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Why did Goku not transform n Coolers Revenge
Topic Started: Oct 8 2012, 02:52 AM (862 Views)
SSJ
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It seemed strange to me that Goku was trying to use Kaioken vs Cooler, when we know that he can transform at will.
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probably just to make it dramatic, if Goku transformed at the very start he wouldve finnished cooler in a matter of seconds. just like the movie Wrath of the Dragon.
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The movie was released before the Trunks Saga was in the manga, so TOEI simply assumed that SSJ always needed anger to work.
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Kyouka Suigetsu
Oct 8 2012, 03:06 AM
The movie was released before the Trunks Saga was in the manga, so TOEI simply assumed that SSJ always needed anger to work.
I see, I really need t read the manga to gain some knowledge :(
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Not really, I just happened to know the dates each was released (I actually can't remember the dates right now, but I know Cooler came first). :)
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See my problem is that I've only seen the anime. I must have seen 2000+ episodes collectively, but I'm not well versed n the manga, DB, or DBGT
Edited by SSJ, Oct 8 2012, 01:38 PM.
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Honestly he wasn't really angry when he transformed. He just knew he needed to take it up a notch. Vegeta didn't really need anger to transform and he did it fine.
I put it down to
1) SSJ transformation is energy consuming, so he wanted to save it for if he really needed it, and
2) He is a Saiyan, he liked the challenge
Tha gaol agam ort. <3
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I kind of disagree.^

Piccolo was basically dead, Krillin was beat up, and his son was KO'd. Animals were dying right in front of him. I think he was angry.
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Yeah, and Goku was getting buttwhooped. It was either get whooped or do the whooping; I doubt he'd question whether he should stay in base for the challenge or not. Saiyans like kicking a**, too, ya know.

It makes the most sense coupled together with the release dates, anyways.

His dialogue also seems to suggest that he was pretty pissed.
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Wait, sorry. I was thinking of when Goku fought Metal Cooler. My bad. (It's why I mentioned Vegeta)
Yes, he needed to be angry in Cooler's Revenge.
Tha gaol agam ort. <3
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The fact that it was implied that Goku killed Frieza with no mention of Trunks definitely shows Toei didn't know what was going to happen later on.

Perhaps it could take place in Trunks' timeline where Goku kills Mecha Frieza and Cold although there is still the problem that Cooler makes no mention of King Cold.

The way I see it is that it exists in an alternate universe where Goku did kill Frieza on Namek and came straight back to earth without training in space so he couldn't transform at will.
"The future of Gohan. The Future of Chi Chi. Not to mention the future of the entire universe. It all depends on me!!!! And I don't care if you're a million times stronger than me! I'm not going to let them down! So get ready Frieza because this time you're going Down!!!"
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I'm assuming since it took place snot too long after the defeat of Freeza, he still lacked proper control over his SSJ powers.
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