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| + Kyouks | Oct 3 2012, 03:44 AM Post #31 |
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I remember Gohan in M13 being Saiyaman, and having that casual expression and stuff, but when he powered up to fight Hirudegarn, it's a little similar to how he powered up on the Kai's planet - less dramatic, but the change of eyes and hair. He kinda does the same in M12 right when attacking Frieza, but of course, that could simply be the usual "angry expression narrowing mah eyes wheeeee" thing that everyone does. lolwut |
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| + miguelnuva | Oct 3 2012, 08:24 AM Post #32 |
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This is from a DBZ wiki. When Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan 3, he says he has never been pushed to transform into that form before except during the fight with Majin Buu. Fat Buu is not seen anywhere, but if Kid Buu has been defeated, then both Goku and Vegeta should be alive again. This suggests that the Majin Buu Saga happens within this film's background. This, with the ability of Goten and Trunks to fuse as Super Saiyans, suggest that Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn was going on during or after episode 253, where Goten and Trunks successfully use the Fusion technique as Super Saiyans for the first time. Additionally, Mr. Satan is not at Majin Buu's house in the movie, which is consistent with the fact that he left the Majin's house in episode 253 to get dog food for Bee. As shown on Videl's watch, the movie took place on a Saturday, the 16th (9 days after the 25th World Martial Arts Tournament, which took place on May 7 of Age 774). I just realizing that Hercule could have stopped Buu from realizing evil buu and that's what happened. |
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| Master of Dragon Ball | Oct 3 2012, 08:32 AM Post #33 |
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My friend, that would not explain why Gotenks is post-HTC. |
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Oct 3 2012, 10:00 AM Post #34 |
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nor gohan being there when he should be on kais world. |
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| Fourth Doctor Who | Oct 3 2012, 12:10 PM Post #35 |
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I think Movie 12 takes place when Son Goku goes back to the otherworld and Vegeta is dead thus after blowing himself up. "You're the only the second person to push me this far." - SSjin 3 Goku [against Janemba 1st Form] "You should be proud of yourself only Majin Buu pushed me far in battle before." - SSjin 3 Goku [Funimation Dub] Funimation makes it sounds Goku fought Kid Buu when said "pushed me far in battle before". |
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Oct 3 2012, 01:13 PM Post #36 |
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Super Janemba > Super Buu > SSJ3 Goku > Kid Buu > Fat Buu Gap between Super Janemba and Super Buu is closer then SSJ3 Gotenks and Super Buu Edited by Slayerslice, Oct 3 2012, 01:14 PM.
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Oct 3 2012, 03:46 PM Post #37 |
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yeah ^^^ miguel seems o hae forgotten that not even one hundred ssj2's could take out fat boo. so gotenks and gohan defnitely arent doing it. |
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| + miguelnuva | Oct 3 2012, 08:26 PM Post #38 |
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SSJ Gotenks was SSJ3 level and SSJ2 post Zeta Gohan was ahead of Goku and Majin Vegeta working together Fat Buu would have been toast. And this is an alternate reality. And Super Janemba is not stronger than Super Buu at most their equal going by anime logic. |
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Oct 3 2012, 08:39 PM Post #39 |
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i think you need to watch movie 12 again. Its AFTER boo and goku says its the strongest ki EVER. and thats besides the fact that gotenks and gohan couldnt have gotten together, the boys learned fusion to avenge gohans death at the hands of fat boo. Not the other way around. Goku wanted to fuse and couldnt find anyone, so popo suggested the boys do it. In movie 12 the boys are post rosat gotenks and never fought janemba only boo. Plus gohan was there and he was supposed ot be on kai world, so if gohan is there then he never fought fat boo OR went to the kai world as the result of his beatdown. meaning the only real possibility is gotenks going ssj3 to defeat super boo who is the true culprit. Nothing suggests that what happened with boo didnt happen in movie 12 with boo to make him turn into super boo. so its still a huge contradiction. or you can just say that gohan coming back after powering up and defeating boo along with ssj gotenks who would have been killed by super boo otherwise is a fluke. either way whomever killed boo means they killed super boo and not fat boo. Otherwise there is no need for ultimate gohan or Post ssj ghost kamikaze using gotenks. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Oct 3 2012, 08:42 PM.
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| + miguelnuva | Oct 4 2012, 12:16 AM Post #40 |
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Just because Gotenks has the ghost doens't mean it's post Rosat it's a non canon movie and sense the movie is non canon there is nothing to say Gohan and Gotenks aren't the ones that beat Buu. Supreme Kai was ready to send Gohan back after the Zeta Sword broke for all we know in fusion reborn Old Kai wasn't in the Zeta Sword. Either Gohan and Gotenks, Gotenks alone or SSJ3 Goku beat Fat Buu in M12. Goku stomps Fat Janempa even going by Anime logic this has to means Fat Janempa> Fat Buu because Super Buu is equel to SSJ3 Gotenks who is somewhat stronger than SSJ3 Goku. You know what going off the Anime I guess you could have Janmeba= to Super Buu. |
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| + Pyrus | Oct 4 2012, 12:17 AM Post #41 |
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I disagree. Janemba laughed off all of Goku's attacks, and took no lasting damage from any of them. He didn't use full power until Gogeta showed up. He was a good margin ahead of Sir Goku. Gotenks was probably around 20% stronger than Super Boo at the higher end of the spectrum. |
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Oct 4 2012, 12:17 AM Post #42 |
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wrong, the movie predates the manga. Gotenks NEEDs the ghost kamikaze attack, he didnt come up with it until the rosat. if gotenks didnt train? he doesnt have the move. Simple as that. ninja'd by pyro. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Oct 4 2012, 12:18 AM.
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| Fourth Doctor Who | Oct 4 2012, 10:29 PM Post #43 |
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I personally have the power chain like this SSjin Gogeta > Super Janemba = Super Buu ~ SSjin 3 Gotenks (Post Rosat) > SSjin 3 Goku. I really don't mind if Gotenks was Post Rosat in Movie 12 because that sounds plausible to me. |
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