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Gohan vs Broly, potential wise
Topic Started: Sep 19 2012, 12:55 PM (7,731 Views)
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Piccolo says Goku and Majin Vegeta both working together wouldn't have been able to do anything to Buu.

SSJ3 Goku toys with Buu.

Broly got beat by Goku who might not have been there but for Sure Gohan and Goten.

Broly is SSJ2 tier he always has and always will be unless a LSSJ3 movie comes out.
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Sep 20 2012, 07:08 AM
Piccolo says Goku and Majin Vegeta both working together wouldn't have been able to do anything to Buu.

SSJ3 Goku toys with Buu.

Broly got beat by Goku who might not have been there but for Sure Gohan and Goten.

Broly is SSJ2 tier he always has and always will be unless a LSSJ3 movie comes out.
Boo wasn't being serious in the fight either.
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miguelnuva
Sep 20 2012, 07:08 AM
Piccolo says Goku and Majin Vegeta both working together wouldn't have been able to do anything to Buu.

SSJ3 Goku toys with Buu.

Broly got beat by Goku who might not have been there but for Sure Gohan and Goten.

Broly is SSJ2 tier he always has and always will be unless a LSSJ3 movie comes out.
Yes because of fat buu regen. that why they couldnt destroy buu

Broly lost to 2 ssj2 and ssj. not goku by himself. and broly didnt get hurt
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Sep 20 2012, 08:21 AM
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Sep 20 2012, 07:08 AM
Piccolo says Goku and Majin Vegeta both working together wouldn't have been able to do anything to Buu.

SSJ3 Goku toys with Buu.

Broly got beat by Goku who might not have been there but for Sure Gohan and Goten.

Broly is SSJ2 tier he always has and always will be unless a LSSJ3 movie comes out.
Yes because of fat buu regen. that why they couldnt destroy buu

Broly lost to 2 ssj2 and ssj. not goku by himself. and broly didnt get hurt
Yeah and Broly doesn't have regen, they way he fights SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta could beat him.
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I'd have to side with gohan on this one.....daizenshuu clearly says gohan has more potential than full saiyans. mystic gohan is gohan's full potential, and that far surpasses broly

sorry brolytards

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Sep 20 2012, 10:41 AM
I'd have to side with gohan on this one.....daizenshuu clearly says gohan has more potential than full saiyans. mystic gohan is gohan's full potential, and that far surpasses broly

sorry brolytards

Maybe you missed the part where Elder Kaioshin said he brought Gohan's potential wa~~~~y past its limits for that. Ultimate Gohan is NOT Gohan's full potential...far from it.

Sorry, bro.
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Gohan's potential was a massive part of the entire series, movies and anime included. Although his power was brought way beyond its limits, I still think that his potential roof is much, mu~~~ch higher than Broly's
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Lol at the gang of miguel, freeze, Paikuhan and Slayer facing the gang of experienced and genuine Toriyama haters and Broly ***** suckers.
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Sep 20 2012, 06:38 AM
I see m10 broly high tier ssj3 tier. with ssj3 goku, kid buu. ssj pre gotenks

Fat buu angry explosion couldnt take out vegeta yet broly toying done it in 3 hits. same goes for kid buu who struggled to put vegeta down. And like you said sircum broly was suppressed. he is a saiyan.

Its a fact that broly omega blaster which seem to have no effort towards it and one hand guiding it needed 2 ssj2 and ssj to overpower it. And that blast is already quite ahead of ssj3 itself. and abit weaker then a ssj3 kamehameha. but broly took zero damage form it. which means if broly took a ssj3 kamehameha he wouldnt die nor be seriously injured.

ssj3 is 2-3x of ssj3

a kamehameha form ssj2 and ssj3 is easily 5x of the user

so the family kamehameha is 11x of ssj2. Ssj3 kamehameha would be 10-15x. it means punches and kick would barely do any damage form a ssj3.





u are SUPER confused. that is all.

pyrus: you know full well that elder kai meant that he took all of gohans power and put it in his base form.

after gohan flips out cause he thinks elder kai is playing a game? goku asks exactly WHAT elder kai is doing, and then answered his own question by stating that elder kai is bringing ALL of gohans energy to the surface, and as the ysat down and continued goku asked.

wow, exactly HOW MUCH energy is gohan HIDING??!!

The limits thing was to KILL the need for a transformation. He brought his body beyond its limits to handle his almost unlimited power. Without being able to go SSj gohan wouldnt be able to release that power. But you already knew that.

So elder kai saying he brought gohan out beyond his limits actually meant something but it wasnt his power, cause even goku was tripping on why it was taking so long to do. Gohans hidden power was deep, and elder kai made it so he didnt have to use ki to transform, as he thought it was a waste. Otherwise, why bother?

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Sep 20 2012, 06:47 PM
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Sep 20 2012, 06:38 AM
I see m10 broly high tier ssj3 tier. with ssj3 goku, kid buu. ssj pre gotenks

Fat buu angry explosion couldnt take out vegeta yet broly toying done it in 3 hits. same goes for kid buu who struggled to put vegeta down. And like you said sircum broly was suppressed. he is a saiyan.

Its a fact that broly omega blaster which seem to have no effort towards it and one hand guiding it needed 2 ssj2 and ssj to overpower it. And that blast is already quite ahead of ssj3 itself. and abit weaker then a ssj3 kamehameha. but broly took zero damage form it. which means if broly took a ssj3 kamehameha he wouldnt die nor be seriously injured.

ssj3 is 2-3x of ssj3

a kamehameha form ssj2 and ssj3 is easily 5x of the user

so the family kamehameha is 11x of ssj2. Ssj3 kamehameha would be 10-15x. it means punches and kick would barely do any damage form a ssj3.





u are SUPER confused. that is all.

pyrus: you know full well that elder kai meant that he took all of gohans power and put it in his base form.

after gohan flips out cause he thinks elder kai is playing a game? goku asks exactly WHAT elder kai is doing, and then answered his own question by stating that elder kai is bringing ALL of gohans energy to the surface, and as the ysat down and continued goku asked.

wow, exactly HOW MUCH energy is gohan HIDING??!!

The limits thing was to KILL the need for a transformation. He brought his body beyond its limits to handle his almost unlimited power. Without being able to go SSj gohan wouldnt be able to release that power. But you already knew that.

So elder kai saying he brought gohan out beyond his limits actually meant something but it wasnt his power, cause even goku was tripping on why it was taking so long to do. Gohans hidden power was deep, and elder kai made it so he didnt have to use ki to transform, as he thought it was a waste. Otherwise, why bother?

Putting Gohan's power into his regular form does not in any way equate to what Elder Kaioshin said. I don't know how you could've gotten that from his statement.

Chapter: 479 (DBZ 285), P10.1-5
Context: Elder Kaioshin explains his ‘ability’
Elder Kaioshin: “With my psychic powers, I can take the hidden power which anyone has, no matter how amazing a master they may be, and draw it wa~~ay, wa~~ay out above their limits. Ehehehehe…Have you ever heard of an ability like that?”
Kaioshin and Kibito: “Oooh!”
Goku: “Wh-what?...Ain’t that the kind of ability you hear about fairly often?”
Elder Kaioshin: “Wh-what are you talking about…?! Above their limits! Above! There de~~efinitely isn’t anyone else that incredible! [ ] Hey, you over there, you were the one who pulled the sword out, right? Come over here a little. If someone could pull that sword out and swing it around, then once I get through with them they’ll de~~efinitely be able to become the best in the universe.”
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so then i guess gokus retort means nothing then huh?

since bringing out their LIMIT is what both elder namek and a few others have also done to gohan an kuririn before.

Goku clowned what he said an he tried to amend it realizing it was nothing special. The limit is what someone is able to do now. Could gohan access ALL of his power now? NO.

not to mention elder kai realized gohan pulled out the sword. if he was TRULY able to do that? then why not to shin or kibit? they couldnt pull it out at all. If he could really do that? then he could have done that to all of them goku included, GT not withstanding.
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Sep 20 2012, 09:31 AM
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Sep 20 2012, 08:21 AM
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Sep 20 2012, 07:08 AM
Piccolo says Goku and Majin Vegeta both working together wouldn't have been able to do anything to Buu.

SSJ3 Goku toys with Buu.

Broly got beat by Goku who might not have been there but for Sure Gohan and Goten.

Broly is SSJ2 tier he always has and always will be unless a LSSJ3 movie comes out.
Yes because of fat buu regen. that why they couldnt destroy buu

Broly lost to 2 ssj2 and ssj. not goku by himself. and broly didnt get hurt
Yeah and Broly doesn't have regen, they way he fights SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta could beat him.
broly aint going to get a scratch on him. if 2 ssj2 kamehameha and ssj cant scratch. then what is 2 going to do

And why are people saying gohan potential>broly. compare then potential form when they where enrage as babys and see the difference
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Gohan might have SSJ after his Mystic Powerup.

Most consider it a GT plothole, (I myself consider if fishy), but it's never outright said that he doesn't have SSJ anymore.
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Sep 20 2012, 10:01 PM
Gohan might have SSJ after his Mystic Powerup.

Most consider it a GT plothole, (I myself consider if fishy), but it's never outright said that he doesn't have SSJ anymore.
Old Kai said he doesn't like transformations, and Gohan doesn't transform against Gotenks-Buu. That's honestly all I need. That alone is better than going off of the assumption that "It's not stated, so it may not be true" IMO.....

On top of that, Old Kai described Gohan powering up as "doing that Super Saiyan thing." If he had Super Saiyan, "doing that Super Saiyan thing" would make him go Super Saiyan.
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Sep 20 2012, 11:08 PM
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Sep 20 2012, 10:01 PM
Gohan might have SSJ after his Mystic Powerup.

Most consider it a GT plothole, (I myself consider if fishy), but it's never outright said that he doesn't have SSJ anymore.
Old Kai said he doesn't like transformations, and Gohan doesn't transform against Gotenks-Buu. That's honestly all I need. That alone is better than going off of the assumption that "It's not stated, so it may not be true" IMO.....

On top of that, Old Kai described Gohan powering up as "doing that Super Saiyan thing." If he had Super Saiyan, "doing that Super Saiyan thing" would make him go Super Saiyan.
All of Gohan's power was converted to his regular form. Transforming wouldn't have done anything except change his hair color and put more strain on his body, so there would've been no point.

Chapter: 496 (DBZ 302), P4.1-2
Gohan: “Ho-how can I turn into this mightiest of warriors!?”
Elder Kaioshin: “You transform into that Super whatever-it-is a lot, right? You’ll be fine if you just get the gist of that, and throw in a kiai.”
Gohan: “The gist of Super Saiyan…I-I got it…!”

Your second point is but a fool's gamble!
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