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| Zenet | Jan 12 2013, 06:18 PM Post #46 |
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but compared to the other fighters those increases are very little. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 12 2013, 06:18 PM Post #47 |
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The fact that Raditz still could walk after the hit.. |
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| + Pyrus | Jan 12 2013, 06:20 PM Post #48 |
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I didn't say he was 1,500. I only said he was NOT 1,200, which he is not according to at least three sources, including the author himself. Why continue arguing against the author?
It doesn't matter. It was 10 days. That's just not even logical, man! Edited by Pyrus, Jan 12 2013, 06:21 PM.
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 12 2013, 06:20 PM Post #49 |
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Ok forget that increase thing. Do you agree now that SSJ's>Piccolo? |
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| Zenet | Jan 12 2013, 06:23 PM Post #50 |
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if raditz was stronger than the headbut he woundnt have been harmed plus he was scared of goku kamehameha who was only 900. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 12 2013, 06:24 PM Post #51 |
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Yeah but he deflected it. So whats your point? Raditz is higher than 1,200 , period. |
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| Zenet | Jan 12 2013, 06:27 PM Post #52 |
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yes and no because piccolo had better feats against the stronger android than goku/vegeta against the weaker android he should be rivalling them not below trunks who was much weaker than goku when he killed frizea so it must have remained the same in android arc. |
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| Zenet | Jan 12 2013, 06:32 PM Post #53 |
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1200 could block a 900 attack. if he was more than 1200 he would reflect it with his hair |
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| + Pyrus | Jan 12 2013, 06:38 PM Post #54 |
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Androids don't feel pain or fatigue. Goku was thrashing A19 until he used his Kamehameha; he was going to break him until that point, as stated by A20. Vegeta reeled back a foot or so from A19's punch to test him out, and then utterly dismantled him. Trunks didn't even fight one of them, so he's not really comparable here. Piccolo chopped off A20's hand, and that was it. Is that a better feat than actually destroying an android?
He blocked it with one hand with no ill side effects, unlike Nappa whose hand was singed after Gohan's Masenko. You can argue it all you want, but you'd continue to sound like you have authority over Akira Toriyama by going against his specific intention here. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 12 2013, 06:40 PM Post #55 |
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Trunks increased from Trunks saga too , there is no way he stays the same as Trunks saga , otherwise why would he come? Piccolo states that SSJ's are stronger than him , Vegeta is stronger than Goku , and Trunks is below those 2 , and Piccolo is below Trunks , not that much but a little but below. Chapter: 354 (DBZ 160), P4.1 Context: after No.17 knocks out Trunks Kuririn: “O-one hit..! And he was a Super Saiyan…!” BAM! Chapter: 355 (DBZ 161), P8.3-4 Tenshinhan: “Th-this is the man who took down Freeza…And he was helpless before these androids…I’ll be frank…! No matter how strong Goku may be, he shouldn’t be that different from Trunks or Vegeta…” BAMBAM! They didn't say nothing about Piccolo while Trunks was a surprise. This proves that Trunks is above Piccolo. Krillin states Tien states Trunks>Piccolo. |
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| Zenet | Jan 12 2013, 06:59 PM Post #56 |
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Ok SSJ trunks > Piccolo BAM! |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 12 2013, 07:05 PM Post #57 |
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:Tori: BAM ! |
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| Zenet | Jan 12 2013, 07:26 PM Post #58 |
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but officaly zarbon is 23,000 but every fan including you knows that is wrong. also the fact gohan headbut gave raditz a heart attack means hes below 1300 and officaly raidtz is 1200. and he is compared to a sibamen whos also 1200 |
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| + Kyouks | Jan 12 2013, 07:29 PM Post #59 |
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Not sure about other people; some people feel like it's the decider of everything in a match, their list says it, so it's right. Others use it just for the sake of comparing different fighters in a different way, to try to understand how powers correlate and stuff like that (can't quite find the right words). I made one too a while back, and I made it- 1) For the lolz 2) Just to get a visual representation on how certain character fights compare with each other (feats and such are used to determine gaps and such, then you could look at the end result to compare different fights or different people) 3) A few characters honestly can't get any placement without them. For example, the humans in the Androids Saga have little on them aside from the fact that they're below the Base Saiyans and that their chi added together with a Suppressed Piccolo can help Gero defeat SSJ Vegeta. With those alone, it's impossible to tell how strong they are in comparison to, say, Freeza, but putting them into a power level list, someone could at least get an idea (obviously it wouldn't be fact, but it's better than nothing) 4) Every now and then some ridiculous "Android 19 SSJ3 vs Imperfect Cell Oozaru" topic comes up where having numbers on hand is a bit of a help (again, not a factual way to end the debate, but better than nothing) As for the last question, dem pplz is n00bz. Unless you mean stated PLs from the show, in which case, yeah, if Nail and Vegeta are matched up, for example, Nail's stated to be 42,000 and Vegeta was 30,000 when he fought Recoome, so people would look at that and say Nail wins. Even back in DB, power and speed were honestly the most important things; other things come to play only when your power and speed are close together to the point that things could go either way (or if you have a hax technique like Destructo Disc). But for the record, yeah you could say they're "immeasurable" and they could be closer to worthless than they are..not worthless. Anyways hoped I help. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 12 2013, 07:37 PM Post #60 |
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Chapter: 215 (DBZ 21), P1.3 Context: after Tenshinhan beats a Saibaiman Nappa: “"Im-impossible...!! The Saibaiman's battle power is 1,200...!! Going just by power, he rivals Raditz...!!" Raditz is not 1,200. He is higher than that. |
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