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My Final Conclusion; Leave your ignoramus ignorance aside for one moment as I beg on your indulgence for a moment
Topic Started: Sep 22 2012, 03:54 PM (2,178 Views)
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Cooler Tanked kaioken Goku's kamehameha sort like Broly's, he actually swam in the wave lol.
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Sep 22 2012, 06:40 PM
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Sep 22 2012, 06:28 PM
yes he did, not only did he tank it, he braced for it , and goku let him have it.
Exactly, Tao braced for, and IIRC, he was even quite bruised and his clothes were ruined. That's far from tanking. Not to mention that KHH blasts weren't amplified for crap back then...Tao's "tanking" feat really isn't impressive at all next to Broly's.

I've had my fair share, time to sit back and enjoy.
LOL what does that even mean? either you can or you cant, there is no in between.

In the meantime? Tao was just as surprised as goku, and i still dont see the answer for why tao was able to do it.

So in retrospect? anime tao didnt have to brace, he just didnt know what else to do, he cant sense power.

Most people brace when they are about to get hit with something, and tao TANKED that blast head on.

Only his clothes were lost. There is NO difference. Tao= surprised, Goku= spooked

No other way around it IMHO.
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The Kamehameha doesn't naturally amplify your strength. You have to train with it, like Goku did in order to be efficient with it, hence why the amps in DB were hardly there. They certainly weren't 2x, unless you think Goku didn't improve the technique between DB and Z, that it was always 2x no matter what, and that the scouter numbers for BOZ are inaccurate. So unless you think that, which would be difficult to prove, tanking the attack in DB didn't mean much like it did in Z.
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I'll agree that Broly is SSJ2 Tier but over all I see the LSSJ multiplier to be smaller then the SSJ2 multiplier.

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You do know that ssj to lssj is a much bigger boost then base to ssj2

Sircum your off the mark

Producer said broly was the strongest saiyan until movie 10. you guys need to stop putting this fact off. his feats and producer statement prove it

Gohan said broly is as bas as monster as ever. and powered up

which means

Ssj broly m10=lssj broly m8=>base gohan>ssj2 kid gohan.

Hax broly would one shot ssj3 goku.

Lssj broly m10>family kamehameha>>>>>ssj2 goku m10>ssj2 gohan>>>ssj goku m10>ssj3 goku=>ssj gohan>>>ssj2 goku=>base gohan

since broly didnt get scratch.


Broly is that.
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Sep 22 2012, 08:31 PM
The Kamehameha doesn't naturally amplify your strength. You have to train with it, like Goku did in order to be efficient with it, hence why the amps in DB were hardly there. They certainly weren't 2x, unless you think Goku didn't improve the technique between DB and Z, that it was always 2x no matter what, and that the scouter numbers for BOZ are inaccurate. So unless you think that, which would be difficult to prove, tanking the attack in DB didn't mean much like it did in Z.
its considering the tanked attack that gives me pause in the first place, everyone knew even back then, that the kame blast was the ultimate, all of your power in ONE shot.

It didnt work, the main reason? goku was getting WHOOPED on.

in the anime he damn near died from the beating tao gave him, and that was the first fight.

even after goku came down from the tower and the tao ran up the tower, he still almost beat goku.

so yeah, i dont see why amplified attacks or however these guys triple their max power matters to another character that tanks everything youve got to the face.

An amplfier is used for MSSJ, but alot of people find it impossible for goku to even BE MSSJ in movie 8, any more than gohan was. So its possible that gokus kame blast is the same one from movie 7, another movie in which goku was whooped on badly, and had to beat the villain by absorbing the spirit bomb.

i believe in his ki control, i believe that in some way he could amplify his attack to maximum power without using an actual amplifying technique, like the kaioken, if goku had used the super kaioken on broly in movie 8? No question it could have happened, but ive never seen any evidence towards goku doing that without using the kaioken which is his signature ki amplifying technique.

If anything i can see what goku did as his own version of the makkansappo, where gokus kame blast amped up to full power and concentrated into one place would have that effect. Brolys face should have been blown off, but it wasnt.

being about 2 x someones complete max power is an easy stomp. Broly was obviously above gokus full power.

But then it turns out that kame blasts are tankable, but a punch isnt? makes me wonder about the rules of ki blasts in the first place.
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That's all see when I read Ninja's posts. Like seriously, is it too hard to lay out a post in a coherent manner? This forum should have a grammar Nazi rule like kanzenshuu have...
Hell, I don't even disagree that much with where he puts Broly power wise. I just can't stand reading his posts because he tries to deny stated facts and spouts irrelevant nonsense.

I think i'm just going to cut my losses and ignore him so I don't have to withstand his posts.
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Meanwhile ; Super Vegetto: ''He can't get that strong just because he can't"
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contribute to the topic or gtfo. You cant call it irrelevant cause you lack the ability to follow the chain.

This isnt even your final conclusion. So much to say, yet nothing to say at all. Go figure <_<

individual sentences for different tracks of thinking. try to keep up the right way or slow down before you overload.

Help yourself and stay on topic. I think of all variables. You make up stuff as you go, claim they have been stated or whatever, come up with nothing. My conclusions are based on logic and i explain that, im not going to make it easier for you to follow.

So if my posts have you acting like a deusch? then by all means, do me a favor. Cuz im not interested in you feelin like someone peed in your cereal this morning, im here to discuss DBZ. Do that garbage on your own time, when you can use a quarter to call someone who cares.
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:lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl: :lol: :rofl:

On topic, here's what I think:

M10 Broly >/~ Good Buu >> SSJ2 Goku = SSJ2 PoD Vegeta > SSJ2 Kid Gohan >/~ SPC >/~ M8 Broly

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thats the highest i have ever put broly, works for me, especially since goku is still within a stones throw of a full power killing blast.
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Sep 23 2012, 08:53 AM
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Sep 22 2012, 08:31 PM
The Kamehameha doesn't naturally amplify your strength. You have to train with it, like Goku did in order to be efficient with it, hence why the amps in DB were hardly there. They certainly weren't 2x, unless you think Goku didn't improve the technique between DB and Z, that it was always 2x no matter what, and that the scouter numbers for BOZ are inaccurate. So unless you think that, which would be difficult to prove, tanking the attack in DB didn't mean much like it did in Z.
its considering the tanked attack that gives me pause in the first place, everyone knew even back then, that the kame blast was the ultimate, all of your power in ONE shot.

It didnt work, the main reason? goku was getting WHOOPED on.

in the anime he damn near died from the beating tao gave him, and that was the first fight.

even after goku came down from the tower and the tao ran up the tower, he still almost beat goku.

so yeah, i dont see why amplified attacks or however these guys triple their max power matters to another character that tanks everything youve got to the face.

An amplfier is used for MSSJ, but alot of people find it impossible for goku to even BE MSSJ in movie 8, any more than gohan was. So its possible that gokus kame blast is the same one from movie 7, another movie in which goku was whooped on badly, and had to beat the villain by absorbing the spirit bomb.

i believe in his ki control, i believe that in some way he could amplify his attack to maximum power without using an actual amplifying technique, like the kaioken, if goku had used the super kaioken on broly in movie 8? No question it could have happened, but ive never seen any evidence towards goku doing that without using the kaioken which is his signature ki amplifying technique.

If anything i can see what goku did as his own version of the makkansappo, where gokus kame blast amped up to full power and concentrated into one place would have that effect. Brolys face should have been blown off, but it wasnt.

being about 2 x someones complete max power is an easy stomp. Broly was obviously above gokus full power.

But then it turns out that kame blasts are tankable, but a punch isnt? makes me wonder about the rules of ki blasts in the first place.
The punch was a lot stronger than his Kamehameha. Is that a problem?
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SSj2 Goku isn't even near killing Broly. He needs to go SSj3 to do so.

Also, Toei Punch >>>>> KHH.
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Pyrus: yup, unless of course you admit that goku was only using his full power and not some haxxed multiple almost ssj2 theory to make broly even more beastly than he was.

A full power focused attack would have put a hole oin broly with goku at full power, he's not invulnerable.

sircum:SSj2 goku is the only character naturally close to your haxxed broly sircum. You cant go from being the same strength as perfect cell to 2x stronger than goku from a single zenkai that has no proven hax to it.
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Pyrus: yup, unless of course you admit that goku was only using his full power and not some haxxed multiple almost ssj2 theory to make broly even more beastly than he was.

A full power focused attack would have put a hole oin broly with goku at full power, he's not invulnerable.

sircum:SSj2 goku is the only character naturally close to your haxxed broly sircum. You cant go from being the same strength as perfect cell to 2x stronger than goku from a single zenkai that has no proven hax to it.
Huh? Since when was LSSj Broly (M8) Perfect Cell level? He is far above FP PC, and is around SPC.

And yes you can, Perfect Cell proved this himself with his own Zenkai against Gohan, derp derp.

LSSj Broly (M10) will ALWAYS, ALWAYS, win a fight against SSj2 Goku.
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Sep 23 2012, 05:29 PM
SSj2 Goku isn't even near killing Broly. He needs to go SSj3 to do so.
I'm a little doubtful of this myself, but you don't think Goku might be able to it with a FP KHH (5x amp)...?
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