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| Piccolo (Trunks Saga) vs Base Goku (Frieza Saga) | |
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| + Kyouks | Oct 16 2012, 10:44 PM Post #16 |
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Problem with that is both of 'em were scared to death of Freeza at this point still, including that Freeza. I've changed my stance on this anyways, though, Piccolo wins. |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 17 2012, 03:02 AM Post #17 |
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They both knew Freeza could power up further, though, I'm sure. |
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| + Kyouks | Oct 17 2012, 03:53 AM Post #18 |
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I think they actually did based on what Gohan said, so yeah, you have a point. Plus Piccolo felt OF's 50%... |
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| Kblo247 | Oct 17 2012, 04:40 AM Post #19 |
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Yeah Yamcha was like oh spit. Tien was like I'm with you but I'm going man up in front of my bromance partner. Krillin and Piccolo knew 50%, heck Frieza killed one and would have killed the other if he wasn't Namekian. Vegeta gets revived and although he doesn't see them up close in the manga, he damn sure could likely feel their power. Gohan was just the one to point out that they were only looking at the tip, and not the whole iceberg, which shocked Yamcha and Tien, but the other three knew all too well thus the sneaking along a mountain to sneak attack the Supressed Frieza. They had one shot without Goku and that was strategy which would call for those 4 to kill em off while their guard and pl were down. Edited by Kblo247, Oct 17 2012, 04:41 AM.
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Oct 17 2012, 08:01 AM Post #20 |
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yeah, the nail fusion added 40,00 to piccolos power, but he was only about 13,000 prior to that. He was pretty weak, and being stopped by second form frieza then beat down by third form should be a clear indication he wasnt on the level. Goku in base fought final form frieza and his kaioken got him up to 50%. Ok, ok, without kaioken piccolo would win, but i still think the post ginyu/goku zenkai would give him an edge. goku was alot stronger in base after the beatdown from kuririn and gohan. Ginyu had it right. i mean we can assume that piccolo and vegeta were training while goku was gone. But goku wasnt gone all that long. thats a dramatic increase of power and not to mention that in trunks time, when goku killed frieza, he IT'd to earth and handled the issue. Goku was just being dumb and noticed that a power close to his own took out frieza. There is no other reason to believe that goku purposefullly mistook that huge power for an improved piccolo or vegeta. He didnt know WHAT to expect, as was obvious when feeling trunks ki, but not able to tell the differenc between people like goku could later in the future. So really im tempted to chop this up as user error on gokus part with the power sensing ,he honestly should have known that ki belonged to someone else. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Oct 17 2012, 08:02 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Oct 17 2012, 07:38 PM Post #21 |
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I think Goku assumed Piccolo or Vegeta took out the threat because they were the strongest ones there. He probably thought they were either suppressing their power or that they'd found some way to magnify it when he actually encountered them. |
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Oct 17 2012, 08:37 PM Post #22 |
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of course that would be his thought, but considering how he got so good at identification through ki seeking in the near future, it almost seems as if being ABLE to identify is a retconned ability. As opposed to just being able to sense HUGE powers on the other side of the world like in frieza saga. |
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| Kblo247 | Oct 18 2012, 05:24 AM Post #23 |
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His ki sense being magnified by learning IT really screws up him not knowing that wasn't Vegeta or Piccolo as he had plenty of time to learn their energy signatures from his past battles with them and their fight on Namek with Frieza while he healed. I guess you can say he didn't ay attention to anything but Fireza and Cold disappearing and ignored Trunks ssj power, since Frieza never did power up in his fight with Trunks. They were both killed while suppressed. So he must have thought the suppressed energy he felt from Vegeta and Piccolo was enough to kill that said suppression of the father and son. I mean Vegeta and Piccolo weren't powered up, but they didn't have their powers pushed down to 0 anymore when the scouter wearing goons were taken care of either. It was just all around confusing because if you go with Goku, both men have to have better strength than his base without Kaioken, which means they are stronger than base Trunks too. And that essentially fits said plot of Vegeta becoming the strongest despite having ssj the shortest time and him fighting Piccolo in his ssj form in the manga,as well as Piccolo knowing what ssj Goku was fully capable of to see he wasn't right at 19 Him making that mistake of reading their powers is weird because he can seek Roshi out so clearly to show off IT and Roshi isn't even in the top 10 on the planet Edited by Kblo247, Oct 18 2012, 05:26 AM.
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| + miguelnuva | Oct 18 2012, 06:16 AM Post #24 |
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Goku just makes a guess because Piccolo and Vegeta were the strongest after him, Vegeta had a big gap and Piccolo had an even bigger gap to over come to reach Namek Base Goku let alone the stronger Yardrat Goku. Goku uses SSJ because Piccolo needed to get as strong as a SSJ and Vegeta only surpassed Goku a little in the Android saga. Vegeta trained at 300 t0 450x Earth's gravity while Goku had to catch Piccolo up to SSJ level and train Gohan Vegeta getting stronger was more or less expected. |
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