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SSj Gogeta > SSj3 Gotenks
Topic Started: Sep 23 2012, 06:53 PM (3,719 Views)
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Movie Time Chart:
Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan 3

Rebirth of Fusion!! Goku and Vegeta

The climax of the battle with Super Buu

We can infer that this is an event during the middle of the battle with Majin Buu from the fact that Goku mentions Majin Buu's name during the course of the movie, the appearance of Gotenks, and the fact that Vegeta is dead.

On Gogeta:

Unrivaled!! The Strongest Fusion warrior!!
"The super warrior formed through the fusion of Goku and Vegeta. He easily defeats Janenba, who not even Super Saiyan 3 was a match for. He is clearly the strongest hero in the universe.

Gogeta
Gogeta, wearing the clothes of the people of Planet Metamor. The drooping bangs are from Goku, while his facial expression takes Vegeta's special characteristics. They fail the fusion once and became the chubby "Veku"."

On Janemba:
Phantasmagoric! The ruler of evil ki!!
Janenba's appearance after getting hit with Goku's attacks and transforming. His personality has become more aggressive than before, and he uses various attacks. He holds strength exceeding Super Saiyan 3.

Janenba (post-transformation)
He's become slime and his body color has also changed to being repulsive. He lets off a stream of eccentric techniques like attacking by stretching his arms, or teleporting by disassembling his body.



http://www.kanzentai.com/trans-daiz06.php?m=15&id=dbz12#link



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My obligatory biased response: Toei clearly had in mind haxxed versions of Vegeta and Goku, so this has nothing to do with a hypothetical canon Gogeta.
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Flashy Thing!

I came into this topic skeptical. I have no clue of how SS Gogeta could possibly be stronger than SS3 Gotenks, so I gave this thread a look to enlighten myself. Unfortunately you started off with the word "movie" and I automatically knew you were wrong.

When it comes to the cannon story line, don't use movies! The movies use just about everything from the Dragonball Series except the power levels of the characters. They whoever as strong as they need to be for the plot of the movie.
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Solution: Just completely ignore it because it contradicts the manga.
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Sep 23 2012, 07:18 PM
My obligatory biased response: Toei clearly had in mind haxxed versions of Vegeta and Goku, so this has nothing to do with a hypothetical canon Gogeta.
Blasphemy!! and what has led you to THIS conclusion kind sir?

why does goku and vegeta NEED to be haxxed?
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Sep 23 2012, 07:46 PM
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Sep 23 2012, 07:18 PM
My obligatory biased response: Toei clearly had in mind haxxed versions of Vegeta and Goku, so this has nothing to do with a hypothetical canon Gogeta.
Blasphemy!! and what has led you to THIS conclusion kind sir?

why does goku and vegeta NEED to be haxxed?
That would be my response if this article did indeed say SSjin Gogeta was superior to SSjin 3 Gotenks, which I don't believe it does. Said level of Gotenks didn't debut until less than 3 months before the movie was released, and Toei always uses a new form if they can, so it leads me to believe either Toriyama didn't give them permission or they didn't know about it in time, so it matters not. They also didn't put Ultimate Gohan in this, even though he appeared only a month after Gotenks did.

The article says Gogeta has power surpassing Super Saiyan 3, but I think that's obviously referring to SSjin 3 Goku, as he is the only Super Saiyan 3 in the movie.
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The movie would have been in production already its true, maybe even just guessing that vegeta would have died as opposed to dictating it. Unless toriyama copied them.
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Sep 23 2012, 07:55 PM
The movie would have been in production already its true, maybe even just guessing that vegeta would have died as opposed to dictating it. Unless toriyama copied them.
Vegeta sacrificed himself almost 9 months before the movie was released, so I think Toei would've had knowledge of that event.
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not back then. (months and it would be in post production, unless they rushed it. )

making animes took up to two years. Not saying that THIS one did, but it had to have been about a year at least.

But you could well be right. The death of vegeta 9 months in, would give them plenty of time to scribble that in. Just put him IN the story, not even have to explain WHY. Otherwise just throw in vegeta, by adding some new scenes, make a line mentioning majin boo, and presto, you've got vegeta in the movie.
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It definitely didn't take them around a year to make the movies. Some of them came out only 4 months after the last one, and other around 8 months.
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Ok, you do remember this was the late 80's early 90's right? theyre super computers took months to put that stuff together.

Plus i got ninja'd by the internet connection.

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Sep 23 2012, 06:51 PM
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Sep 23 2012, 06:39 PM
there's one idea.

here another, kid boo eats pre gotenks for breakfast, he wasnt proven to be any stronger than fat boo, and fat boo was whooped by kid boo.

Kid boo killed everyone, unlike all the other boos, he actually managed to kill, gotenks, gohan, and everyone on the planet.

if boo can kill POST gotenks and Gohan with an explosion like blowing up the planet? he dies rather quickly.
There are two things I must comment upon here for my valiant steed deems me worthy...

1) Good Boo =/= Fat Boo.

2) Planet busting isn't allowed, so Boo can't do that to win here.
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damn i forgot about that, well then i got nothing....he could definitely fight him to a stand still, but he wouldnt be able to do much else IMHO.

It took a universal spirit bomb after all, gotenks aint got one of those.

yeah gohkan- piccolo has got a good beam on gotenks, not boo. His power is unreadable, to him and lie to goku who also cant explain the hidden power in fat boo.

Not to mention that last quote you put up was from the tower, piccolo wasnt on the kai planet, goku was. Goku can sense anyone anywhere. He found gohan as soon as he got to otherworld and HE was on the kai planet, he wasnt ssj3 tier yet. So i dont know where you got that impression.
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Ok, you do remember this was the late 80's early 90's right? theyre super computers took months to put that stuff together.

I'm telling you from the actual release dates. :'(
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Not to mention that last quote you put up was from the tower, piccolo wasnt on the kai planet, goku was. Goku can sense anyone anywhere. He found gohan as soon as he got to otherworld and HE was on the kai planet, he wasnt ssj3 tier yet. So i dont know where you got that impression.

Kaioshin-kai isn't in Otherworld. It's in a separate dimension. Goku sensed Gohan from Otherworld, but not from Earth. He even asked himself why he couldn't sense Gohan's chi (from Earth) when he left Enma's office.
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Don't care, Gogeta ssj isn't canon. :3

I joke, I still care though. :D
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out of the dimension. not to mention goku caught gohans ki when it was spiking from him swinging the sword.
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Sep 23 2012, 08:52 PM
out of the dimension. not to mention goku caught gohans ki when it was spiking from him swinging the sword.
When did this happen?
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