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SSjin 3 Gogeta vs. Gotenks-Boo
Topic Started: Oct 4 2012, 01:49 PM (8,069 Views)
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Fusion isn't Base + Base ? That means is not important if Goku and Vegeta have more transformations.
Base Trunks/Goten Pre RST are already around Base Teen Gohan , and they increase in RoSaT , maybe around Base PreMajin Vegeta.
So , Base Adult > Base Kids but the gap is not big.
And in Fusion Rival Boost don't exist , no evidence.
So , with multiplyes , Base Gogeta is stronger than Base Gotenks. With help of multipliers SSJ3 Gogeta will be clearly superior to SSJ3 Gotenks , like Gohan , Maybe stronger than Gohan.
And Goku and Buuhan agreed this : thier statements make Gogeta << Buuhan.
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Oct 4 2012, 09:11 PM
Fusion isn't Base + Base ? That means is not important if Goku and Vegeta have more transformations.
Base Trunks/Goten Pre RST are already around Base Teen Gohan , and they increase in RoSaT , maybe around Base PreMajin Vegeta.
So , Base Adult > Base Kids but the gap is not big.
And in Fusion Rival Boost don't exist , no evidence.
So , with multiplyes , Base Gogeta is stronger than Base Gotenks. With help of multipliers SSJ3 Gogeta will be clearly superior to SSJ3 Gotenks , like Gohan , Maybe stronger than Gohan.
And Goku and Buuhan agreed this : thier statements make Gogeta << Buuhan.
Lol no, no Trunks is close to Vegeta, period. The closest Trunks came to Vegeta was a future one, that was 12years older then him and who trained more then him.


And Goku and Buuhan agreed this : thier statements make Gogeta << Buuhan.

''Even I am surprised that I am making this fool out of you'' Vegetto.
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Oct 4 2012, 09:16 PM
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Oct 4 2012, 09:11 PM
Fusion isn't Base + Base ? That means is not important if Goku and Vegeta have more transformations.
Base Trunks/Goten Pre RST are already around Base Teen Gohan , and they increase in RoSaT , maybe around Base PreMajin Vegeta.
So , Base Adult > Base Kids but the gap is not big.
And in Fusion Rival Boost don't exist , no evidence.
So , with multiplyes , Base Gogeta is stronger than Base Gotenks. With help of multipliers SSJ3 Gogeta will be clearly superior to SSJ3 Gotenks , like Gohan , Maybe stronger than Gohan.
And Goku and Buuhan agreed this : thier statements make Gogeta << Buuhan.
Lol no, no Trunks is close to Vegeta, period. The closest Trunks came to Vegeta was a future one, that was 12years older then him and who trained more then him.


And Goku and Buuhan agreed this : thier statements make Gogeta << Buuhan.

''Even I am surprised that I am making this fool out of you'' Vegetto.
Kid Trunks was close enough to Vegeta to scuff his face and give Vegeta hope of surpassing Gohan. That's not weaksauce range like #18-Imperfect Cell, that's boss range like Semi-Perfect Cell-MSSjin Goku CG.
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You mean the tired Vegeta? You did remember what happened after that right? he made Trunks teary with 1 punch.
If that's not a display of 2x+ strength then I don't know what it means.

If Post-Trunks was anything close to Pre-Majin base Vegeta, Buucolo would've had Trunks' gi.
Gogeta took a full punch to his face from Janemba, and it did absolutely nothing to him.
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You mean the tired Vegeta? You did remember what happened after that right? he made Trunks teary with 1 punch.
If that's not a display of 2x+ strength then I don't know what it means.

A tired Vegeta that would still obliterate anybody from the Cell Games on down, excluding Kid Gohan, Goku, and obviously Cell. :@
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If Post-Trunks was anything close to Pre-Majin base Vegeta, Buucolo would've had Trunks' gi.

Piccolo-Boo has nothing to do with Kid Trunks's power relation to Vegeta. :|
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Gogeta took a full punch to his face from Janemba, and it did absolutely nothing to him.

Why do you keep bringing the most irrelevant examples into these debates?
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My post was partially to SSJ2 Vegeta
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OK, still, the relations you're making are illogical. Boo taking Piccolo's characteristics has nothing to do with how Kid Trunks stacks against Vegeta, or Gotenks to Gogeta. We don't know for sure that it's based on strength, for one, and secondly, that would be Base Kid Trunks, not SSjin Kid Trunks.
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Buu does take characteristics from the stronger person, i.e Gotenks > Piccolo, Gohan > Piccolo.
Why does that not make sense, Vegeta knocked Trunks out with 1 slap to his neck, knocked Goten out with a gut punch.
They are absolutely nowhere close to his power in that regard, and Vegeta didn't even try.

Goten was SSJ and Gohan was still dodging punches from Goten. Base Gohan > SSJ Goten.
Don't want to talk about #18, she was definately suppressed in the fight until they transformed into SSJ.

Abo Cado, they had to fuse to beat the fused form of Abocado? They were only on Frieza's level, why didn't they just turn SSJ?

Piccolo wasn't impressed by the kids power, he was impressed by Gotenks.
If the kids had increased that much, the writers would probably mentioned that they were as strong/close to adults.
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Oct 4 2012, 09:08 PM
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Oct 4 2012, 08:59 PM
Whatever, Vegeta is still more then twice as stronger then Trunks,

Conjecture.
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making any Gogeta form the double of Gotenks, + rival boost, SSJ3 could cruise through GT til Baby Vegeta.

Gogeta wouldn't get a rival boost.
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Oct 4 2012, 09:00 PM
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Oct 4 2012, 07:33 PM
SSJ3 Gogeta is probably a bit stronger than Gohan , and Gohan was no match for Buutenks. The gap between Gohan and Buutenks is greater than gap between Gohan and Super Buu.
Buuhan > Buutenks >> SSJ3 Gogeta >(=) Mystic Gohan > Gotenks SSJ3.
how do you figure this?

where is the evidence of your beliefs?

im going to start encouraging people to say why instead of just what.

for what reason is gogeta so nerfed? why is ssj3 gogeta in the same realm as gotenks? that makes NO SENSE!!

For what reason is Gogeta so overrated?
Gogeta has nothing missing, why over rate him instead of giving him due credit?

disliking him doesnt discredit him. Taking away something he already inherently has makes no sense.

you might as well blame everything on the potarras, including the power and rival boost.

If thats the case, then yajirobe and yamucha can potarras fuse to beat boo. Thats how strong it is.

in reality its what youre saying.

Ask toei why the precursor to vegetto is able to take on a stronger ki than super boos in only ssj.
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Erm...Vegeta was SSJ2 when he knocked Trunks out.
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Sorry for the double post, but lets see.

Abo and Cado. Completely irrelevant.

Toriyama didn't care. At that point, the level that Goku and Vegeta were at was pathetic when compared to the higher powers.
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Oct 4 2012, 09:50 PM
Erm...Vegeta was SSJ2 when he knocked Trunks out.
So what? he wasn't even trying, his aura wasn't charging like he was fighting Goku.
Trunks was in his SSJ state aswell.

Not to mention a busted up Vegeta.
Edited by Slayerslice, Oct 4 2012, 09:52 PM.
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Yup. Trunks is going to be on his guard because he knows Vegeta's evil. Its not like he's his father or anything.

Majin Vegeta (Holding back) > SSJ Trunks > SSJ Trunks (Relaxed)

I don't see how an SSJ2 that is holding back aganist an SSJ is proof that the SSJ is weak.
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Did I say Trunks is weak?
He is just not close to Vegeta, how does 3 weeks of training surpass the years Vegeta did? Or come anything close to it.
Future Trunks and Trunks are still the same DNA, how come the 1year he spent with Vegeta in RoSaT didn't get stronger then Vegeta?

In the sense that Kid Trunks got his gains?
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Kid Trunks is far superior. Mirai Trunks didn't know how to train properly. He didn't make a big a gain as Kid Trunks did because;

1) He didn't know how to train
2) Vegeta wouldn't train with him
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