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| SSjin 3 Gogeta vs. Gotenks-Boo | |
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| + miguelnuva | Oct 12 2012, 08:13 PM Post #181 |
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In the filler scene Gohan is beating Goten, Goten goes MSSJ, Gohan blocks for a little bit starts to lose and then he goes MSSJ. Base Gohan is under MSSJ Goten. And while Gohan was serious with his training with Goten he wasn't go all out like Piccolo or Goku after Gohan made him. |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 12 2012, 08:14 PM Post #182 |
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Yeah, he wasn't going to kill Goten, but he wasn't going to hold back, as in suppress his power, either. |
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Oct 12 2012, 09:03 PM Post #183 |
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I already said my points, I do not have to repeat myself over and over again. You deliberately keep out my parts because it's not in manga and then disregard it. If SSJ Goten was so almighty he would of hit Gohan in his base, period. Seriously kids are overrated so much. Goku in his base would beat Goten, let alone SSJ Gogeta fusion vs. Gotenks fusion lol. And Buu Saga Goku is miles ahead of Teen Gohan |
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| Sjk8 | Oct 12 2012, 09:08 PM Post #184 |
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Yeah, Ssj Gogeta would obliterate with utter ease Ssj Gotenks pre Rosat, but then Gotenks trained and it is implied he became much stronger, so the gap between him and Gogeta lowered, as became smaller the gap between base adults and base kids. I don't really think that Ssj Gogeta is more than 8 X Ssj Gotenks post Rosat, and that's the gap he would need in order to defeat Ssj3 Gotenks. The only alternative way is that metamoran boost can change, thus Gogeta would receive an higher boost... But, again, where is the actual proof? |
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Oct 12 2012, 09:20 PM Post #185 |
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15 days can't possibly improve them by that much considering the boost Gohan got at the same age and he trained for 3 YEARS! How strong is Super Janemba really, because if we can find his actual number then we can compare Gogeta to Gotenks, or do you want to compare SSJ4 Gogeta first, because that's the only occassions where he appeared in. |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 12 2012, 09:21 PM Post #186 |
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Are you admitting defeat by admitting you can't make an argument in a CANON debate using solely CANON evidence? Otherwise don't talk as if you're holier than thou. |
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Oct 12 2012, 09:26 PM Post #187 |
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What? The scenes are canon. Because they are filler according to you? Who are you lol. |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 12 2012, 09:28 PM Post #188 |
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Seriously, dude, look up what canon and filler mean. If you think something not in the manga is canon, then I don't even know. |
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Oct 12 2012, 09:32 PM Post #189 |
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Dude seriously, because it's not in the manga doesn't mean they aren't canon. Kai obviously didn't cut out ''filler'' to consider it a filler lol. How is Gohan training Goten for the tournament a filler? Really, in the manga they didn't even show Goten transform into a SSJ. |
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Oct 12 2012, 09:34 PM Post #190 |
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If it's not in the manga, it's not canon. Get it through your head already. |
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Oct 12 2012, 09:40 PM Post #191 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chQ3MWIzJ_4 Manga isn't complete then. |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 12 2012, 09:42 PM Post #192 |
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If you don't know the definition of filler, then you shouldn't be using it in debates in the first place. I will keep reporting you if you're just going to blatantly ignore clear definitions because that's just ignorance. That's not a threat either, that's a guarantee. And go ahead and fire reports back at me, I've followed the rules of this debate and the forum (other than double posting which is hard not to do on probation as you know). Just because Kai didn't cut it doesn't mean it's not filler. Kai cut most of the filler, not all. It's still the anime, which is non-canon itself. I thought you knew that, at least. And so what if the manga didn't show Goten's first transformation? It didn't show his first crap either because it's totally irrelevant. We didn't need to see his first transformation, just like we didn't need to see Vegeta's or Gohan's or Trunks's. The anime does add some things that CAN fit into the manga, like the Ginyu Force on Kaio's planet filler, but that doesn't make it canon no matter how much you want it to. |
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Oct 12 2012, 09:43 PM Post #193 |
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I can't even begin to describe how dumb this is. You realize that's a DUB LINE? Meaning it's not even in the original anime to begin with. |
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| + Kyouks | Oct 12 2012, 09:43 PM Post #194 |
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I can honestly say...something really demeaning right here. Anyways, filler is something added into the anime to make the anime longer, since anime episodes have more material than manga chapters. Filler was not in the original manga, meaning it was not written by the original author. If I was writing a paper for some book I read for school, would I use evidence that the author didn't write in my paper? Canon evidence, on the other hand, is evidence that the author wrote. And the author wrote the manga. I honestly don't see what you mean by "pulling the manga card" - you are supposed to pull the "manga card" - that's the only kind of evidence that is valid in this debate. The filler scenes you posted were scenes added in by TOEI to make the anime last longer. They were not written by Akira Toriyama, the author of the original Dragon Ball work. Why should they hold any water in this debate? |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 12 2012, 09:43 PM Post #195 |
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That's your opinion and is not based in fact. Toriyama thought it was complete with 42 volumes. |
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Sorry, but no such thing is uttered from Gohan in the manga. And really, bleeding is a sign of trying? Since when?









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