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| Mecha Frieza 100% vs Goku SSJ Namek | |
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Oct 13 2012, 08:34 PM Post #16 |
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Most of the fight between him and Goku were filler. In the manga, Frieza rarely gave Goku trouble. Anyway Goku stomps 100% Mecha Frieza. Even Cold teaming up with him isn't enough to bring the legendary super saiyan to his knees. |
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| + Kyouks | Oct 13 2012, 08:37 PM Post #17 |
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Organic Freeza wasn't even in stomping range at Namek Goku; why would he be able to stomp Mecha Freeza?
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Oct 13 2012, 08:44 PM Post #18 |
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Okay I take that back. Let me rephrase what I said. I don't think Goku will stomp Mecha Frieza, but I still have him winning this match. I don't know why all of you are saying that Frieza wins this fight. I doubt a few mechanical etachments can put 100% Mecha Frieza at Namek SSJ Goku tier. Cold teaming up with Frieza won't do anything good either because he's obviously in his second form. Edited by Super Gogito, Oct 13 2012, 08:46 PM.
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| + Pyrus | Oct 13 2012, 08:46 PM Post #19 |
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It was stated. What grounds do you have to doubt it? |
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Oct 13 2012, 08:49 PM Post #20 |
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By who? Frieza? Edited by Super Gogito, Oct 13 2012, 08:53 PM.
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| + Kyouks | Oct 13 2012, 08:52 PM Post #21 |
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Yeh, by Freeza, and this one statement we have is better than just assuming IMO. Organic Freeza wasn't too far off from Namek Goku anyways, so Mecha Freeza, IMO, should at least be on par with Namek Goku. |
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Oct 13 2012, 08:57 PM Post #22 |
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Frieza can't even sense ki, what makes you guys think he can defeat Namek Goku? Because he says so? What kind of logic is that? Frieza thinks he can defeat Goku in 30 seconds if he powered up, and yet he still had his butt kicked by him. The point is that we can't just assume everything that Frieza says because he's arrogant, he thinks he's the most powerful person in the universe, and his arrogance boosted even more because he thinks his mechanical parts has made him strong enough to defeat Goku, even after he gave him a whooping of a lifetime.
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| Gotunks | Oct 13 2012, 09:44 PM Post #23 |
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uhmm, that is a bit of an over estimation, lets say it was filler and 100% frieza was 120 000 000, cyborg frieza was still a whole lot stronger, I'd say 1, 3 times at the least, 120 000 000x1, 3=156 000 000, plus he has cyborg stamina, if he even went 1, 2 times stronger (144 000 000) goku is 150 000 000 on namek, frieza still dont easily go down without a huge fight, no matter how you look at it, mecha frieza can take ssj namek goku, and the chance he will win is more then 65% |
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| Hurry My Curry | Oct 13 2012, 10:01 PM Post #24 |
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Fighting your opponent gives you a good estimate of their power as Ginyu showed. |
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| Gotunks | Oct 13 2012, 10:02 PM Post #25 |
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and no one can this agree with me now, trunks took frieza in a flash and king cold, and he didnt even try, and he was still not able to even scratch goku, AND, goku said it took him a year to learn the instant transmission, if so, he had little time to fisacally train, and the only power boost he had i think was a recovery from the frieza fight, and if frieza stood no chance, its impossible for goku to even increase more then 1, 3 times, meaning trunks saga goku was not much stronger then namek goku, i think trunks is on par with namek goku, meaning goku is not far from frieza, thats the only thing i have to back up the theory that goku stands a chance against mecha frieza |
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| + Kyouks | Oct 13 2012, 10:12 PM Post #26 |
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This is how it essentially works: In his head, Freeza thought, "The SSJ is godstomping me at 50%; I can do the same at 100%! So let's go for it", and he even did well until he lost power. By that time, he knows what kind of damage Goku was able to do to his 100% self. Based on the power of his 'Mecha form', he must've deduced "I can probably do the same thing Goku did to my old self now, perhaps even more," otherwise not even Freeza would come to that conclusion. Chi sensing isn't everything, and it's better logic than just assuming Freeza is wrong. |
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Oct 13 2012, 10:44 PM Post #27 |
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So basically what you're saying is that Mecha Frieza knew he can beat Goku because he knows what he's capable of as a super saiyan? |
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| + Kyouks | Oct 13 2012, 10:45 PM Post #28 |
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Kinda. Freeza knows what Goku did to his old self, and based on his new power, he must've figured he could at least do the same thing. |
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Oct 13 2012, 11:05 PM Post #29 |
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But how does Frieza know how powerful he got? Again, this goes back to point, Frieza can't just assume that he can defeat Goku without making sure. This all comes back to scouters or ki sensing. Edited by Super Gogito, Oct 13 2012, 11:06 PM.
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| + Kyouks | Oct 13 2012, 11:06 PM Post #30 |
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It's his own power, he should know. Otherwise he wouldn't have said he could. |
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