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SSjin 3 Gogeta vs. Gotenks-Boo
Topic Started: Oct 4 2012, 01:49 PM (8,066 Views)
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I don't understand..........How is a non-canon example any good in a canon debate?
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If Vegetto managed to beat the pulp out of Buuhan at SSJ.
SSJ3 Gogeta is very close to him if you would multiply his SS.

Super Janemba > Kid Buu & ~Super Buu
Super Gogeta one-shotted Janemba, what makes you think otherwise he wouldn't be able to transform in SS2 and go over Buutenks? Let alone SSJ3 over Buuhan.

Gogeta is non-canon, why should we give a flying duck about canon-stuff? All we can do is compare and theorise.
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Oct 4 2012, 11:01 PM
That solidifies nothing, if they wanted Gogeta SSJ3 the production team showed them, but Gogeta was already showed in the Movie earlier, Vegetto came in his place.
Even when they were inside Buu.

There has to be some othe reason for Gogeta not to be in the anime.

As Toriyama said, he had to do something else...something better, otherwise why not just use Gogeta again if the two were going to be practically the same strength?
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Oct 4 2012, 11:04 PM
Want to know the reason why Gogeta isn't in the anime?

He's too weak to beat Bootenks, even in SSJ3


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I couldn't hold it in at this. *****ing funny, dude.
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If Vegetto managed to beat the pulp out of Buuhan at SSJ.
SSJ3 Gogeta is very close to him if you would multiply his SS.

All you do is repeat this over and over and over, and give nothing to substantiate it. We've given numerous manga quotes and theories based on those quotes, yet you've just given that same answer continuously.
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Super Janemba > Kid Buu & ~Super Buu
Super Gogeta one-shotted Janemba, what makes you think otherwise he wouldn't be able to transform in SS2 and go over Buutenks? Let alone SSJ3 over Buuhan.

Because Janemba =/= Super Boo, silly rabbit.
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Gogeta is non-canon, why should we give a flying duck about canon-stuff? All we can do is compare and theorise.

Gogeta is non-canon, but he's still brought up in the manga. And like we've said countless times now, because Vegeta is the same strength in canon and non-canon, Gogeta would be the same strength.
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Oct 4 2012, 09:51 PM
Sorry for the double post, but lets see.

Abo and Cado. Completely irrelevant.

Toriyama didn't care. At that point, the level that Goku and Vegeta were at was pathetic when compared to the higher powers.
and the boys even more negligent than that, might be the real reason he(gotenks) could only fight boo and not dispose of him.

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Oct 4 2012, 11:08 PM
Slayerslice
Oct 4 2012, 11:01 PM
That solidifies nothing, if they wanted Gogeta SSJ3 the production team showed them, but Gogeta was already showed in the Movie earlier, Vegetto came in his place.
Even when they were inside Buu.

There has to be some othe reason for Gogeta not to be in the anime.

As Toriyama said, he had to do something else...something better, otherwise why not just use Gogeta again if the two were going to be practically the same strength?
Naked Snake
Oct 4 2012, 11:04 PM
Want to know the reason why Gogeta isn't in the anime?

He's too weak to beat Bootenks, even in SSJ3


LAWL

I couldn't hold it in at this. *****ing funny, dude.
not wanting to use gogeta was the reason he switched it over, hes an artist, hes not gonna blatantly rip toei off and put it in his manga, thats faulty reasoning, if i thought u were talking about my work like that i would be insulted.

He already wanted to give fusion something cool, he made it so that fusion could get two boys whos MAX POWER IS IN SSJ.
the ability to fight super boo.

denying goku and vegeta could have done this like he planned is inexcusable.

denying that the fusion would match them both up as ssj2's for maximum power allowed, just like the boys did at THEIR max power.

with regular ssj2 vegeta already twice as strong as the boys in SSj2, POD vegeta= Goku who is the penultimate figure and master of the form. At IMMEDIATE recall he gets to the power level gohan almost killed himself just to push out in a multiplied blast. Gokus max power is SSj3, a form another 2x SSj2.

These are MAX power forms gentlemen, what the boys can do and what the adults can do are highly different. Fusion takes ALL power and puts it as base in new form. Fusing as ssj2's into a base form character would have him automatically be 2x ssj3.

which is about the neighborhood i start having forms stronger than goku, with base super boo being at the forefront.
i have gohan almost 4x gokus max strength by my calcs. Super boo is between 2.8 and 3.5.

A super kame blast charged in ssj3 for one minute would have destroyed boo. Only one minute? then why the spirit bomb and the magic wish? so much drama...

holy crap, how did i double post????
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Nope.

Base Vegeta / Goku >= Base Goten / Trunks


Base Gogeta >= Base Gotenks

It doesn't go off the form that they're in. It doesn't matter if they fuse in SSJ or SSJ2. Sure, the fusion would be SSJ or SSJ2, but it would be just as strong as if they fused in Base and transformed.
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LOL

how does that even figure in? thats not even a probable variable, them being on equal levels with the kids.
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They're not equals, but they aren't a huge amount stronger either.
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the difference between 40 tons and eighty tons would disagree. Just an outset number for equal variables, but definitely in that range of numbers.
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Not even probable?

Sorry Toriyama-sama.
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^^where si/is my thumbs down button?

no point in even going that deep bro, now ur just playing semantics, might as well just give it up.
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What the heck are you talking about? Tons? What does that have to with it?
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Gokus base level strength increase, cmon man where have you been?
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Paikuan extreme
Oct 4 2012, 11:37 PM
Gokus base level strength increase, cmon man where have you been?
Wait, when? Are you talking about between the Cell-Buu Sagas or something?
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