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SSjin 3 Gogeta vs. Gotenks-Boo
Topic Started: Oct 4 2012, 01:49 PM (8,068 Views)
* Yu Narukami
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Furthermore, Kid Trunks and Goten trained together. Goku and Gohan showed that if you've got someone of a similar power training with you and you train right, your gains will be phenomenal.
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SSJ Kid Trunks on the same level as Cell Games Goku is bogus.
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* Yu Narukami
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Why? Because you don't like it?
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Nothing suggests that he is?
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^ This whole thread.

Now, ya see, this is a simple matter of Statements >> [Bias, Hype, Fanboyism]. And quite a few people are showing some of those characteristics.

Gogeta is at absolute best equal to Gotenks-Boo......so he loses.


Slayerslice
Oct 4 2012, 10:09 PM
Nothing suggests that he is?


Had a nice laugh over this, thanks.

As if we haven't gone over this enough.
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Gogeta SSJ3 is 10x SSJ3 Gotenks, so he wins by stomp.
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Slayerslice
Oct 4 2012, 09:46 PM
Buu does take characteristics from the stronger person, i.e Gotenks > Piccolo, Gohan > Piccolo.

Then why did Boo not take the characteristics of South Kaioshin when he absorbed Dai Kaioshin? South Kaioshin was stated to be the strongest of the Kais, so if Boo took on the characteristics of the strongest person he'd absorbed, he should've remained as Buff Boo instead turning into Fat Boo.
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Why does that not make sense, Vegeta knocked Trunks out with 1 slap to his neck, knocked Goten out with a gut punch.
They are absolutely nowhere close to his power in that regard, and Vegeta didn't even try.

Another terrible example. By that logic, SSjin 2 Majin Vegeta > SSjin 2 Goku by a wide margin.
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Goten was SSJ and Gohan was still dodging punches from Goten. Base Gohan > SSJ Goten.

Gohan transformed before Goten. :lol:
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Don't want to talk about #18, she was definately suppressed in the fight until they transformed into SSJ.

The boys were definitely suppressed as well, then. :o
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Abo Cado, they had to fuse to beat the fused form of Abocado? They were only on Frieza's level, why didn't they just turn SSJ?

I don't know why you keep bringing that non-canon garbage into this, brobro! Even in non-canon world, the special just betrays all logic from the movies.
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Piccolo wasn't impressed by the kids power, he was impressed by Gotenks.

Looking like he ***** his pants seems "impressed" enough to me.
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If the kids had increased that much, the writers would probably mentioned that they were as strong/close to adults.

They weren't important to the plot, just like the training increases the humans got for the androids. None of that was mentioned, but we know they increased tremendously.
Paikuan extreme
Oct 4 2012, 09:47 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Oct 4 2012, 09:08 PM
Slayerslice
Oct 4 2012, 08:59 PM
Whatever, Vegeta is still more then twice as stronger then Trunks,

Conjecture.
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making any Gogeta form the double of Gotenks, + rival boost, SSJ3 could cruise through GT til Baby Vegeta.

Gogeta wouldn't get a rival boost.
Paikuan extreme
Oct 4 2012, 09:00 PM
Vegeta SSJ2
Oct 4 2012, 07:33 PM
SSJ3 Gogeta is probably a bit stronger than Gohan , and Gohan was no match for Buutenks. The gap between Gohan and Buutenks is greater than gap between Gohan and Super Buu.
Buuhan > Buutenks >> SSJ3 Gogeta >(=) Mystic Gohan > Gotenks SSJ3.
how do you figure this?

where is the evidence of your beliefs?

im going to start encouraging people to say why instead of just what.

for what reason is gogeta so nerfed? why is ssj3 gogeta in the same realm as gotenks? that makes NO SENSE!!

For what reason is Gogeta so overrated?
Gogeta has nothing missing, why over rate him instead of giving him due credit?

I could ask the same thing of you concerning the kids. :rofl:
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disliking him doesnt discredit him.

You've never seen me say Gogeta is one of my favorite characters if you think I dislike him, then.
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Taking away something he already inherently has makes no sense.

you might as well blame everything on the potarras, including the power and rival boost.

It's a combination of all of that.
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If thats the case, then yajirobe and yamucha can potarras fuse to beat boo. Thats how strong it is.

in reality its what youre saying.

In reality, that's what Goku said when he proclaimed Fusion to be that "extreme." You're merely making my stance into a hyperbole.
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Ask toei why the precursor to vegetto is able to take on a stronger ki than super boos in only ssj.

A Super Boo that had not yet used his full power, my good man! What Goku has not sensed, Goku cannot compare to.
Slayerslice
Oct 4 2012, 09:52 PM
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Oct 4 2012, 09:50 PM
Erm...Vegeta was SSJ2 when he knocked Trunks out.
So what? he wasn't even trying, his aura wasn't charging like he was fighting Goku.
Trunks was in his SSJ state aswell.

Not to mention a busted up Vegeta.

That's still completely bogus logic. Super Saiyans do not compare with Super Saiyan 2s outside of finishing maneuvers.
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Slayerslice
Oct 4 2012, 10:11 PM
Gogeta SSJ3 is 10x SSJ3 Gotenks, so he wins by stomp.
And this is established where exactly?
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I can't believe you just said 10x again, after all the threads we've had this debate in. I can't believe you're doing anything but trolling with that comment.
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Oct 4 2012, 10:12 PM
Slayerslice
Oct 4 2012, 10:11 PM
Gogeta SSJ3 is 10x SSJ3 Gotenks, so he wins by stomp.
And this is established where exactly?
Can ask you the same exact thing.

@Kamikaze, there was a scene of Gohan sparring with Goten, Goten turned into Super Saiyan, and then Gohan transformed and knocked Goten out of his SSJ.
He said ''How hard I try I can't hit you''
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Whilst we're on the topic of gaps, Hercule is 10x Roshi. If you ask me why I think that, I could ask you the same question.
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He could go Kaioken in SSJ3 x10:)
If he can do it in SSJ he should be able to do it in SSJ3, but with a much stronger body.
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Slayerslice
Oct 4 2012, 10:17 PM
Kyouka Suigetsu
Oct 4 2012, 10:12 PM
Slayerslice
Oct 4 2012, 10:11 PM
Gogeta SSJ3 is 10x SSJ3 Gotenks, so he wins by stomp.
And this is established where exactly?
Can ask you the same exact thing.

I know you weren't replying to me, but this is kind of moot. You're asking him the same thing he's asking you, not the opposite like I think you were intending.
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@Kamikaze, there was a scene of Gohan sparring with Goten, Goten turned into Super Saiyan, and then Gohan transformed and knocked Goten out of his SSJ.
He said ''How hard I try I can't hit you''

Indubitably incorrect, sir.

- Gohan transforms.
- Base Goten throws rocks at him.
- Goten asks Gohan if he could "be like him," then transforms.
- They spar, and Goten forces Gohan into the air.
- After the spar, Goten says he couldn't hit Gohan even once.

That is only the first sparring session, by the way, so don't get it twisted trying to pass that off as the remainder of their training.

Naked Snake
Oct 4 2012, 10:18 PM
Whilst we're on the topic of gaps, Hercule is 10x Roshi. If you ask me why I think that, I could ask you the same question.

Your statements hurt my brain because I know I'm wrong.
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Slayerslice
Oct 4 2012, 10:22 PM
He could go Kaioken in SSJ3 x10:)
If he can do it in SSJ he should be able to do it in SSJ3, but with a much stronger body.
Now you are absolutely trolling. Not only is that filler, but the strain from both of those going on at once would limit his Fusion time to 1 minute, if that, or outright kill him.
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