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Daizenshuu Misconceptions
Topic Started: Oct 12 2012, 06:54 PM (5,370 Views)
+ Pyrus Oct 15 2012, 05:32 PM Post #61
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Paikuan extreme
Oct 15 2012, 05:15 PM
you have no proof whatsoever toei didnt produce those books

I'm pretty sure his first post proves it, so either you didn't read it or you forgot.
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and if they didnt until daiz 6?

then they really are just personal opinion written by fans.

I don't see how. Was this not covered already?
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he did not leave the anime to toei pyrus, derp, he CREATED ALL THE CHARACTERS, he designed everyone from broly to pikkon. So...what?!!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/production/toriyama/#dbz

http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8308141/1/#new

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GridZero Oct 15 2012, 05:32 PM Post #62
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Paikuan extreme
Oct 15 2012, 05:15 PM
GridZero
Oct 15 2012, 02:10 PM
Anime is not a direct adaptation.

It creates holes in the plot. You can't just ignore those.

And no, the Daiz is not a guidebook for the anime until Daizenshuu 6.

Toei literally had no contributions to the Daiz until 6 and 7, so your logic crumbles again.
where is that dislike button again?

you have no proof whatsoever toei didnt produce those books, and if they didnt until daiz 6?

then they really are just personal opinion written by fans.

cant believe you fell for that. LOL. you proved my point for me.

he did not leave the anime to toei pyrus, derp, he CREATED ALL THE CHARACTERS, he designed everyone from broly to pikkon. So...what?!!
Toei isn't listed in the credits of the books until Daizenshuu 6. If they were truly involved, they would've had their names in the credits of 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.

But they don't.

The editor listed for the Daiz literally worked with Toriyama on DB and DBZ.

It isn't ''fan opinion.''

Sooner you get it through your head, sooner we can be done.
Edited by GridZero, Oct 15 2012, 05:47 PM.
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lunar2 Oct 15 2012, 06:44 PM Post #63
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 there is absolutely no use arguing with ninja. you can show him where the exact opposite of his opinion is stated, and he will dismiss it as irrelevant and continue to repeat the same things.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

list of non canon sources:

everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

for those that blindly follow word of god
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GridZero Oct 15 2012, 06:48 PM Post #64
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lunar2
Oct 15 2012, 06:44 PM
there is absolutely no use arguing with ninja. you can show him where the exact opposite of his opinion is stated, and he will dismiss it as irrelevant and continue to repeat the same things.
Love this post.

And you're definitely right.
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Paikuan extreme Oct 15 2012, 09:09 PM Post #65
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Oct 15 2012, 05:32 PM
Paikuan extreme
Oct 15 2012, 05:15 PM
you have no proof whatsoever toei didnt produce those books

I'm pretty sure his first post proves it, so either you didn't read it or you forgot.
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and if they didnt until daiz 6?

then they really are just personal opinion written by fans.

I don't see how. Was this not covered already?
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he did not leave the anime to toei pyrus, derp, he CREATED ALL THE CHARACTERS, he designed everyone from broly to pikkon. So...what?!!

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/production/toriyama/#dbz

http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8308141/1/#new

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it was covered needlessly to prove an invalid point, that the guidebooks were not written by people directly involved with the creation of the manga.

so...yeah.

The guidebooks are clearly for the adaptation, to claim they arent makes no sense. The manga isnt what got the attention, the adaptation for television did however.

The cartoon eps for DB and DBZ were personally produced by toriyama, AND THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED ON THE ANIME.

How it is you thought you proved they helped develop ideas and worked on the manga from that is beyond me.

people that helped create the anime= people personally involved, NO ONE has any shared billing with AT on the manga, even in part, his story, his drawings, his editing.

How is this even being argued? of course the guidebooks are for the anime and videogames, its RIDICULOUS to think otherwise.
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GridZero Oct 15 2012, 09:37 PM Post #66
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How is the Daiz a guidebook for the video games when it came out before them?

You fool.

And how is it a guide for the anime when the anime isn't even mentioned until Daizenshuu 6?
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+ Clearin Oct 15 2012, 09:45 PM Post #67
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 Guidebooks are made for Manga and anime. They use manga pictures in them and in the character bios they put a separate box for anime only events.
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+ Pyrus Oct 15 2012, 10:06 PM Post #68
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 I can't even believe the video games are being brought up. That's why there's V-Jump. Daizenshuu is for MANGA and ANIME. I don't know why this is so hard to comprehend when it's blatantly obvious by the content of the books themselves, or I must've missed all the video game sections. Looks like sniffing for ways to get out of it to me.
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Hurry My Curry Oct 15 2012, 10:56 PM Post #69
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 How do people get this bull***** idea that the anime made DBZ popular? For it to be aired on TV, it has to be famous in the first place no?
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GridZero Oct 15 2012, 10:56 PM Post #70
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Oct 15 2012, 10:56 PM
How do people get this bull***** idea that the anime made DBZ popular? For it to be aired on TV, it has to be famous in the first place no?
Of course it did, LOL.

Garbage logic is garbage logic.
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+ Kyouks Oct 15 2012, 10:58 PM Post #71
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 It's also been proven that DB was going to end after Pilaf, but AT kept going to make it popular.

A fan even begged him to continue 3 years after Piccolo, IIRC. That ***** was *****ing famous.
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* -Zero- Oct 16 2012, 12:18 AM Post #72
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Guys keep it cool. Don't think it's useful arguing with anyone then simply do not do it. There is no reason to mention it what do ever, no need to call anyone fools, no need to calm anything ridiculous. Don't like arguing with someone then don't skip over their post, if that person attacks you for doing so, report it. It's simple and will avoid things getting out if hand.


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