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SSjin 3 Gogeta vs. Gotenks-Boo
Topic Started: Oct 4 2012, 01:49 PM (8,060 Views)
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Slayerslice
Oct 12 2012, 12:22 AM
Piccolo wasn't 50% weaker then Gohan, Piccolo held his own against Cell Jr's, he also went into the RoSaT or have you forgot?
I didn't forget about anything. You're probably using the anime, where Tenshinhan and Yamcha > Cell Junior, so I hardly consider that a legit fight to use for comparison. Manga-wise, Piccolo hardly held his own. He did better than a tired MSSjin Goku, but worse than SSjin Vegeta/Trunks (stated by Cell), who were both only marginally ahead of 50% Goku. Gohan was a great amount stronger than Goku, so even half of his power would probably be stronger than Piccolo's.
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Slayerslice
Oct 12 2012, 12:25 AM
Not only stronger then post-rosat kids, Goku would stomp them, not trolling.
No, you are trolling.

No one thinking logically could come up with this conclusion, ever.
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Slayerslice, do you not like the kids? That's the vibe I'm getting from you. You've used filler scenes and baseless assumptions to demean them this whole time.
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No I stated evidence.

SSJ Goten could not touch Base Gohan. Fact.
Base Trunks could barely lift his leg over the order to walk in 150G. Fact.
Base Vegeta was doing 1-finger pushups in 450G, and doing all kinds of athletic movements. Fact.
SSJ Trunks grazed (Tired) SSJ Vegeta with a punch, reteliated with his own and knocked his son down. Fact.
Teen Gohan is weaker then Kid Gohan (Cell Games), If SSJ2 Teen Gohan is weaker then SSJ2 Kid Gohan, then the base is weaker, too. Fact. Confirmed by Vegeta.
Base Mighty Mask vs. #18, couldn't win against in their base, Trunks doing a blast that could of destroyed the arena, and her child was in the audience is truly what concerned her, not the magnitude, she wouldn't of cared if it was in a wasteland knowing #18.

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SSJ Goten could not touch Base Gohan. Fact.

FILLER.
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Base Trunks could barely lift his leg over the order to walk in 150G. Fact.
Base Vegeta was doing 1-finger pushups in 450G, and doing all kinds of athletic movements. Fact.

Gravity is inconsistent. It means nothing in these kinds of arguments. Goku at 90,000 mastered 100G and not even you would say Base Trunks < 90,000...right? :huh:
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SSJ Trunks grazed (Tired) SSJ Vegeta with a punch, reteliated with his own and knocked his son down. Fact.

And you don't have to be multi-fold above someone to do that. If Vegeta had knocked Trunks out of Super Saiyan, it'd have been far more impressive.
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Teen Gohan is weaker then Kid Gohan (Cell Games), If SSJ2 Teen Gohan is weaker then SSJ2 Kid Gohan, then the base is weaker, too. Fact. Confirmed by Vegeta.

This is an actual fact, yes.
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Base Mighty Mask vs. #18, couldn't win against in their base, Trunks doing a blast that could of destroyed the arena, and her child was in the audience is truly what concerned her, not the magnitude, she wouldn't of cared if it was in a wasteland knowing #18.

Trunks wasn't aimed anywhere near the arena, so that assumption falls apart right there. If she was so concerned about the safety of her daughter, why did she immediately yell about winning the tournament after the blast exploded in the OCEAN instead of yelling at them about endangering the people at the stadium? Winning was her priority, that's why.
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She even fought them both at the same time and they weren't touching her, what's your point?
In all-out fight she would win 1 on 1.

The punch hurt Trunks BAD, he was almost crying.
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Also are you really going to pull the filler card when Goten and Trunks weren't even showed much at all? Might aswell call the whole character a filler.. wow.
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She even fought them both at the same time and they weren't touching her, what's your point?
In all-out fight she would win 1 on 1.

Again, filler. After she exposed them, they ran away in the manga. And no, not because they couldn't take her, because they were disqualified and their moms were angry.
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The punch hurt Trunks BAD, he was almost crying.

But he didn't regress to Base, so it wasn't as bad as you're trying to make it seem.
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Oct 12 2012, 12:52 AM
Also are you really going to pull the filler card when Goten and Trunks weren't even showed much at all? Might aswell call the whole character a filler.. wow.
No. You're just getting desperate. The kids were shown enough. If you can't debate about them without using filler, then don't debate them.
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I am desperate haha, that's funny. Baseless numbers without any evidence to show.
The kids weren't shown enough, no they weren't.

For the sake of this topic, SSJ3 Gogeta beats Gotenks-Boo or not?
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Oct 12 2012, 12:57 AM
I am desperate haha, that's funny. Baseless numbers without any evidence to show.
The kids weren't shown enough, no they weren't.

For the sake of this topic, SSJ3 Gogeta beats Gotenks-Boo or not?
Your evidence is about as good as baseless numbers though.

IMO: SSJ3 Gogeta barely pulls out the win.
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Oct 12 2012, 12:59 AM
Slayerslice
Oct 12 2012, 12:57 AM
I am desperate haha, that's funny. Baseless numbers without any evidence to show.
The kids weren't shown enough, no they weren't.

For the sake of this topic, SSJ3 Gogeta beats Gotenks-Boo or not?
Your evidence is about as good as baseless numbers though.

IMO: SSJ3 Gogeta barely pulls out the win.
You are his buddy, ofcourse you are going to agree with him even if he's wrong.
What I mentioned, none of the were lies, all of them straight out of the show.

And when you add all that up, it makes them much weaker then the adults.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think the Kids are weak, I just think the fusion dance is just a really, really powerful technique. Gotenks showed us that.
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Oct 12 2012, 12:56 AM
Don't double post guys.

Cooler, we can't edit after a couple minutes, so that's sometimes hard to avoid. :'(
Slayerslice
Oct 12 2012, 12:57 AM
I am desperate haha, that's funny. Baseless numbers without any evidence to show.

Yes, you do sound desperate. You're bouncing from subject to subject at random, using filler, and then trying to disregard whole characters because you can't support your argument.
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The kids weren't shown enough, no they weren't.

They were shown enough to get a basic grip on their strength. They were there for Gotenks. They didn't need to be focused on like the other main characters. Like I said, if you can't use what we were given, then don't debate about them. That'd be like me saying we should disregard Gotenks-Boo because he only appeared for a couple chapters.
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For the sake of this topic, SSJ3 Gogeta beats Gotenks-Boo or not?

No.
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Oct 12 2012, 01:02 AM
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Oct 12 2012, 12:59 AM
Slayerslice
Oct 12 2012, 12:57 AM
I am desperate haha, that's funny. Baseless numbers without any evidence to show.
The kids weren't shown enough, no they weren't.

For the sake of this topic, SSJ3 Gogeta beats Gotenks-Boo or not?
Your evidence is about as good as baseless numbers though.

IMO: SSJ3 Gogeta barely pulls out the win.
You are his buddy, ofcourse you are going to agree with him even if he's wrong.
What I mentioned, none of the were lies, all of them straight out of the show.

And when you add all that up, it makes them much weaker then the adults.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think the Kids are weak, I just think the fusion dance is just a really, really powerful technique. Gotenks showed us that.
Thank you! That last part makes sense, BUT it is not evidence that the kids themselves are weak as piss.
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