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Weight Training
Topic Started: Oct 22 2012, 04:06 AM (538 Views)
Professor Gohan
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If anyone is lifting with weights it's Goku. He used weight training during Kami and Popo's training, on his trip to Namek, and in Heaven. Vegeta on an occasion or two iirc, and other characters have been showed to use weights. My question is how much can they lift anyway? Goku was using regular old weights on his way to Namek, was he truly getting a workout from those?

Later down the line he has to transform to use the arm, and ankle weights in Heaven. They are super strong, yet they struggle with weights sometimes.
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+ Kyouks
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Chi strength >>> Physical strength, like someone else pointed out in another thread (can't remember who, but it sounds accurate).
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Professor Gohan
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What's the difference?
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One uses chi, one uses muscles.
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Professor Gohan
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I understand that, but can they use ki to lift more, and stuff like that?
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Possibly. I'm not sure. Vegeta going buff because of ASSJ is essentially because of him pumping chi into his arms, but we know that wasn't good in the long run (i.e., stamina, endurance, etc.).
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I think the difference between the two is shown when Piccolo says Goku punches harder than 17. 17 is more powerful but as a cyborg never had to train his chi enhanced body for his strength.
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Muscles cannot work without chi, period. The idea of chi is everyone uses it to move or live. So you cannot move or lift weights without Chi. It's just, people like Hercule focus on the biological aspect of muscles and not the Chi aspect.
Tha gaol agam ort. <3
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Only if you believe in that kind of thing. Scientifically you body moves from signals coming from your brain which cause your muscles to contract.

Sometimes I feel like the nerd of DBZF :T_T:
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Oct 22 2012, 06:45 AM
Only if you believe in that kind of thing. Scientifically you body moves from signals coming from your brain which cause your muscles to contract.

Sometimes I feel like the nerd of DBZF :T_T:
Trust me, i'm the nerd.

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There are however numerous ways you can amp up your muscles. For example, provide electrical stimulation can cause a muscle to reach what is called tetanus which causes a much stronger contraction than you could have done stimulating the muscle voluntarily.

The idea of 'ki' could well be based on something like this - so who knows really :)
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We're all nerds. I'm only explaining how Toriyama made his universe. He based it off the Chinese turned Japanese philosophy of ki, and that, my friend, is how ki works.
Tha gaol agam ort. <3
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Tim
Oct 22 2012, 07:29 AM
crashbreaka
Oct 22 2012, 06:45 AM
Only if you believe in that kind of thing. Scientifically you body moves from signals coming from your brain which cause your muscles to contract.

Sometimes I feel like the nerd of DBZF :T_T:
Trust me, i'm the nerd.

Short Summary on how your muscles work


There are however numerous ways you can amp up your muscles. For example, provide electrical stimulation can cause a muscle to reach what is called tetanus which causes a much stronger contraction than you could have done stimulating the muscle voluntarily.

The idea of 'ki' could well be based on something like this - so who knows really :)
The sad thing is I did know all that :p I was just trying to simplify. On a side note, are you from New Zealand? Smart people live here.

Also, don't try to give yourselves Tetanic Contractions guys, your muscles might contract mightily but it is pretty bad for you, and you might start smelling like ham (totally haven't done it to myself)

It could be that when a person uses 'ki' they are forcing their adrenal gland to secrete Epinephrine (adrenaline, for all those people who don't like science :@ ), which in turn increases your respiratory rate, making more blood flow through the muscles which in turn gives the impression of increased strength.

A person under an adrenaline rush has been shown to be able to kick at 60 mph, which is easily enough to smash through cement bricks etc.

Sadly, ki hasn't been able to be scientifically explained, other than the possibility it isn't real. :T_T: Personally I think the the idea has merit.

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