because they don't mean much, right? I don't want to believe Majin Vegeta > Kid Gohan because the quote doesn't mean much and nothing backs it up. I can do that, right? Wrong.

Prove to me that the androids underestimated the humans. If you can do that, I'll concede.
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BukLau
Jan 13 2013, 11:51 PM
I had my father, GridOne get in contact with Toriyama-sama.

His words:

Toriyama
 
I did not intend for Tenshinhan-san to be there in the fight with Seru. But since he was there and I had written myself into a corner I used him and even gave him a suped up new attack to use.

In truth I also did not intend for Tenshinhan-san to surpass Furiza but by the Majin Boo portion of the story I guess he might have along with Kuririn.
Why didn't you let him ask Tien vs Krillin for once and for all.

I'm glad he tought of that.
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I agree Humans > Base Saiyans. Gohan, Krillin and Tien thought they could jump 20 after seeing the beating Sick SSJ Goku put on 19 and how durable he was and 20 said that his even stronger than 19.
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Jan 14 2013, 12:18 AM
I agree Humans > Base Saiyans. Gohan, Krillin and Tien thought they could jump 20 after seeing the beating Sick SSJ Goku put on 19 and how durable he was and 20 said that his even stronger than 19.
Then I guess Tien is > #20, SSJ Trunks and SSJ Vegeta because he jumped #17.
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Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Jan 14 2013, 12:20 AM
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Jan 14 2013, 12:18 AM
I agree Humans > Base Saiyans. Gohan, Krillin and Tien thought they could jump 20 after seeing the beating Sick SSJ Goku put on 19 and how durable he was and 20 said that his even stronger than 19.
Then I guess Tien is > #20, SSJ Trunks and SSJ Vegeta because he jumped #17.


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Jan 14 2013, 12:25 AM
Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Jan 14 2013, 12:20 AM
Animelover5487
Jan 14 2013, 12:18 AM
I agree Humans > Base Saiyans. Gohan, Krillin and Tien thought they could jump 20 after seeing the beating Sick SSJ Goku put on 19 and how durable he was and 20 said that his even stronger than 19.
Then I guess Tien is > #20, SSJ Trunks and SSJ Vegeta because he jumped #17.


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Ah okay, never mind. Sarcasm doesn't translate so well over the internet. :P
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