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Accurate Power Levels
Topic Started: Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM (11,675 Views)
GridZero
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Oh boy.

I think it's better to say that Toriyama did not give a damn about logic in that Semi Perfect Cell scene than this at this point in time.
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Alex D. Boss
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Krillin and Yamcha are above saiyans too , LMFAO.
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znet
Jan 13 2013, 11:13 AM
Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 13 2013, 03:15 AM
Seriously, Znet, are you SERIOUSLY still saying this crap about Gohan at the Cell Games? I JUST destroyed your argument this week, not to mention in this thread before as well. Give it up, my boy.

And wow, you're a bigger Tenshinhan fanboy than GridZero and Cocoman combined. You're downright delusional. You can't come up with a coherent, logical argument for them at all yet you still repeat it after each time you get it destroyed. You can have your opinion all you want, but you really need to think about what you say before you post it.

Read the manga. It's clear you haven't. It looks like you're just using the crappy DB Wiki. Read up on circular logic because you use it in every argument and it's annoying.

I'm not trying to sound cruel, but it's getting ridiculous how often we have to repeat these debates. :p


Gohan is not stronger than cell its basically says it in the script you show you must not be looking it at right.

Are you looking at it wrong? Cheer up, bro!
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Tien held of semi cell so unless you have crazy multiplier for his attack which I don’t use then go ahead.

That's your problem. You use this circular logic without basis.

You can't even use this example because it's faulty. Did any of the Base Saiyans know or use the Shin Kikoho on Semi-Perfect Cell? I didn't see that in the manga, therefore they aren't comparable.
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And no need to get angry this is a fourm about dbz/anime.

You've got a long way to go if you think I was anywhere near angry.
Tien Shinhan
Jan 13 2013, 05:29 PM
BukLau
Jan 13 2013, 05:05 PM
Exactly how strong is he saying Tenshinhan is in the Cell Saga?

Above Base Saiyans

Which is wrong.
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Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 13 2013, 07:44 PM
Which is wrong.


Indeed.
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Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 13 2013, 07:44 PM
znet
Jan 13 2013, 11:13 AM
Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 13 2013, 03:15 AM
Seriously, Znet, are you SERIOUSLY still saying this crap about Gohan at the Cell Games? I JUST destroyed your argument this week, not to mention in this thread before as well. Give it up, my boy.

And wow, you're a bigger Tenshinhan fanboy than GridZero and Cocoman combined. You're downright delusional. You can't come up with a coherent, logical argument for them at all yet you still repeat it after each time you get it destroyed. You can have your opinion all you want, but you really need to think about what you say before you post it.

Read the manga. It's clear you haven't. It looks like you're just using the crappy DB Wiki. Read up on circular logic because you use it in every argument and it's annoying.

I'm not trying to sound cruel, but it's getting ridiculous how often we have to repeat these debates. :p


Gohan is not stronger than cell its basically says it in the script you show you must not be looking it at right.

Are you looking at it wrong? Cheer up, bro!
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Tien held of semi cell so unless you have crazy multiplier for his attack which I don’t use then go ahead.

That's your problem. You use this circular logic without basis.

You can't even use this example because it's faulty. Did any of the Base Saiyans know or use the Shin Kikoho on Semi-Perfect Cell? I didn't see that in the manga, therefore they aren't comparable.
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And no need to get angry this is a fourm about dbz/anime.

You've got a long way to go if you think I was anywhere near angry.
Tien Shinhan
Jan 13 2013, 05:29 PM
BukLau
Jan 13 2013, 05:05 PM
Exactly how strong is he saying Tenshinhan is in the Cell Saga?

Above Base Saiyans

Which is wrong.
how do you split up the quotes like that?


you keep saying circular logic but your assuming tien is weaker than the sayains and his attack was haxed when it could be the other way round there’s circular logic for you.
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Tenshinhan's attack is haxed.

Even if you do not believe it in the Semi Perfect Cell scene, you must believe it in the Bootenks scene.
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how do you split up the quotes like that?

The multi-quoting feature.
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you keep saying circular logic but your assuming tien is weaker than the sayains and his attack was haxed when it could be the other way round there’s circular logic for you.

No, that's not circular logic because I actually have a basis for my stance.

I think the Shin Kikoho is haxed because Ten's always been behind the Base Saiyans and nothing implied that status quo had changed. He was grouped in with the other humans and Gohan by Piccolo, so if he's above the Base Saiyans, then so are Krillin, Yamcha, and Gohan, and the latter would throw your entire theory to the trash bin in and of itself because he is a Saiyan just as much as Goku and Vegeta.

You think the attack isn't haxed and that Ten is just that strong. But why? Was he that strong against Gotenks-Boo?
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BukLau
Jan 13 2013, 08:13 PM
Tenshinhan's attack is haxed.

Even if you do not believe it in the Semi Perfect Cell scene, you must believe it in the Bootenks scene.
Buutenks attack was a weak ki

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When Vegeta rescued Goku from Android #19, Gero stated that things would finally start to get interesting.

That's it.

That's all I need to prove to you that Base Vegeta > Suppressed Piccolo > Gohan, Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha.
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Jan 13 2013, 08:22 PM
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how do you split up the quotes like that?

The multi-quoting feature.
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you keep saying circular logic but your assuming tien is weaker than the sayains and his attack was haxed when it could be the other way round there’s circular logic for you.

No, that's not circular logic because I actually have a basis for my stance.

I think the Shin Kikoho is haxed because Ten's always been behind the Base Saiyans and nothing implied that status quo had changed. He was grouped in with the other humans and Gohan by Piccolo, so if he's above the Base Saiyans, then so are Krillin, Yamcha, and Gohan, and the latter would throw your entire theory to the trash bin in and of itself because he is a Saiyan just as much as Goku and Vegeta.

You think the attack isn't haxed and that Ten is just that strong. But why? Was he that strong against Gotenks-Boo?
Humans and piccolo surpass Vegeta for a brief moment from king kai training.

Piccolo was weaker than Base Vegeta, and Yadrat Goku. In Android arc he is inches away from SSJ Goku who also trained.

so why do you find it hard that the Humans not just Tien could have gotten stronger than the Base Saiyans.

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Jan 13 2013, 08:36 PM
When Vegeta rescued Goku from Android #19, Gero stated that things would finally start to get interesting.

That's it.

That's all I need to prove to you that Base Vegeta > Suppressed Piccolo > Gohan, Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha.
how does that prove? Vegeta was seen as one of the strongest fighters while the humans and piccolo were seen as weak. because the android never knew that they have been preparing for there arrival

funny you only make piccolo suppressed.

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znet
Jan 13 2013, 08:39 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 13 2013, 08:22 PM
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how do you split up the quotes like that?

The multi-quoting feature.
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you keep saying circular logic but your assuming tien is weaker than the sayains and his attack was haxed when it could be the other way round there’s circular logic for you.

No, that's not circular logic because I actually have a basis for my stance.

I think the Shin Kikoho is haxed because Ten's always been behind the Base Saiyans and nothing implied that status quo had changed. He was grouped in with the other humans and Gohan by Piccolo, so if he's above the Base Saiyans, then so are Krillin, Yamcha, and Gohan, and the latter would throw your entire theory to the trash bin in and of itself because he is a Saiyan just as much as Goku and Vegeta.

You think the attack isn't haxed and that Ten is just that strong. But why? Was he that strong against Gotenks-Boo?
Humans and piccolo surpass Vegeta for a brief moment from king kai training.

Piccolo was weaker than Base Vegeta, and Yadrat Goku. In Android arc he is inches away from SSJ Goku who also trained.

so why do you find it hard that the Humans not just Tien could have gotten stronger than the Base Saiyans.


Piccolo was shown and stated to have gotten that strong, showing a change in the status quo. Was it shown and/or stated that the humans did? I didn't see it.
znet
Jan 13 2013, 08:43 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 13 2013, 08:36 PM
When Vegeta rescued Goku from Android #19, Gero stated that things would finally start to get interesting.

That's it.

That's all I need to prove to you that Base Vegeta > Suppressed Piccolo > Gohan, Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha.
how does that prove? Vegeta was seen as one of the strongest fighters while the humans and piccolo were seen as weak. because the android never knew that they have been preparing for there arrival

He had a scouter. If he thought Base Vegeta would be the only interesting person out of the bunch, that would make him the strongest.
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funny you only make piccolo suppressed.


Funny he's the only one who is shown and stated to be suppressed. The others would have had no reason not to be after Yamcha was attacked in West City.
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znet
Jan 13 2013, 08:23 PM
BukLau
Jan 13 2013, 08:13 PM
Tenshinhan's attack is haxed.

Even if you do not believe it in the Semi Perfect Cell scene, you must believe it in the Bootenks scene.
Buutenks attack was a weak ki

You can't even begin to prove that.
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BukLau
Jan 13 2013, 08:50 PM
znet
Jan 13 2013, 08:23 PM
BukLau
Jan 13 2013, 08:13 PM
Tenshinhan's attack is haxed.

Even if you do not believe it in the Semi Perfect Cell scene, you must believe it in the Bootenks scene.
Buutenks attack was a weak ki

You can't even begin to prove that.
yes its takes allot of power to kill Dende, Hercule and a half dead Gohan.
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znet
Jan 13 2013, 08:56 PM
BukLau
Jan 13 2013, 08:50 PM
znet
Jan 13 2013, 08:23 PM
BukLau
Jan 13 2013, 08:13 PM
Tenshinhan's attack is haxed.

Even if you do not believe it in the Semi Perfect Cell scene, you must believe it in the Bootenks scene.
Buutenks attack was a weak ki

You can't even begin to prove that.
yes its takes allot of power to kill Dende, Hercule and a half dead Gohan.
It also takes a lot of power to hit an attack from the side instead of head-on. ;)
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