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SSj Gogeta > SSj3 Gotenks
Topic Started: Sep 23 2012, 06:53 PM (3,724 Views)
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cause people always nerf his abilities in order to make gogeta weaker than he should be.

The potarras efficiency in the use of the unified power is what's more important than the dance.

The same reason i have it a form behind the potarras, in the same form. All power goes to base, an then you transform.

So SSj gogeta = base vegetto

which is why i have ssj2 gogeta beating buuhan. cause the ssj2 boost on top of the unifier for a possible rival boost as it is still goku and vegeta.
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Hm. I can deal with that. Getting back to topic:

~ SSJ Vegetto didn't happen in series yet so SSJ Gogeta can't be stronger than Vegetto
~ Gogeta could be the strongest fusion before Vegetto appeared -- assuming him and Gotenks are in the same form
~ Daiz says Potara > Dance, so this also disproves Gogeta > Vegetto

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Sep 23 2012, 10:35 PM
cause people always nerf his abilities in order to make gogeta weaker than he should be.

The potarras efficiency in the use of the unified power is what's more important than the dance.

The same reason i have it a form behind the potarras, in the same form. All power goes to base, an then you transform.

So SSj gogeta = base vegetto

which is why i have ssj2 gogeta beating buuhan. cause the ssj2 boost on top of the unifier for a possible rival boost as it is still goku and vegeta.
This is my stand on Gogeta and Vegito expect I have SSJ Gogeta a little ahead of Base Vegito.

When Gogeta is on the next level I have him a little ahead of Vegito's previous level.
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Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P8.8
Context: Goku tries to get Vegeta to use the Potara with him, but Vegeta refuses
Goku: “Knowing you, I thought you might say that…! There ain’t any other way to beat Majin Boo!

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Sep 24 2012, 01:48 AM
Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P8.8
Context: Goku tries to get Vegeta to use the Potara with him, but Vegeta refuses
Goku: “Knowing you, I thought you might say that…! There ain’t any other way to beat Majin Boo!

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Sep 24 2012, 01:48 AM
Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P8.8
Context: Goku tries to get Vegeta to use the Potara with him, but Vegeta refuses
Goku: “Knowing you, I thought you might say that…! There ain’t any other way to beat Majin Boo!

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as professed and SOLD to him by elder kai. who NEVER put down the dance as something that wouldnt get the job done.

truth is? he just didnt want them to transform. He knew that ALL power gets relegated to base.

The same reason they burn out if they potarra in ssj.

yet the dance allows the ssj fusion with relative safety, in fact its encouraged so the ssj multiplier is added to the fusion base. The true reason it being a form behind works out.

rival boost or not, the potarras ARE the better way to fuse.
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with hax they one shot gotenks

Fat janemba>super buu=>ssj3 gotenks

without hax id say no. i dont see goku and vegeta fusion a ***** load times stronger then ssj gotenks

IMO ssj gogeta=>ssj gotenks post

potara multiplier is way to high
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youre kidding right? so you just give all the power to the kids cause of fusion and none to the people over 2 times stronger than they are even post rosat?

i think you need to rethink what fusion means. Goku and vegeta are ssj2 and 3 ahead of the kids, and all of that goes to base.

before the rosat training, base gotenks was weaker than vegeta, or noted to be in the same hood.
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Sep 24 2012, 03:01 AM
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Sep 24 2012, 01:48 AM
Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P8.8
Context: Goku tries to get Vegeta to use the Potara with him, but Vegeta refuses
Goku: “Knowing you, I thought you might say that…! There ain’t any other way to beat Majin Boo!

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as professed and SOLD to him by elder kai. who NEVER put down the dance as something that wouldnt get the job done.

truth is? he just didnt want them to transform. He knew that ALL power gets relegated to base.

The same reason they burn out if they potarra in ssj.

yet the dance allows the ssj fusion with relative safety, in fact its encouraged so the ssj multiplier is added to the fusion base. The true reason it being a form behind works out.

rival boost or not, the potarras ARE the better way to fuse.
None of that disproves why Goku didn't think Fusion would beat Gohan-Boo. >_< If Fusion could get the job done, Goku wouldn't have said Potara was the only way to win. He can think for himself, he doesn't need Elder Kaioshin telling him what to do. He brings up Fusion for normal Super Boo later on, even.
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SSJ Vegetto >>>> Buuhan > Buutenks >~ SSJ3 Gogeta > Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks >~ Super Buu. <_<
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ok then, why harp on something he said to vegeta to get him to do what was necessary? piccolo was right vegeta wasnt going for it, and wanted to fight separately. Not in fusion.
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Sep 24 2012, 03:23 AM
ok then, why harp on something he said to vegeta to get him to do what was necessary? piccolo was right vegeta wasnt going for it, and wanted to fight separately. Not in fusion.
Goku suggested Fusion inside Super Boo, meaning he still considered it an option against Super Boo, no matter how unlikely it was. He didn't even consider it against Gohan-Boo.
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Because he had the Potara why would Goku use the Dance if Potara was stronger? It wasn't that Gogeta couldn't do it it was Vegito would do it.

Plus AT wanted to use the Potara to build Suspense. If Gogeta had begun beating Buu what's to stop Buu from running intill the 30 mins were up or even letting Goku and Vegeta fuse in the first place? Versus using a fusion that is permanent and the only way for Buu to win as absorption.

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My view on Gogeta versus Vegito

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnWDWj-FGug
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Sep 24 2012, 03:32 AM
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Sep 24 2012, 03:23 AM
ok then, why harp on something he said to vegeta to get him to do what was necessary? piccolo was right vegeta wasnt going for it, and wanted to fight separately. Not in fusion.
Goku suggested Fusion inside Super Boo, meaning he still considered it an option against Super Boo, no matter how unlikely it was. He didn't even consider it against Gohan-Boo.
now we're just guessing.

is weskur going to agree with everything you say?

vegeta didnt want to fuse, and as a matter of fact BROKE the earring to keep it from being used again.

goku then blames vegeta FOR breaking the potarra so they could fuse again while popping out of boo.

Still doesnt cover vegeta not wanting to fuse, and the potarra being the true option. It was pretty obvious, that once the potarras were introduced then it would be moot to even discuss what would be the better option. They were never compared or brought up again as it didnt matter.

doing the fusion dance would have gotten them killed. ala gotenks in the rosat.

They had to intrigue boo and make him stop so they could do the dance. it takes too long. Boo doesnt have that kind of patience and never fell for the same trick twice.
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