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Villain as a good guy?
Topic Started: Oct 18 2012, 12:34 AM (1,253 Views)
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Which villain would you want to be a good guy the most? They could come back however you like, be it someone who randomly had a change of heart like Dabura did in heaven or being wished back as a good person like Uub.
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The idea of Dabura, who was modeled after the popular conception of Lucifer, turning into a good guy was always hilarious to me. Which is good, it's Toriyama's classic Monty Python-esque irony in his humor. Of course he only turned good for Toriyama to make that joke, but not for any plot reasons.

I really can't think of any villains turning good that haven't already. Pilaf might be an interesting one to toy around with.
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The best choice would obviously be Cell. He would most likely fit in the most with them and would give them a good ally.

Who I would personally like to see would be Janemba. Even though that's like impossible :p
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yah i wanna see broly. get at me haters
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I approve of both Cell and Janemba as good guys
Especially Cell :3
I can really see it happening, actually, despite my fangirlism.
He's mindset is not much different than Vegeta's, who wanted to prove himself as a warrior. I think, given the right opportunities, Cell would have made a really interesting good guy.
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the bad guy is destroying all the good guys so cell sucks everyone up and has so much power he blows up along with the entire universe. toriyama laughs as the entire movie theatre sits there wondering wtf just happend
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I never really got how he was such a prat in the first place. He's got cells from all the good guys!
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Oct 18 2012, 02:05 AM
I never really got how he was such a prat in the first place. He's got cells from all the good guys!
Not really.

Good Guy cells

- Goku

Bad Guy cells

- Piccolo
- Vegeta
- Freeza
- Cold
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Oct 18 2012, 02:09 AM
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Oct 18 2012, 02:05 AM
I never really got how he was such a prat in the first place. He's got cells from all the good guys!
Not really.

Good Guy cells

- Goku

Bad Guy cells

- Piccolo
- Vegeta
- Freeza
- Cold
He also has Krillins.

But I think 17 would be good villain as a good guy. He seems to be the most willing to change, and just loves living life. He's not really even evil, he just likes to have fun.
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Id want to see Nappa. Nappa has always been my second favorite Saiyan (after Vegeta).
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Oct 18 2012, 02:15 AM
He also has Krillins.

But I think 17 would be good villain as a good guy. He seems to be the most willing to change, and just loves living life. He's not really even evil, he just likes to have fun.
Manga-wise, he's only confirmed to have those 5, IIRC.

17 would be nice as a good guy, but he kinda already became one, wouldn't ya think?
Edited by Kyouks, Oct 18 2012, 07:45 AM.
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Cell's Angel

Kyouka Suigetsu
Oct 18 2012, 02:09 AM
crashbreaka
Oct 18 2012, 02:05 AM
I never really got how he was such a prat in the first place. He's got cells from all the good guys!
Not really.

Good Guy cells

- Goku

Bad Guy cells

- Piccolo
- Vegeta
- Freeza
- Cold


Having Vegeta and Piccolo help his case. They were both bad guys and then they turned good. He shows a lot of the Saiyans determination to grow strong and to prove his strength. Vegeta and Goku also exhibit this need several times and it doesn't stop them from being good. Of course to Vegeta it came later, but as I said we've been shown it can happen so I don't see why it couldn't with Cell.
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^Not denying that it couldn't happen with Cell, but I was trying to make a point for Cell starting out evil despite having good guy cells (there's also Gero's programming. :3 )

Anyways, a good guy Cell would be interesting to say the least. I wonder how his "I'm perfect" personality would turn out (once he's a good guy). I don't think he'd ditch that belief, really.
He could be more of a reclusive good guy, I guess, showing up just to defend Earth or whatever with the others, but then never really socializing with the rest of the gang. More mysterious kinda thing.
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Oct 18 2012, 08:10 AM
^Not denying that it couldn't happen with Cell, but I was trying to make a point for Cell starting out evil despite having good guy cells (there's also Gero's programming. :3 )

Anyways, a good guy Cell would be interesting to say the least. I wonder how his "I'm perfect" personality would turn out (once he's a good guy). I don't think he'd ditch that belief, really.
He could be more of a reclusive good guy, I guess, showing up just to defend Earth or whatever with the others, but then never really socializing with the rest of the gang. More mysterious kinda thing.
I realized once I made my post that it might look like I was saying you were against him being a bad guy. Which isn't what I was trying to do. Just using it as evidence that he could be good. Actually, when the collected Piccolo's cells he was already on the way to being a good guy pretty much. It was pre-Frieza saga. After his time with Gohan he was pretty much good I believe. And they collected them around the Saiyan saga I would think, when Vegeta came. Or maybe even Cold was on Earth with Frieza since that was the only time they could have collected it. So I think Piccolo should be on the good guy list.

Anyway, this isn't about that lol I got carried away

But yeah, I don't see him as much of a talkative person to the rest of the group. And some of the gang would probably feel uncomfortable around him anyway. He would be more of a recluse and probably training a lot or something. He would probably be just as upset as Vegeta about not being the strongest.

In fact, he might just fly off. Because of Frieza's cells he can breath in space (although didn't Vegeta train out there too or was that simulation or something? I remember him being on an asteroid.) But regardless, he could just pick up and leave to train or find fights on other planets.
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Yeah Cell would be my answer as well. He loves to prove himself as a fighter by fighting strong opponents, and I guess he would fit just right in the Z fighters.
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