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Base Vegetto vs. Buuhan(only Gohan absorbed)
Topic Started: Oct 7 2012, 08:20 PM (2,863 Views)
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No, it only came from the Earth/Namek/HFIL, IIRC.

Not the entire universe, lol.
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wait a minute, so then the universe didnt have power moving through it and collecting it? ok then X D
in the meantime if energy coming from new namek and of all places HFIL arent a sign of universal power coming together then you guys are already lost.

just wow.
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If it was universal power, why would the power of the humans matter so much?
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If power was not shown coming from an area, then it didn't come from that area.

Simple as that.

HFIL, Namek and Earth were the only places Goku got energy from.

Edit: And it's more of The Check-In Station than HFIL itself.
Edited by GridZero, Oct 8 2012, 10:06 PM.
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Paikuan extreme
Oct 8 2012, 09:38 PM
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Oct 8 2012, 07:07 PM
I wouldn't even give Gohan a 1.5x lead on Gotenks....the gap between Gotenks and Gohan should also be much smaller than the gap between Gotenks-Boo and Gohan.

But why are we debating this now? :x
Gotenks should have a healthy gap over Super Boo. He was pounding him to ***** at the end of their fight, so much so that Goku thought Gohan wouldn't even get a chance, and Gohan also was fine with them fighting again. Trunks said they would've won the fight had it continued, too. Other than Super Boo's claim that only Gohan surpassed him, which can be worked around, all the evidence points to Gotenks being the superior one IMO.

But yeah, Base Vegetto shouldn't be more powerful than Gohan-Boo. Nothing suggests this other than assumption based on him being, well, Vegetto; whereas the assumption that he transformed because he was too weak in Base actually melds together, I think.
its still just opinion, what gap could gotenks REALLy have with super boo? none really. This is also besides the fact that gotenks had ALREADY proven discorportation DID NOT WORK, so what could have gotenks done? what DID he do that gives you such faith in his power? Nothing.

It took gohans overwhelming power as ADMITTED by boo TWICE. He said if this power is stronger than mine then I CANT WIN, and i cant have that. NO WHERE IN THAT SENTENCE IN ADMITTING HIS FEAR ABOUT GOHAN DID HE EXHIBIT ANY APPREHENSION ABOUT GOTENKS.

He even USED gotenks to BEAT gohan bu fusing and stacking powers with gotenks.

so its cool you have all of this faith in gotenks, but he wasnt able to do anything definitive. Not like shown and STATED by boo and gohan.

superboo <<<gohan
gotenks<<gohan

it takes a FUSION of gotenks and super boo just to beat gohan. :@

and you guys dont have a considerable gap? >_<
Why are you trying to tell me what I think I think? :p I think Gotenks was stronger and I've already given my evidence as to why. You're also misunderstanding what happened in the RoSaT. Piccolo said they did it wrong, meaning they could've done it right, meaning Gotenks knew how to do it after that and would've gotten the job done like he said. :p There's no need for a Genki-Dama to defeat Boo when they figured out how to do it in the RoSaT.

Chapter: 495 (DBZ 301), P6.1-3, P7.1-3
Context: after Gotenks blasts Boo with the Rapid-Fire Die-Die Missiles and Piccolo stops him
Gotenks: “Well, whatever. I already did quite a lot, after all. He should be pretty weakened.”
*Boo comes out*
Gotenks: “…He ain’t weakened…This really pisses me off!”
Piccolo: “N-no…He is weakened…I don’t know about physically, but he’s weakened a little mentally…! Th-this is the first time…that he’s fought someone strong like you…He’s feeling flustered by someone whose strength is at least on par with his own…”
Gotenks: “Dehhehheh! So in other words, Majin Boo’s freaked out, huh!? That’s right! My strength ain’t half-assed! I’m the best in the universe!”
Piccolo: “Don’t let your guard down! He’ll be coming at you frantically now…!”
Gotenks: “Dahhahhah, that’s no problem, no problem at all! That’s just what I was hoping for!”

Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P1.3, P2.4
Context: after Gohan beats up on Boo
Gohan: “You can’t win…”
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Gohan: “I see…So you tried testing your power just to be sure, and I really was above you…That’s too bad, Majin Boo.”

Chapter: 499 (DBZ 305), P12.2-4
Gohan: “…That was dirty, you bastard…You ingested the two of them into yourself…”
Boo: “It’s your fault. You were stronger than I, who should have been the absolute strongest…When I sensed your distant presence, I started up on this strategy…In case maybe, just maybe, there was anyone stronger than myself…Then I hit upon it: if I absorbed that ‘Super Gotenks’ squirt I was fighting at the time, then no matter what kind of guy appeared, my throne as the strongest would not be shaken…”

Boo's last quote is contradicted by everything else about the fight. Do you think he was holding back against Gotenks to the point where he was at risk of being erased from existence? Even he wasn't that stupid IMO.
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Oct 8 2012, 10:06 PM
If power was not shown coming from an area, then it didn't come from that area.

Simple as that.

HFIL, Namek and Earth were the only places Goku got energy from.

Edit: And it's more of The Check-In Station than HFIL itself.
Agreed. Only three places were shown to be giving genki to the attack. If it was universal, it would've been like it was in the anime, where basically everybody we'd seen up to that point was shown giving energy.
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thats ridiculous logic to just assume it didnt mean the universe when it showed ALL OVER THE UNIVERSE people giving energy.

and gotenks is not stronger than boo, nor is he a threat to boo, he couldnt pull it off, you can explain till you are blue but the end result >>>opinion.

Gotenks failed, no excuses, if he had the definitive power like gohan did, destroying boo shouldnt have been an issue.

Piccolo wanted them to ssj fuse in there as he thought it was needed to reach maximum power, he didnt have a clue.
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IIRC Buuhan was punching Base Vegito and it did nothing, like 19 was punching SSJ Vegeta.
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Actually wait, I just watched the fight of Base Vegito and Buuhan, and Vegito was kicking his ***** lol.

Vegito > Buuhan
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that reason was for assurance

it is plausible that he could take him super buu in base

but we was not certain putting him close to buuhan

as for the fight i think its too close to call
Any proof that Vegetto is anywhere near Gohan-Buu without using the filler segment in the anime?
There's no possible other way to go about it without using the filler, if you think about it let's just say they were like this : Vegito (base)>= Buuhan, he went SSJ for an extra boost in power and to insure victory. In the manga he changes to SSJ as soon as he fuses, this could imply to either 2 things :

1. Vegito knew Buuhan's current power and decides to up the ante to SSJ.
2. Vegito would have even the fight out so he goes SSJ.
What I'm trying to say is that Buuhan couldn't have been that far apart from Base Vegito.

@ Victorious Unstoppable
Not trying to start nothing but can you provide proof that Buuhan wins against Vegito without SSJ? If you do I would love to see it thanks.
Even in the anime, Gohan-Buu states he is holding back, and then Vegetto transforms. It's conjecture on your part to say that Vegetto > Gohan-Buu without evidence. Why transform if he can get the job done in base?
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that reason was for assurance

it is plausible that he could take him super buu in base

but we was not certain putting him close to buuhan

as for the fight i think its too close to call
Any proof that Vegetto is anywhere near Gohan-Buu without using the filler segment in the anime?
There's no possible other way to go about it without using the filler, if you think about it let's just say they were like this : Vegito (base)>= Buuhan, he went SSJ for an extra boost in power and to insure victory. In the manga he changes to SSJ as soon as he fuses, this could imply to either 2 things :

1. Vegito knew Buuhan's current power and decides to up the ante to SSJ.
2. Vegito would have even the fight out so he goes SSJ.
What I'm trying to say is that Buuhan couldn't have been that far apart from Base Vegito.

@ Victorious Unstoppable
Not trying to start nothing but can you provide proof that Buuhan wins against Vegito without SSJ? If you do I would love to see it thanks.
Even in the anime, Gohan-Buu states he is holding back, and then Vegetto transforms. It's conjecture on your part to say that Vegetto > Gohan-Buu without evidence. Why transform if he can get the job done in base?
What point does it have to hold back when he knows that Vegito can transform beyond base?
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Oct 9 2012, 12:51 AM
thats ridiculous logic to just assume it didnt mean the universe when it showed ALL OVER THE UNIVERSE people giving energy.

and gotenks is not stronger than boo, nor is he a threat to boo, he couldnt pull it off, you can explain till you are blue but the end result >>>opinion.

Gotenks failed, no excuses, if he had the definitive power like gohan did, destroying boo shouldnt have been an issue.

Piccolo wanted them to ssj fuse in there as he thought it was needed to reach maximum power, he didnt have a clue.
By that logic, Boo > Vegetto and Gohan. :rofl:
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that reason was for assurance

it is plausible that he could take him super buu in base

but we was not certain putting him close to buuhan

as for the fight i think its too close to call
Any proof that Vegetto is anywhere near Gohan-Buu without using the filler segment in the anime?
There's no possible other way to go about it without using the filler, if you think about it let's just say they were like this : Vegito (base)>= Buuhan, he went SSJ for an extra boost in power and to insure victory. In the manga he changes to SSJ as soon as he fuses, this could imply to either 2 things :

1. Vegito knew Buuhan's current power and decides to up the ante to SSJ.
2. Vegito would have even the fight out so he goes SSJ.
What I'm trying to say is that Buuhan couldn't have been that far apart from Base Vegito.

@ Victorious Unstoppable
Not trying to start nothing but can you provide proof that Buuhan wins against Vegito without SSJ? If you do I would love to see it thanks.
Even in the anime, Gohan-Buu states he is holding back, and then Vegetto transforms. It's conjecture on your part to say that Vegetto > Gohan-Buu without evidence. Why transform if he can get the job done in base?
What point does it have to hold back when he knows that Vegito can transform beyond base?
Doesn't know that he can?
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Yes he does
He has seen Goku transform into SSJ3 in the anime, besides he has Gohan inside him he should know everything about the Saiyans that Gohan knows.
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thats ridiculous logic to just assume it didnt mean the universe when it showed ALL OVER THE UNIVERSE people giving energy.

and gotenks is not stronger than boo, nor is he a threat to boo, he couldnt pull it off, you can explain till you are blue but the end result >>>opinion.

Gotenks failed, no excuses, if he had the definitive power like gohan did, destroying boo shouldnt have been an issue.

Piccolo wanted them to ssj fuse in there as he thought it was needed to reach maximum power, he didnt have a clue.
By that logic, Boo > Vegetto and Gohan. :rofl:
thats not true, boo ATE gohan and vegetto, but if he owned them strength wise he wouldnt have been worried about them.
boohan told vegetto he wasnt strong enough to kill him, so its obvious boohan believed that vegetto couldnt transform.

vegetto transformed to show him it really makes no difference, vegetto at full power is overkill.
vegetto in ssj got the job done even easier than assumed. Nothings missing here.

assuming vegetto couldnt fight him in base because boo said he wasnt strong enough to kill him is splitting hairs, there is a difference because boo said there was, it wasnt the first time or the first form in which he said this either.

Base vegetto has what it takes i believe after a good fight, SSj is icing on the cake, he let boo know there was no hope of winning. If transforming didnt make that big of a difference boo would have mentioned that AFTER vegetto transformed instead of before, and then having his jaw dropped.
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