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Accurate Power Levels
Topic Started: Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM (11,677 Views)
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-_-; This is not about Zarbon.

Only in the VIZ translation is Raditz 1,200. Let me repeat that.

Only

in

the

VIZ

translation

is

Raditz

1,200.

What does the original Japanese version say?

Chapter: 215 (DBZ 21), P1.3
Context: after Tenshinhan beats a Saibaiman
Nappa: "Im-impossible...!! The Saibaiman's battle power is 1,200...!! Going just by power, he rivals Raditz...!!"

The Saibamen at 1,200 only RIVAL Raditz.

What does Akira Toriyama, you know, the AUTHOR, say?

「しかし戦闘力はかなり高くラディッツより少し劣る程度。」
But their battle power is considerably high, at a level slightly inferior to Raditz

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/battle-power/manga/

Read and concede.
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Jan 12 2013, 07:38 PM
-_-; This is not about Zarbon.

Only in the VIZ translation is Raditz 1,200. Let me repeat that.

Only

in

the

VIZ

translation

is

Raditz

1,200.

What does the original Japanese version say?

Chapter: 215 (DBZ 21), P1.3
Context: after Tenshinhan beats a Saibaiman
Nappa: g"Im-impossible...!! The Saibaiman's battle power is 1,200...!! Going just by power, he rivals Raditz...!!"

The Saibamen at 1,200 only RIVAL Raditz.

What does Akira Toriyama, you know, the AUTHOR, say?

u퓬͂͂Ȃ荂fBbc菭xBv
gBut their battle power is considerably high, at a level slightly inferior to Raditzh

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/battle-power/manga/

Read and concede.
em em what is viz? joking

so what is radtz bp
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Slightly higher than 1200. Still low enough so that a Saibaman gives him a good fight.
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znet
Jan 12 2013, 07:40 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 12 2013, 07:38 PM
-_-; This is not about Zarbon.

Only in the VIZ translation is Raditz 1,200. Let me repeat that.

Only

in

the

VIZ

translation

is

Raditz

1,200.

What does the original Japanese version say?

Chapter: 215 (DBZ 21), P1.3
Context: after Tenshinhan beats a Saibaiman
Nappa: g"Im-impossible...!! The Saibaiman's battle power is 1,200...!! Going just by power, he rivals Raditz...!!"

The Saibamen at 1,200 only RIVAL Raditz.

What does Akira Toriyama, you know, the AUTHOR, say?

u퓬͂͂Ȃ荂fBbc菭xBv
gBut their battle power is considerably high, at a level slightly inferior to Raditzh

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/battle-power/manga/

Read and concede.
em em what is viz? joking

so what is radtz bp
Higher than 1,200. That's as much as we know, unless you go by the Daizenshuu's 1,500 for him.
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Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Jan 12 2013, 07:41 PM
Slightly higher than 1200. Still low enough so that a Saibaman gives him a good fight.
Around 1,325
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Tien Shinhan
Jan 12 2013, 07:42 PM
Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Jan 12 2013, 07:41 PM
Slightly higher than 1200. Still low enough so that a Saibaman gives him a good fight.
Around 1,325
ill just say 1201 to piss KP
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znet
Jan 12 2013, 07:49 PM
Tien Shinhan
Jan 12 2013, 07:42 PM
Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Jan 12 2013, 07:41 PM
Slightly higher than 1200. Still low enough so that a Saibaman gives him a good fight.
Around 1,325
ill just say 1201 to piss KP
I'm dying of anger right now. Please, please...raise it to 1202!
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Take your massive Posted Image, znet.

Really, you'd think people have better things to do that try and bait KP into an argument.

That they're going to lose.
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Alex D. Boss
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Nah , znet is a good guy , atleast he accepts the truth , unlike some others who are still talking shet...
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Anyone talking crap paste at this point should be labeled a troll.

No excuse to not know simplistic things in this era.

Different interpretation of events are different of course, but saying no to a fact is poop.
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Znet you've put Raditz at 1,200 again? What the hell mane?
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I don't think he changed it yet, if he's going to.
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Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 12 2013, 08:42 PM
I don't think he changed it yet, if he's going to.
He changed to 1,250 , and then changed back to 1,200. :o_O:

I think Babidi controls him smh...
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znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Sayain saga
Wut.

Saiyan*, just a little thing that's bugging me.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
~Raditz vs Goku and Piccolo~
Raditz: 1,200
Yeah, already went over his. More than 1200.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
~Arrival of Vegeta and Nappa~
Saibamen: 1,200
Yamcha: 1,480
Yamcha has too big of an advantage for the Saibaman to have given him a good fight. At least lower him to somewhere in the 1300 area.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Krillin 1,770
Tien: 1,830
Chaotzu :610
Piccolo,: 2,500
Gohan: 980
Gohan,maseko: 3,000
The Masenko was 2800, not 3000. Include a level for Tien's Kikoho as well, and make sure Piccolo is lower than the Kikoho.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
~Arrival of Goku~
Goku: 5,000
Goku full power,: 8,000
Goku,Kaioh-ken: 16,000
Goku,Kaioh-ken x 3: 24,000
Goku,Kaioh-ken x 4: 32,000
Goku was over 8000.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Nappa: 4,000
Nappa full power: 7,000
Nappa's at around a 1.14-1.15x advantage or so right here. Goku would've won easily with a gap this large. If Goku's around 8000, you should at least bump Nappa up to a bit higher than 7200 to go with Goku's statement that their fight could've gone on forever.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Vegeta,Oozaru: 180,000
Vegeta was beaten up and he had lost chi to make the moon ball. He should be lower than 180,000.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Vegeta: 24,000
Zarbon: 21,000
I don't think Zarbon should be lower than 22,000, seeing as how he wasn't very scared of Vegeta's initial 22,000 reading, and was only scared when 24,000 came up.

If you don't like him being so high, then you can simply add in a separate level for Zarbon with lowered Yuuki or Shouki (Yuuki is bravery, Shouki is true character, and both have an effect on chi. Zarbon's Yuuki could be lower due to fighting someone so much superior, and Shouki could be lower as he doesn't care much for fights and such). It'd look like:

Zarbon - 22,000
Zarbon (lowered Yuuki/Shouki) - 21,000

I'd personally just keep him at 22,000, but the above is fine too. Hopefully you were able to follow what I said right here.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Guldo: 10,000
Gohan and Krillin were just a bit over 10,000, and thought Guldo was weak sauce. He should be much lower than they are, also considering how much of a tough time he had stopping time with them. I'd make him weaker than Nappa, honestly.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Jeice: 50,000
Burter: 45,000
Recoome: 40,000
These 3 were all about the same strength. There shouldn't be such a difference between them all.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Captain Ginyu: 120,000
Gohan Zenkai: 19,000
Ginyu,in Goku's body: 23,000
Gohan with Zenkai should be superior to Ginyu in Goku.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
~Vegeta vs Freezer (1st Fight)~
Vegeta: 500,000
Frieza: 530,000
Frieza,form 2: 1,060,000
~Piccolo vs Frieza~

Krillin: 300,000
Gohan: 400,000
Gohan angered: 1,000,000
Piccolo (fused with Nail w/weghts): 1,200,000
Piccolo ( fused with nail w/o weights): 1,500,000
Frieza,form 2: 1,060,000
Frieza form 2 full power: 1,400,000
Frieza,form 3: 2,300,000
Freeza powered up twice in 2nd form, once before Piccolo arrived and once after, so include them both.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
~Vegeta vs Frieza (2nd Fight)~
Vegeta,after Dendes heal: 2,500,000
Frieza,form 4: 3,000,000
The Form 3 to Form 4 power up should be a lot larger. It should at least be as large as the Form 2 to Form 3 power up. Also, Vegeta should be way stronger than 3rd form Freeza, not by such a small amount, because:

Vegeta > Form 4 Freeza (expected) >>> 3rd form Freeza. So take that all into consideration. It'll make your numbers bigger than the Daizenshuu's numbers, but I honestly don't think that's a problem.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
~Goku vs Frieza~
Frieza,form 4: 3,000,000
Frieza, 50% of full power: 60,000,000
Frieza, 100% full power: 120,000,000
Goku: 3,000,000
Goku, Kaioken x10: 30,000,000
Goku, Kaioken x20: 60,000,000
SSJ Goku: 150,000,000
Freeza shouldn't be so far away from Goku, the two are rivals. It isn't until Freeza starts to lose chi that Goku gains a noticeable edge. Going by this, Goku would've owned Freeza more easily than Vegeta did Dodoria, which obviously didn't happen even after Freeza started losing power.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Mecha Frizea: 150,000,000
King Cold: 130,000,000
King Cold was around the same level as a heavily suppressed Mecha Freeza, so he shouldn't be so close to a full power Mecha Freeza's level.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Goku: 22,000,000
Vegeta: 22,500,000
Trunks: 21,000,000
Gohan: 15,000,000
Krillin: 50,000,000
Tien: 45,000,000
Yamcha: 30,000,000
Piccolo w/weights: 150,000,000
piccolo w/o weights: 200,000,000
Piccolo should be on a level higher than Yardrat Goku, because when he fought Dr Gero, he brought up the notion of having become so strong, which would put him far higher than any of the Trunks Saga SSJs.

The humans are stated to be pesky flies in comparison to Base Vegeta, they should be noticeable lower.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Android 20 pre absorption: 140,000,000
Android 20 post absorption: 160,000,000
Android 19 pre absorption: 130,000,000
Android 19 post absorption: 150,000,000
19 after absorption should be a bit higher than Trunks when killing Freeza. Vegeta says he isn't as bad as the rumors made him out to be, and the rumors were that the androids would beat up a Trunks-level foe. He should be higher than the Trunks that killed Freeza, simply by a small amount. Going by that, Android 20 would end up higher as well.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
SSJ Goku: 220,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 210,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 225,000,000
How come they're stronger than Yardrat Goku by such a small amount? Your level for that was 200,000,000. When taking into consideration the chain of 20 post absorptions >> 19 post absorptions > Trunks (killing Freeza), the Super Saiyans should be far higher than Yardrat Goku by now.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Piccolo w/weights: 300,000,00
Piccolo w/o weights: 350,000,000
Imperfect Cell: 290,000,000
Android 18: 300,000,000
Android 17: 350,000,000
Imperfect Cell post absorption: 500,000,000
Android 16: 500,000,000
Imperfect Cell initially should be lower than Weighted Piccolo by a noticeable amount, he was at a clear disadvantage even after taking some of Piccolo's power. After absorptions, he tanked a Light Grenade from Piccolo which should be far stronger than the Kamehameha during the Saiyan Saga, which was roughly 2.22x Goku's base power. Going by that:

Imperfect Cell >>> Light Grenade >>> 2.22x Piccolo >>> Piccolo. The gap should be very big.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Semi Perfect Cell: 1,200,000,000
Tien Tri Beam: 900,000,000
Vegeta: 100,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 1,000,000,000
ASSJ Vegeta: 1,500,000,000
Trunks: 95,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 950,000,000
ASSJ Trunks: 1,425,000,000
Make sure you take into account the fact that Semi Cell powered up once when he fought Vegeta too.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
ASSJ Vegeta: 1,500,000,000
Perfect Cell: 1,800,000,000
USSJ Trunks: 1,900,000,000
Perfect Cell tanked Vegeta's kick to the neck, and USSJ Trunks "easily" surpassed Cell, so make these gaps bigger to account for that.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Goku: 340,000,000
Gohan: 350,000,000
SSJ 50% Goku: 1,700,000,000
Okay, now this I should commend you on. Most people on here like to have 50% SSJ Goku > USSJ Trunks, but I just can't see it that way anymore. You just have to make his advantage over ASSJ Vegeta bigger (same with Perfect Cell, as I said above).
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
SSJ 50% Gohan: 1,750,000,000
You need to make Gohan's advantage more noticeable, man. Cell only gained an upper hand when he increased his speed.


znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Krillin: 75,000,000
Tien: 60,000,000
Yamcha: 40,000,000
The humans shouldn't have gotten any stronger over the 10 day wait.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Trunks: 270,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 2,700,000,000
Vegeta: 300,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 3,000,000,000
Goku: 340,000,000
SSJ Goku: 3,400,000,000
Trunks and Vegeta seem too close to full power Goku in power. They were completely blown away by it, remember. Also, include a level for Cell while he fights Goku.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Gohan: 350,000,000
SSJ Gohan: 3,500,000,000
Again, Gohan's advantage needs to be more noticeable. He thought Goku's level against Cell was a joke, and it's not until Cell increases his speed that Gohan truly begins to have trouble.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
SSJ2 Gohan: 7,000,000,000
Cell jrs: 3,400,000,000
Perfect Cell: 3,600,000,000
FP Perfect Cell: 5,400,000,000
FP Buff Cell: 7,200,000,000
Super Perfect Cell: 6,300,000,000
The Cell Jrs shouldn't be too tremendously ahead of Vegeta, so I doubt they'd end up on Goku's level.

Buff Cell shouldn't be above Gohan, he was crippled in 2 blows. He should be considerably weaker. You can make up for this by making FP PC a bit lower. Even though Gohan didn't tank FP PC's punch, he didn't budge very much. If you've got Gohan at 7,000,000,000, then FP PC could be more suited to be around the 4 billion range. Not too far, not too close. Still a large gap. You should remember that Vegeta is about 75% of Recoome (30,000 to 40,000) and he landed a very good punch at the beginning of the fight that sent Recoome flying a bit. Having FP PC at, say, 60% of SSJ2 Kid Gohan is fine.

Anyways, good effort. Still many things I disagree on, but a much better effort than the last few times.
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Jan 12 2013, 09:02 PM
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Sayain saga
Wut.

Saiyan*, just a little thing that's bugging me.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
~Raditz vs Goku and Piccolo~
Raditz: 1,200
Yeah, already went over his. More than 1200.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
~Arrival of Vegeta and Nappa~
Saibamen: 1,200
Yamcha: 1,480
Yamcha has too big of an advantage for the Saibaman to have given him a good fight. At least lower him to somewhere in the 1300 area.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Krillin 1,770
Tien: 1,830
Chaotzu :610
Piccolo,: 2,500
Gohan: 980
Gohan,maseko: 3,000
The Masenko was 2800, not 3000. Include a level for Tien's Kikoho as well, and make sure Piccolo is lower than the Kikoho.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
~Arrival of Goku~
Goku: 5,000
Goku full power,: 8,000
Goku,Kaioh-ken: 16,000
Goku,Kaioh-ken x 3: 24,000
Goku,Kaioh-ken x 4: 32,000
Goku was over 8000.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Nappa: 4,000
Nappa full power: 7,000
Nappa's at around a 1.14-1.15x advantage or so right here. Goku would've won easily with a gap this large. If Goku's around 8000, you should at least bump Nappa up to a bit higher than 7200 to go with Goku's statement that their fight could've gone on forever.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Vegeta,Oozaru: 180,000
Vegeta was beaten up and he had lost chi to make the moon ball. He should be lower than 180,000.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Vegeta: 24,000
Zarbon: 21,000
I don't think Zarbon should be lower than 22,000, seeing as how he wasn't very scared of Vegeta's initial 22,000 reading, and was only scared when 24,000 came up.

If you don't like him being so high, then you can simply add in a separate level for Zarbon with lowered Yuuki or Shouki (Yuuki is bravery, Shouki is true character, and both have an effect on chi. Zarbon's Yuuki could be lower due to fighting someone so much superior, and Shouki could be lower as he doesn't care much for fights and such). It'd look like:

Zarbon - 22,000
Zarbon (lowered Yuuki/Shouki) - 21,000

I'd personally just keep him at 22,000, but the above is fine too. Hopefully you were able to follow what I said right here.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Guldo: 10,000
Gohan and Krillin were just a bit over 10,000, and thought Guldo was weak sauce. He should be much lower than they are, also considering how much of a tough time he had stopping time with them. I'd make him weaker than Nappa, honestly.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Jeice: 50,000
Burter: 45,000
Recoome: 40,000
These 3 were all about the same strength. There shouldn't be such a difference between them all.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Captain Ginyu: 120,000
Gohan Zenkai: 19,000
Ginyu,in Goku's body: 23,000
Gohan with Zenkai should be superior to Ginyu in Goku.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
~Vegeta vs Freezer (1st Fight)~
Vegeta: 500,000
Frieza: 530,000
Frieza,form 2: 1,060,000
~Piccolo vs Frieza~

Krillin: 300,000
Gohan: 400,000
Gohan angered: 1,000,000
Piccolo (fused with Nail w/weghts): 1,200,000
Piccolo ( fused with nail w/o weights): 1,500,000
Frieza,form 2: 1,060,000
Frieza form 2 full power: 1,400,000
Frieza,form 3: 2,300,000
Freeza powered up twice in 2nd form, once before Piccolo arrived and once after, so include them both.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
~Vegeta vs Frieza (2nd Fight)~
Vegeta,after Dendes heal: 2,500,000
Frieza,form 4: 3,000,000
The Form 3 to Form 4 power up should be a lot larger. It should at least be as large as the Form 2 to Form 3 power up. Also, Vegeta should be way stronger than 3rd form Freeza, not by such a small amount, because:

Vegeta > Form 4 Freeza (expected) >>> 3rd form Freeza. So take that all into consideration. It'll make your numbers bigger than the Daizenshuu's numbers, but I honestly don't think that's a problem.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
~Goku vs Frieza~
Frieza,form 4: 3,000,000
Frieza, 50% of full power: 60,000,000
Frieza, 100% full power: 120,000,000
Goku: 3,000,000
Goku, Kaioken x10: 30,000,000
Goku, Kaioken x20: 60,000,000
SSJ Goku: 150,000,000
Freeza shouldn't be so far away from Goku, the two are rivals. It isn't until Freeza starts to lose chi that Goku gains a noticeable edge. Going by this, Goku would've owned Freeza more easily than Vegeta did Dodoria, which obviously didn't happen even after Freeza started losing power.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Mecha Frizea: 150,000,000
King Cold: 130,000,000
King Cold was around the same level as a heavily suppressed Mecha Freeza, so he shouldn't be so close to a full power Mecha Freeza's level.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Goku: 22,000,000
Vegeta: 22,500,000
Trunks: 21,000,000
Gohan: 15,000,000
Krillin: 50,000,000
Tien: 45,000,000
Yamcha: 30,000,000
Piccolo w/weights: 150,000,000
piccolo w/o weights: 200,000,000
Piccolo should be on a level higher than Yardrat Goku, because when he fought Dr Gero, he brought up the notion of having become so strong, which would put him far higher than any of the Trunks Saga SSJs.

The humans are stated to be pesky flies in comparison to Base Vegeta, they should be noticeable lower.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Android 20 pre absorption: 140,000,000
Android 20 post absorption: 160,000,000
Android 19 pre absorption: 130,000,000
Android 19 post absorption: 150,000,000
19 after absorption should be a bit higher than Trunks when killing Freeza. Vegeta says he isn't as bad as the rumors made him out to be, and the rumors were that the androids would beat up a Trunks-level foe. He should be higher than the Trunks that killed Freeza, simply by a small amount. Going by that, Android 20 would end up higher as well.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
SSJ Goku: 220,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 210,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 225,000,000
How come they're stronger than Yardrat Goku by such a small amount? Your level for that was 200,000,000. When taking into consideration the chain of 20 post absorptions >> 19 post absorptions > Trunks (killing Freeza), the Super Saiyans should be far higher than Yardrat Goku by now.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Piccolo w/weights: 300,000,00
Piccolo w/o weights: 350,000,000
Imperfect Cell: 290,000,000
Android 18: 300,000,000
Android 17: 350,000,000
Imperfect Cell post absorption: 500,000,000
Android 16: 500,000,000
Imperfect Cell initially should be lower than Weighted Piccolo by a noticeable amount, he was at a clear disadvantage even after taking some of Piccolo's power. After absorptions, he tanked a Light Grenade from Piccolo which should be far stronger than the Kamehameha during the Saiyan Saga, which was roughly 2.22x Goku's base power. Going by that:

Imperfect Cell >>> Light Grenade >>> 2.22x Piccolo >>> Piccolo. The gap should be very big.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Semi Perfect Cell: 1,200,000,000
Tien Tri Beam: 900,000,000
Vegeta: 100,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 1,000,000,000
ASSJ Vegeta: 1,500,000,000
Trunks: 95,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 950,000,000
ASSJ Trunks: 1,425,000,000
Make sure you take into account the fact that Semi Cell powered up once when he fought Vegeta too.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
ASSJ Vegeta: 1,500,000,000
Perfect Cell: 1,800,000,000
USSJ Trunks: 1,900,000,000
Perfect Cell tanked Vegeta's kick to the neck, and USSJ Trunks "easily" surpassed Cell, so make these gaps bigger to account for that.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Goku: 340,000,000
Gohan: 350,000,000
SSJ 50% Goku: 1,700,000,000
Okay, now this I should commend you on. Most people on here like to have 50% SSJ Goku > USSJ Trunks, but I just can't see it that way anymore. You just have to make his advantage over ASSJ Vegeta bigger (same with Perfect Cell, as I said above).
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
SSJ 50% Gohan: 1,750,000,000
You need to make Gohan's advantage more noticeable, man. Cell only gained an upper hand when he increased his speed.


znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Krillin: 75,000,000
Tien: 60,000,000
Yamcha: 40,000,000
The humans shouldn't have gotten any stronger over the 10 day wait.

znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Trunks: 270,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 2,700,000,000
Vegeta: 300,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 3,000,000,000
Goku: 340,000,000
SSJ Goku: 3,400,000,000
Trunks and Vegeta seem too close to full power Goku in power. They were completely blown away by it, remember. Also, include a level for Cell while he fights Goku.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
Gohan: 350,000,000
SSJ Gohan: 3,500,000,000
Again, Gohan's advantage needs to be more noticeable. He thought Goku's level against Cell was a joke, and it's not until Cell increases his speed that Gohan truly begins to have trouble.
znet
Nov 11 2012, 02:37 AM
SSJ2 Gohan: 7,000,000,000
Cell jrs: 3,400,000,000
Perfect Cell: 3,600,000,000
FP Perfect Cell: 5,400,000,000
FP Buff Cell: 7,200,000,000
Super Perfect Cell: 6,300,000,000
The Cell Jrs shouldn't be too tremendously ahead of Vegeta, so I doubt they'd end up on Goku's level.

Buff Cell shouldn't be above Gohan, he was crippled in 2 blows. He should be considerably weaker. You can make up for this by making FP PC a bit lower. Even though Gohan didn't tank FP PC's punch, he didn't budge very much. If you've got Gohan at 7,000,000,000, then FP PC could be more suited to be around the 4 billion range. Not too far, not too close. Still a large gap. You should remember that Vegeta is about 75% of Recoome (30,000 to 40,000) and he landed a very good punch at the beginning of the fight that sent Recoome flying a bit. Having FP PC at, say, 60% of SSJ2 Kid Gohan is fine.

Anyways, good effort. Still many things I disagree on, but a much better effort than the last few times.
the gap between cell and vegeta is the same than frizea form 3 vs vegeta.
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