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Nov 10 2012, 08:07 PM Post #1 |
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A brief inspection on a select few movies Legend: -Movie 8: -Inspection on Z-Senshi -The validity of Broly's power level -Movie 10: -Inspection on Gohan and kids -A brief analysis on the ending -Placement of Broly's true power Movie 8: Inspecting the true powers of our Z-Heroes, comparison with Cell Games self Trunks: ![]() We can see he is clearly USSjin here, but who is to say Vegeta and Trunks forgot these forms after their second Rosat? Either way it doesn't matter because both Gohan and Goku are MSSjin Vegeta's Second Transformation: ![]() He looks SSJin here, compare it with the one here against SPC: ![]() Goku: ![]() Cell Games: ![]() Pretty much everyone believes Goku and Gohan are their exact same Cell Games counterparts. Gohan: ![]() Cell Games: ![]() Time Table ![]() So there you have it, Cell Games Z-Senshi = Movie 8 Z-Senshi, now, lets go deeper... ![]() Woah there, Trunks as an SSj? MSSj is a fan-term for SSj so we don't need to worry about Gohan and Goku, but Trunks? Woah... So, judging by how Vegeta's power that he gave to Goku, he must be considerably higher than Gohan and Trunks, so here is the food chain: MSSj Goku (M8) = MSSj Gohan (Cell Games) > SSj Vegeta (M8) = MSSj Goku (Cell Games) > SSj Vegeta (Cell Games) > MSSj Gohan (M8) > SSj Trunks (M8 and Cell Games) Now, when King Kai and Goku both quote that RSSj Broly is indeed stronger than each and every single one of the Z-Senshi, we have to wonder...Just where is RSSj Broly?
There you have it, RSSj Broly > Cell Games Z-Senshi + Movie 8 Z-Senshi... Now, where to have him? Hmm...I think it is fair to say, RSSj Broly is the equivalent of powered-up Perfect Cell, not his Full Power. Mainly because of his ability of tanking a kick from Vegeta, who should be around 100% Cell Games MSSj Goku in my books. But then, you have LSSj Broly, a beast even stronger than his RSSj self. I think it is fairly accurate in my opinion, to have him around the middle of the gap between Full Power Perfect Cell, and Super Perfect Cell, but that is just me. Now, let's move to Movie 10 The Kids: ![]() The kids are described to be fight-hungry beasts, from the Daizenshuu. I think it's fair, and completely fair, to have them around their Budokai selves. Broly ![]() There, you see SSj Broly > MSSj Goku, and a confirmation of a Zenkai. This can only mean LSSj Broly is above SSj2 Goku, if this is what they intended with SSj Broly having power over Goku, I will go on with the ending soon, but let's move on to Gohan. Gohan If you are here to see GOHAN IS SSJ2 BLAH BLAH BLAH crap, it's not here. Although I believe Gohan is SSj2, I am not here to post pictures of him, you can find it elsewhere in these forums, this is just to put him somewhere: As he fights with Broly as base, he remarks: "He's as bad a monster as ever! And here i'm supposed to have powered up considerably since back then!" Now, since we already have SSj Broly > MSSj Goku, we can ignore the first statement. The second statement is where it gets very interesting. As you saw above, Gohan could be infact lower than his Cell Games self, but the fact that the Cell Games happens exactly after the movie, you can only wonder if Gohan is inferring that he got weaker than his Cell Games self but stronger than his Movie 8 self. Honestly, I think it is fair to have him a bit above his Cell Games self. SSj Broly (M10) > MSSj Goku (Buu Saga) > MSSj Gohan (M10) > MSSj Kid Gohan (Cell Games) > MSSj Budokai Gohan > MSSj Gohan (M8) Now, when Gohan goes SSj2, it is obvious Broly can't fight him. So, SSj2 Goku (Buu Saga) > SSj2 Gohan (M10) > SSj Broly (M10) But, Broly proceeds to go LSSj, which he effortlessly pummels Gohan.... LSSj Broly (M10) >> SSj2 Goku > SSj2 Gohan (M10) > SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games) > Super Perfect Cell > LSSj Broly (Movie 8) > SSj Broly (M10) = Full Power Perfect Cell > RSSj Broly > Cell Games and Movie 8 Z-Senshi The controversial Kamehameha wave... Now, the Daizenshuu confirms, itself, that Goku was there, calling it a three-man Kamehameha. ![]() Now, lets inspect the wind factor of each KHH wave first: Spoiler: click to toggle now, there is also this picture: ![]() Gohan's hair went SSj2 in this pic and the movie Goten's hair is unaffected by the wind in the pic and the movie Goku's hair went SSj2, in this pic and the movie. Contradictory? I think not. Broly survives it, then proceeds to hit the sun. Taking the common amplifier into account, whatever you may have it, 3x, 4x, 5x, whatever, we cannot ignore the fact of Broly surviving it until it hits the sun. That is my conclusion to the Broly analysis, I will not put him in a scale. All I would say, is that I surely, surely, have him in Fat Buu area, maybe higher. |
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Nov 10 2012, 08:14 PM Post #2 |
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Movie 13: -Hirudegan and SSj3 Goku's Power -Gotenks and Gohan being the same. ![]() So this takes place after the Buu Saga for sure. The Dragon Fist is "new" as well. ![]() So non-transformed Hirudegan > Ultimate Gohan? We can have half Hirudegan in mid-way from Gohan and Buutenks. ![]() ![]() Transformed Hirudegan can be Buutenks to Buuhan level for sure, SSj3 Goku ~ Hirudegan. Dragon Fist >>> Hirudegan. Goku is the strongest, like the Daiz said.
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