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Gohan vs Broly, potential wise
Topic Started: Sep 19 2012, 12:55 PM (7,730 Views)
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Sep 20 2012, 09:52 PM
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Piccolo says Goku and Majin Vegeta both working together wouldn't have been able to do anything to Buu.

SSJ3 Goku toys with Buu.

Broly got beat by Goku who might not have been there but for Sure Gohan and Goten.

Broly is SSJ2 tier he always has and always will be unless a LSSJ3 movie comes out.
Yes because of fat buu regen. that why they couldnt destroy buu

Broly lost to 2 ssj2 and ssj. not goku by himself. and broly didnt get hurt
Yeah and Broly doesn't have regen, they way he fights SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta could beat him.
broly aint going to get a scratch on him. if 2 ssj2 kamehameha and ssj cant scratch. then what is 2 going to do

And why are people saying gohan potential>broly. compare then potential form when they where enrage as babys and see the difference
1. Broly charges after Goku like the idiot he is while Vegeta sits back a kills him with the Final Impact.

SSJ2 Majin Vegeta> SSJ2 Gohan and MSSJ Goten.

2. Just because Broly was born with a higher power doesn't mean his potential is greater than Gohan's potential.

They way Goku powers up in the Anime his potential seems as great as Broly's.

I'm still going with what I said before though.

Broly's potential= Greatest a Full Saiyan can get till the next LSSJ is born.

Gohan= Greatest Potential of anyone in DBZ besides maybe Goten and Trunks.
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Sep 20 2012, 07:08 AM
Piccolo says Goku and Majin Vegeta both working together wouldn't have been able to do anything to Buu.

SSJ3 Goku toys with Buu.

Broly got beat by Goku who might not have been there but for Sure Gohan and Goten.

Broly is SSJ2 tier he always has and always will be unless a LSSJ3 movie comes out.
Yes because of fat buu regen. that why they couldnt destroy buu

Broly lost to 2 ssj2 and ssj. not goku by himself. and broly didnt get hurt
Yeah and Broly doesn't have regen, they way he fights SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta could beat him.
broly aint going to get a scratch on him. if 2 ssj2 kamehameha and ssj cant scratch. then what is 2 going to do

And why are people saying gohan potential>broly. compare then potential form when they where enrage as babys and see the difference
1. Broly charges after Goku like the idiot he is while Vegeta sits back a kills him with the Final Impact.

SSJ2 Majin Vegeta> SSJ2 Gohan and MSSJ Goten.

2. Just because Broly was born with a higher power doesn't mean his potential is greater than Gohan's potential.

They way Goku powers up in the Anime his potential seems as great as Broly's.

I'm still going with what I said before though.

Broly's potential= Greatest a Full Saiyan can get till the next LSSJ is born.

Gohan= Greatest Potential of anyone in DBZ besides maybe Goten and Trunks.
Lol first broly died of 2 ssj2 and ssj not 1 ssj and ssj2. second im pretty sure 1 ssj and ssj2 would overpower vegeta. veget is about 25% stronger.

Potential is when someone is enrage and the release there hidden power. or near death. like broly went form ssj2 to ssj3 level in one near death. that 7 years of training for goku.

goten and trunks dont have rage boost like broly or gohan does.
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1. Broly charges after Goku like the idiot he is while Vegeta sits back a kills him with the Final Impact.

The Final Impact bounces off Broly's back, shocking Vegeta. This shock quickly morphs into fury, and Vegeta charges into the battle behind Broly, hoping to get him by surprise. The Saiyan prince raises his clasped hands above him, preparing to axehandle the big brute. He yells as he slams his hands into his adversary, only...

"Did you need something?" questions Broly, grabbing Vegeta by the wrists before the hit, much to Vegeta's amazement.

Sensing that Broly is no longer on his tail, Goku slows down, turning to see Vegeta in Broly's grip. The Legendary Super Saiyan twists his body, slamming his soccer ball-sized knee straight into the side of Vegeta's face, causing his lower jaw to shatter. Goku calls out as Vegeta is repeatedly slammed in the face with cruel knees, blood splattering everywhere.

"I've got to do something!" Goku says through gritted teeth. But he's already at Super Saiyan 2. Could he manage to maintain the Super Saiyan 3 form long enough to land a finishing blow to Broly? He couldn't worry about that. He had to risk it. Getting into his power-up posture, the Saiyan's power begins to grow, his aura fiercely contorting around his body, bio-electricity gyrating in the air around him.

BITCHSLAP!

Broly's palm crashes into Goku's chest, catching him completely off-guard, his ribs cracking from the direct impact. Blood and saliva shoot out of his mouth as he's sent hurtling through the air. He isn't able to recover before a hand finds its way right through his gut, pulling his intestines out, killing him.

"All I wanted was the morning newspaper..." murmurs the Legendary Super Saiyan, powering down and jetting off.


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And why are people saying gohan potential>broly. compare then potential form when they where enrage as babys and see the difference
1. Broly charges after Goku like the idiot he is while Vegeta sits back a kills him with the Final Impact.

SSJ2 Majin Vegeta> SSJ2 Gohan and MSSJ Goten.

2. Just because Broly was born with a higher power doesn't mean his potential is greater than Gohan's potential.

They way Goku powers up in the Anime his potential seems as great as Broly's.

I'm still going with what I said before though.

Broly's potential= Greatest a Full Saiyan can get till the next LSSJ is born.

Gohan= Greatest Potential of anyone in DBZ besides maybe Goten and Trunks.
Lol first broly died of 2 ssj2 and ssj not 1 ssj and ssj2. second im pretty sure 1 ssj and ssj2 would overpower vegeta. veget is about 25% stronger.

Potential is when someone is enrage and the release there hidden power. or near death. like broly went form ssj2 to ssj3 level in one near death. that 7 years of training for goku.

goten and trunks dont have rage boost like broly or gohan does.
No Potential is what is the greatest power you can have at your max not what you get when your angry.

And SSJ2 Gohan and MSSJ Goten would not overpower SSJ2 Majin Vegeta they'd get delt with quickly.

SSJ2 Vegeta without his power up is only a little ahead of SSJ2 Kid Gohan and he thinks SSJ2 Teen Gohan is Crap.

SSJ2 Majin Vegeta> SSJ2 Vegeta> SSJ2 Kid Gohan> SSJ2 Teen Gohan> MSSJ Goten.
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1. Broly charges after Goku like the idiot he is while Vegeta sits back a kills him with the Final Impact.

The Final Impact bounces off Broly's back, shocking Vegeta.
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Considering the Final Impact is made to pierce and it pierced a SSJ3 tire I don't see it bouncing off Broly's back.

Or do you think the gap between LSSJ Broly and SSJ2 Majin Vegeta is greater than Fat Buu and SSJ2 Majin Vegeta.

If Krillen can cut Frieza then Vegeta will blast through Broly.
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1. Broly charges after Goku like the idiot he is while Vegeta sits back a kills him with the Final Impact.

The Final Impact bounces off Broly's back, shocking Vegeta.
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Considering the Final Impact is made to pierce and it pierced a SSJ3 tire I don't see it bouncing off Broly's back.

Or do you think the gap between LSSJ Broly and SSJ2 Majin Vegeta is greater than Fat Buu and SSJ2 Majin Vegeta.

If Krillen can cut Frieza then Vegeta will blast through Broly.
I think we had ourselves a bit of a derp moment there, seing as Boo is practically made out of bubble-gum; pretty much any ki blast could pierce through him.
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1. Broly charges after Goku like the idiot he is while Vegeta sits back a kills him with the Final Impact.

The Final Impact bounces off Broly's back, shocking Vegeta.
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Considering the Final Impact is made to pierce and it pierced a SSJ3 tire I don't see it bouncing off Broly's back.

Or do you think the gap between LSSJ Broly and SSJ2 Majin Vegeta is greater than Fat Buu and SSJ2 Majin Vegeta.

If Krillen can cut Frieza then Vegeta will blast through Broly.
Fat Boo wasn't SSjin 3 tier yet when the attack hit him, and it means little anyway. Bullets pierced Super Boo's skin. :rofl:
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not to mention the makkansappo going through raditz as a piercing move.

raditz was two times stronger than piccolo, apparently focusing all of your power in one spot makes it vulnerable. Like the full power focused attack punch goku used to defeat broly.

and the metal cooler clones.
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How is Fat Buu not SSJ3 tire against Vegeta? Vegeta attacks him first and then when Buu fights Vegeta never touches him again.

He's over SSJ2 tier at the least at that point.

Plus Buu's skin is wired sometimes bullets blow holes in him and later he tanks blast from a SSJ Gotenks. The point though is

Final Impact is a move meant to cut threw and kill someone base on Vegeta's reaction when Buu gets up from it. Plus Vegeta didn't use the move on Goku who he just wanted to beat and not kill again.
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no, vegeta wanted to kill goku.

goku wouldnt let him.

plus boos body is bubble gum like for that very reason, its not stable, and an unstable element coupled with regeneration at NO cost of ki is better than being half invulnerable. Boo doesnt even feel pain. broly does.

so its easy to believe a full power attack MEANT to kill would do the job.
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Vegeta states that he wants Goku to live(live dead in other world) with the knowledge of knowing Vegeta is better than him. I don't see anywhere post Frieza saga where Vegeta is trying to kill Goku.
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vegeta didnt win that fight though, and was pissed when he found out that goku was still holding back.

the magic took vegeta past his current limit. Goku was stronger than him anyways.

But i guess he never actually said i want to kill goku. Only implied it 100,000 times. He had to save his son from being killed by boo anyways. Its why he left after sucker punching son goku.
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How is Fat Buu not SSJ3 tire against Vegeta? Vegeta attacks him first and then when Buu fights Vegeta never touches him again.

He's over SSJ2 tier at the least at that point.

Boo powers up twice in his fight with Vegeta. His second power-up, which put him up to SSjin 3 Goku's level, was when he did his Angry Explosion. That's when Vegeta accepted that he was not going to get out of the fight alive. The power-up that Boo did after Dabura made him angry already put him above SSjin 2 Majin Vegeta/SSjin 2 Goku, but then Boo powered up twice more to reach SSjin 3 tier.
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Plus Buu's skin is wired sometimes bullets blow holes in him and later he tanks blast from a SSJ Gotenks. The point though is

Final Impact is a move meant to cut threw and kill someone base on Vegeta's reaction when Buu gets up from it. Plus Vegeta didn't use the move on Goku who he just wanted to beat and not kill again.

How do you know Final Impact was designed to cut through someone? We only saw it used on Fat Boo, who isn't a very good example of tanking things.
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How is Fat Buu not SSJ3 tire against Vegeta? Vegeta attacks him first and then when Buu fights Vegeta never touches him again.

He's over SSJ2 tier at the least at that point.

Boo powers up twice in his fight with Vegeta. His second power-up, which put him up to SSjin 3 Goku's level, was when he did his Angry Explosion. That's when Vegeta accepted that he was not going to get out of the fight alive. The power-up that Boo did after Dabura made him angry already put him above SSjin 2 Majin Vegeta/SSjin 2 Goku, but then Boo powered up twice more to reach SSjin 3 tier.
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Plus Buu's skin is wired sometimes bullets blow holes in him and later he tanks blast from a SSJ Gotenks. The point though is

Final Impact is a move meant to cut threw and kill someone base on Vegeta's reaction when Buu gets up from it. Plus Vegeta didn't use the move on Goku who he just wanted to beat and not kill again.

How do you know Final Impact was designed to cut through someone? We only saw it used on Fat Boo, who isn't a very good example of tanking things.
1. Thanks for mentioning the second power up I forgot about that one.

2. Vegeta is shocked to see Buu survive the attack, he reaction and the shape of the Final Impact tell me it's a killing/piercing move.

Why would Vegeta be shocked to see Buu survive if the attack wasn't suppose to be a killing blow? In this case a piercing move.
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