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| My Final Conclusion; Leave your ignoramus ignorance aside for one moment as I beg on your indulgence for a moment | |
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Sep 23 2012, 05:33 PM Post #31 |
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Well didn't Broly survive the SSj2 Gohan and Goku Kamehameha? SSj2 Goku's Kamehameha would need to be above the combined strength of his own and Gohan's, derp. Broly would survive it. |
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| + Pyrus | Sep 23 2012, 05:33 PM Post #32 |
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I don't see how. I didn't say his punch was always stronger than the Kamehameha, just when he's absorbed the power from everybody else on top of his own. Otherwise it'd be crap. |
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| + Kyouks | Sep 23 2012, 05:34 PM Post #33 |
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Mm, okay then. I use le 4x amp, so Broly >/~ 4x SSJ2 Goku I guess.
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Sep 23 2012, 05:35 PM Post #34 |
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Hm? You have the amp 5x in Buu Saga but 4x in M10? |
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| + Kyouks | Sep 23 2012, 05:37 PM Post #35 |
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No, but I know that you use 5x, which is why I brought it up.
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Sep 23 2012, 05:38 PM Post #36 |
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Ah, well yeah. The 5x amp is the only one that roughly makes sense. |
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Sep 23 2012, 06:13 PM Post #37 |
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and how is he above perfect cell level? Both goku and gohan canonically are stronger than their movie 8 selves, goku is a MSSJ canon wise. and gohan, is just a beast. In movie 8, gohan is nothing, and goku is still one step behind broly, despite brolys size advantage, but thats not until after both goku and broly transform. Not much need for broly to transform if goku doesnt represent some kind of threat, like broly had been perceiving him the whole time. not much need at all if he was that much stronger, and theres no need for him to be, the z fighters powers are nerfed, hes not haxxed. Its like gohan still having long hair in the tree of might after coming back from namek. |
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Sep 23 2012, 06:36 PM Post #38 |
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"Even Gohan and Goten's Kamehameha doesn't bother Broli. As the two of them feel that they have lost the battle, the supposedly dead Goku appears before them. At Goku's encouragement, Gohan and Goten power up. Goku assists as well, and as they fire a three-man father and son Kamehameha, Broli is finally obliterated." http://www.kanzentai.com/trans-daiz06.php?m=13&id=dbz10#link Do some math here: SSj Gohan x 5 + SSj Goten x 5 > SSj2 Goku, Broly is unphased. SSj2 Gohan x 5 + SSj2 Goku x 5 + SSj Goten x 5 >>>> SSj2 Goku, Broly survives. LSSj Broly >>> SSj2 Goku, logically. There is no chance in *****ing hell Goku can win against Broly unless he goes SSj3. |
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Sep 23 2012, 06:37 PM Post #39 |
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im still rolling over this 5x multiplier thing, WHERE did that come from? and why is it only applied to the kame blast? |
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| + Pyrus | Sep 23 2012, 06:46 PM Post #40 |
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Darn, I was about to post this. Anyway, it proves Goku was there and contributing to the Kamehameha, at least. Oh, and D6 also proves that the blood was taken from Broly's pod. [/color] Edited by Pyrus, Sep 23 2012, 06:47 PM.
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Sep 23 2012, 06:46 PM Post #41 |
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Yeah, Kamehameha's had a 5x amplifier since the Cell Games. |
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| + Kyouks | Sep 23 2012, 07:02 PM Post #42 |
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^ Not factually, but it's definitely much higher than 2.22x.... |
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Sep 23 2012, 07:04 PM Post #43 |
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And 2x is how people have SSj2 over SSj in SEG. No matter what each KHH had enough power to be SSj2 level, the fact that Gohan and Goku went SSj2 makes the blast even stronger than SSj2, far stronger. |
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| + Pyrus | Sep 23 2012, 07:10 PM Post #44 |
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I normally just went with 3.5-4x when I did power levels. 5x seemed too high to me. |
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Sep 23 2012, 10:12 PM Post #45 |
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Damn, thought these would say something about Gohan's form against Broli w/r/t the Daiz translations ![]() Atleast Goku was stated to have contributed the KHH, plus the fact that the Daiz calls it a 3-Man Kamehameha. BTW, Daiz disregards existence of RSSJ and says Vegeta and Trunks were only SSJ :/ Seeing that Broli has become a Super Saiyan, Goku is convinced that Broli is the Legendary Super Saiyan. Goku, Gohan, and Trunks transform to Super Saiyan!! NORMAL STATE The quiet-seeming Broli. The ring on his head suppresses his power. SUPER SAIYAN His first transformation stage. He already has enough power for Vegeta's attacks to be ineffective! LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN His second transformation stage! His personality becomes wild, and he pushes the limits of destruction. Huh. |
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