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Topic Started: Oct 9 2012, 09:19 PM (2,256 Views)
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Oct 9 2012, 11:48 PM
broly tanked a fp khh and died from a sock to the gut, inconsistent LOL.
It was stated to be a miracle of blows, or other would like to call it a toei punch
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NO, thats an opinion based on herms inability to explain what happened. Goku charged to full power and did what z fighters always do, concentrate on one spot and put their hands through it. Broly is not invulnerable.

Nor does it make sense to have him be stronger than perfect cell when they have pulled the same feats against the comparably same goku. Sorry.
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Oct 9 2012, 11:57 PM
NO, thats an opinion based on herms inability to explain what happened. Goku charged to full power and did what z fighters always do, concentrate on one spot and put their hands through it. Broly is not invulnerable.

Nor does it make sense to have him be stronger than perfect cell when they have pulled the same feats against the comparably same goku. Sorry.
he tanks a kamehameha which 4x, powers up 2 times.

thats a toei moment, toei punch or some people like to call it a dragonfist

lol perfect cell

rssj broly FP>>RSSJ broly enrage>>Rssj broly king kai sense=cell true speed=>mssj kid gohan>cell powered up=>mssj goku

perfect cell you say ?

Rssj broly can wreck cell lol, good job keep going im taking my time with you
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Oct 9 2012, 11:53 PM
M10 Broly >>>>> SPC, for sure.

What's your point?

Give me reasons for your poop SSJ3 multiplier.
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Oct 10 2012, 12:12 AM
free willie
Oct 9 2012, 11:53 PM
M10 Broly >>>>> SPC, for sure.

What's your point?

Give me reasons for your poop SSJ3 multiplier.
ssj to ssj2 is 4-5x am i correct ?

then ssj2 to ssj3 would be lower since it didn't have to same impact as ssj2 did.

so it would be 2-3x of ssj2. i dont see how it coming close to 4-5x when i cant one shot or come even close to one shot
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If anything, it had a bigger impact....
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Oct 10 2012, 12:20 AM
If anything, it had a bigger impact....
youve got to be bloody joking right, go ahead and prove then
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He powered up and the world basically almost broke (Goku).

Also, SSJ3 Goku is moderately stronger than Fat Boo who is far stronger than Grey Boo who is far stronger than Good Boo who is far stronger than SSJ2 Goku/Vegeta. How is that only a 2x-3x gap?
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Oct 9 2012, 11:49 PM
fat buu BEST ATTACK cant even take out a ssj2

Babidi must be even higher than SSjin2 tier using your logic since he survived without a scratch.
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and kid buu couldn't keep vegeta down

Filler. Boo knocks him silly in the manga from the getgo.
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when spc one shot vegeta with his hands.

Vegeta was still a SSjin after being "one-shotted," so...
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Janemba is the only ssj3 level character that one shot a ssj2, and he didn't do it in the best of ways either. hirudigarn is the 2nd with 2 shotting vegeta and broly is 3rd with 3 shotting a ssj2.

This is such a garbage argument to use in the Boo Saga. There are only two instances of that happening the entire saga: SSjin2 Majin Vegeta one-shotting the kids, and Gotenks-Boo one-shotting Tenshinhan. Base Kid Trunks survived a sucker punch from Super Boo. Base Vegeta survived multiple hits from Kid Boo. Were the gaps incredibly small in those instances because those guys weren't one-shotted?
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Ssj to Ssj2 is a bigger multiplier then ssj2 to ssj3

Base Gotenks (pre) ~ SSjin2 Goku, SSjin Gotenks (pre) ~ SSjin3 Goku. Is SSjin a 2-3x boost now?
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Oct 10 2012, 12:43 AM
He powered up and the world basically almost broke (Goku).

Also, SSJ3 Goku is moderately stronger than Fat Boo who is far stronger than Grey Boo who is far stronger than Good Boo who is far stronger than SSJ2 Goku/Vegeta. How is that only a 2x-3x gap?
Yea, paragus said if broly doesn't stop powering up he could destroy the planet, goku in nameki saga powered up and the whole solar system started to bright up. krillin said cell full power can destroy it.

so ssj3 goku making the world shake or breaking it is not a big deal at all. unless it was gt lol


grey buu, good buu and ssj2 goku and vegeta are all in the same realm of power. but just higher percentages.






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Oct 10 2012, 12:03 AM
Paikuan extreme
Oct 9 2012, 11:57 PM
NO, thats an opinion based on herms inability to explain what happened. Goku charged to full power and did what z fighters always do, concentrate on one spot and put their hands through it. Broly is not invulnerable.

Nor does it make sense to have him be stronger than perfect cell when they have pulled the same feats against the comparably same goku. Sorry.
he tanks a kamehameha which 4x, powers up 2 times.

thats a toei moment, toei punch or some people like to call it a dragonfist

lol perfect cell

rssj broly FP>>RSSJ broly enrage>>Rssj broly king kai sense=cell true speed=>mssj kid gohan>cell powered up=>mssj goku

perfect cell you say ?

Rssj broly can wreck cell lol, good job keep going im taking my time with you
whats an RSSJ broly? that doesnt make sense.

Cell also had various stages of his power up as well. A comparably same strength level goku is what does the math here.

what is this x4 multiplier you have for? goku could only go maximum for a longer amount of time and no ki wastage.

since when can goku multiply his peak power by 4x and have it not make a difference against a guy he put his HAND through?

Telling me what broly did makes no diff. Goku didnt full power kame blast full power cell VS gohan.

Broly tanked a comparably full charged blast at broly and broly shrugged it off. yet could not survive a full power focused attack punch? Nevermind, miracle piercing techniques have only been around since the introduction of the makkansappo.

Moves that only concentrate on one spot mind you, and piccolo NEVER elevated his level, it was just that his overall power level being less than two times that of raditz, made it so that raditz was not comparably invulnerable to piccolos power.

All broly would have to be is 1.5 x gokus max power and he can walk through any KHH blast he wants to.

oh, oops :blush:

and yes to any who have asked themselves what i mean, the KHH blast is more of a kiai blast, it engulfs you and burns you alive.

If goku had used the makkansappo on broly no one would have questioned why he died.
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Oct 10 2012, 01:21 AM
Kyouka Suigetsu
Oct 10 2012, 12:43 AM
He powered up and the world basically almost broke (Goku).

Also, SSJ3 Goku is moderately stronger than Fat Boo who is far stronger than Grey Boo who is far stronger than Good Boo who is far stronger than SSJ2 Goku/Vegeta. How is that only a 2x-3x gap?
Yea, paragus said if broly doesn't stop powering up he could destroy the planet, goku in nameki saga powered up and the whole solar system started to bright up. krillin said cell full power can destroy it.

so ssj3 goku making the world shake or breaking it is not a big deal at all. unless it was gt lol


grey buu, good buu and ssj2 goku and vegeta are all in the same realm of power. but just higher percentages.






Fat Boo maimed Vegeta with one attack. Vegeta didn't even attempt to continue the fight after that. Grey Boo inherited most of that power. I don't see how they're in the same realm of power.
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Oct 10 2012, 01:17 AM
free willie
Oct 9 2012, 11:49 PM
fat buu BEST ATTACK cant even take out a ssj2

Babidi must be even higher than SSjin2 tier using your logic since he survived without a scratch.
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and kid buu couldn't keep vegeta down

Filler. Boo knocks him silly in the manga from the getgo.
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when spc one shot vegeta with his hands.

Vegeta was still a SSjin after being "one-shotted," so...
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Janemba is the only ssj3 level character that one shot a ssj2, and he didn't do it in the best of ways either. hirudigarn is the 2nd with 2 shotting vegeta and broly is 3rd with 3 shotting a ssj2.

This is such a garbage argument to use in the Boo Saga. There are only two instances of that happening the entire saga: SSjin2 Majin Vegeta one-shotting the kids, and Gotenks-Boo one-shotting Tenshinhan. Base Kid Trunks survived a sucker punch from Super Boo. Base Vegeta survived multiple hits from Kid Boo. Were the gaps incredibly small in those instances because those guys weren't one-shotted?
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Ssj to Ssj2 is a bigger multiplier then ssj2 to ssj3

Base Gotenks (pre) ~ SSjin2 Goku, SSjin Gotenks (pre) ~ SSjin3 Goku. Is SSjin a 2-3x boost now?
Babidi must be even higher than SSjin2 tier using your logic since he survived without a scratch.
- he did shield himself so yea, i dont know why you would bring that up
Filler. Boo knocks him silly in the manga from the getgo.
- thats awesome and all, but still didn't one shot, he chocked him to finished him
Vegeta was still a SSjin after being "one-shotted," so...
- yea and after how many hits did vegeta go back base against kid buu and how many did it take for spc to take vegeta out. or how many hits did it take for broly to take out vegeta.
This is such a garbage argument to use in the Boo Saga. There are only two instances of that happening the entire saga: SSjin2 Majin Vegeta one-shotting the kids, and Gotenks-Boo one-shotting Tenshinhan. Base Kid Trunks survived a sucker punch from Super Boo. Base Vegeta survived multiple hits from Kid Boo. Were the gaps incredibly small in those instances because those guys weren't one-shotted?
- does it look like toei is basing there fights on plots and luck. videl survived against hirudigarn and broly, veku last 30 min against janemba. try to tell the difference buddy between a plot and a real fight
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Ssj to Ssj2 is a bigger multiplier then ssj2 to ssj3

Base Gotenks (pre) ~ SSjin2 Goku, SSjin Gotenks (pre) ~ SSjin3 Goku. Is SSjin a 2-3x boost now?
does it look like im basing it on fusion multiplier. and yea buddy im talking about ssj to ssj2 and ssj2 to ssj3 not base to ssj which is a whole alot different then both. stick to the point of the debate.
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Oct 10 2012, 01:26 AM
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Oct 10 2012, 12:03 AM
Paikuan extreme
Oct 9 2012, 11:57 PM
NO, thats an opinion based on herms inability to explain what happened. Goku charged to full power and did what z fighters always do, concentrate on one spot and put their hands through it. Broly is not invulnerable.

Nor does it make sense to have him be stronger than perfect cell when they have pulled the same feats against the comparably same goku. Sorry.
he tanks a kamehameha which 4x, powers up 2 times.

thats a toei moment, toei punch or some people like to call it a dragonfist

lol perfect cell

rssj broly FP>>RSSJ broly enrage>>Rssj broly king kai sense=cell true speed=>mssj kid gohan>cell powered up=>mssj goku

perfect cell you say ?

Rssj broly can wreck cell lol, good job keep going im taking my time with you
whats an RSSJ broly? that doesnt make sense.

Cell also had various stages of his power up as well. A comparably same strength level goku is what does the math here.

what is this x4 multiplier you have for? goku could only go maximum for a longer amount of time and no ki wastage.

since when can goku multiply his peak power by 4x and have it not make a difference against a guy he put his HAND through?

Telling me what broly did makes no diff. Goku didnt full power kame blast full power cell VS gohan.

Broly tanked a comparably full charged blast at broly and broly shrugged it off. yet could not survive a full power focused attack punch? Nevermind, miracle piercing techniques have only been around since the introduction of the makkansappo.

Moves that only concentrate on one spot mind you, and piccolo NEVER elevated his level, it was just that his overall power level being less than two times that of raditz, made it so that raditz was not comparably invulnerable to piccolos power.

All broly would have to be is 1.5 x gokus max power and he can walk through any KHH blast he wants to.

oh, oops :blush:

and yes to any who have asked themselves what i mean, the KHH blast is more of a kiai blast, it engulfs you and burns you alive.

If goku had used the makkansappo on broly no one would have questioned why he died.
whats an RSSJ broly? that doesnt make sense.

- Restricted super saiyan

Cell also had various stages of his power up as well. A comparably same strength level goku is what does the math here.
- and so did broly

what is this x4 multiplier you have for? goku could only go maximum for a longer amount of time and no ki wastage.
- ???? what are you talking about

since when can goku multiply his peak power by 4x and have it not make a difference against a guy he put his HAND through?

- the kamehameha peaked over 4x not himself

Telling me what broly did makes no diff. Goku didnt full power kame blast full power cell VS gohan.
- well lets see, does it look like gohan is trying to destroy the universe for goku to take it serious. really men

Broly tanked a comparably full charged blast at broly and broly shrugged it off. yet could not survive a full power focused attack punch? Nevermind, miracle piercing techniques have only been around since the introduction of the makkansappo.
- to toei, it is called a toei punched or some people like to call it a dragonfist.

Moves that only concentrate on one spot mind you, and piccolo NEVER elevated his level, it was just that his overall power level being less than two times that of raditz, made it so that raditz was not comparably invulnerable to piccolos power.

- and what does that have to do with broly, please i hope your not saying that was not a toei moment.

All broly would have to be is 1.5 x gokus max power and he can walk through any KHH blast he wants to.

- 1.5x ??? why would the kamehameha be 1.5x when in saiyan saga it 2.2x plus they are super saiyans and can put alot more power into it

oh, oops :blush:

and yes to any who have asked themselves what i mean, the KHH blast is more of a kiai blast, it engulfs you and burns you alive.

If goku had used the makkansappo on broly no one would have questioned why he died.

Bro how old are you ?
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