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This is what I call, the Toeiverse, (Movie 8 Broly is haxed)
Topic Started: Sep 17 2012, 09:25 PM (2,425 Views)
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M8 broly feats and producer puts broly in m8 the strongest until buu saga. toei aint going to make a transformation that a normal saiyan can overpower

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I definitely agree that Broly is worlds above any Cell era character (save Hatchiyack). TOEI states that Broly (in his LSSj form) is a bottomless super power (Which is why I have his LSSj form as such a massive multiplier). Though technically Broly himself wasn't "haxed" as he was created to be the strongest saiyan ever in a class of his own. It's in Movie 10 where Gohan & Goku are haxed IMO (& Goku remains haxed as we see in the later movies M12 & M13, & Gohan gets his Ultimate power up from the Elder Kai as well). I think it's entirely possible in M8 for the gap between Goku & Broly (in equivalent forms) to be the same as when they were infants.

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Baby Broly (Suppressed) 10,000

M8/Hatchiyack OVA/Cell Games:

Base Goku 2,000,000,000,000
MSSj Goku 100,000,000,000,000

"Blow of Miracles" used against LSSJ Broly 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

"Super Spirit Bomb" used against Super Hatchiyack 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Base Broly (Extremely suppressed) 100,000,000,000

RSSj Broly (Extremely suppressed vs Base Goku) 5,000,000,000,000

RSSj Broly (Suppressed vs Super Vegeta kick) 250,000,000,000,000

RSSj Broly (Suppressed vs Super Vegeta chi blast) 500,000,000,000,000

RSSj Broly (Max power before going LSSJ) 5,000,000,000,000,000

Base Broly (Unrestricted/True Power) 10,000,000,000,000,000

MSSj Broly (Unrestricted/True Power) 500,000,000,000,000,000

LSSj Broly (Initial) 5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

LSSj Broly (1st Power up) 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

LSSj Broly (2nd Power up) 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

LSSj Broly (3rd Power up/Max) 500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Hatchiyack 600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Giant Hatchiyack 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Super Hatchiyack 60,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
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None of these numbers make any sense.

broly isnt >> anyone involved with ssj2 gohan or even SPC, SPC had bottomless power, and as we all know the DBZ fighters RUN OUT OF ENERGY when they fight, brolys Bottomless power is just that, it doesnt make him limitless in strength, i will never understand brolytards and how they can quantify making broly so strong when he died in all 3 movies by lesser beings.

You cant hax the main character, broly himself was haxxed just to fight gohan.

his retconned death was hax. The zenkai from his death was a hax.

his power as a baby didnt mean anything to frieza. Only king vegeta.

Broly doesnt eat anyone here. His power is still that of a super saiyan, hence his name.

Broly being set up a the strongest saiyan IN THE MOVIE doesnt trickle over, its a movie, and broly does not exist outside of that movie.

Movie 10 goku didnt help with the kameblast, toei keeps telling people that with their video games.

toei movies, toei games, toei characters. Might as well say all gokus in every movie is haxxed to make you feel better.

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From what I just read, you're claiming Goku didn't contribute to the Kamehameha at the end of Movie 10, correct? I disagree. His footsteps were heard, everybody saw him, Broly's blast noticeably slowed down when Goku put his chi in, and the Dragon Balls scattered, which they wouldn't if nothing happened.
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Oct 14 2012, 07:45 PM
None of these numbers make any sense.

broly isnt >> anyone involved with ssj2 gohan or even SPC, SPC had bottomless power, and as we all know the DBZ fighters RUN OUT OF ENERGY when they fight, brolys Bottomless power is just that, it doesnt make him limitless in strength, i will never understand brolytards and how they can quantify making broly so strong when he died in all 3 movies by lesser beings.

You cant hax the main character, broly himself was haxxed just to fight gohan.

his retconned death was hax. The zenkai from his death was a hax.

his power as a baby didnt mean anything to frieza. Only king vegeta.

Broly doesnt eat anyone here. His power is still that of a super saiyan, hence his name.

Broly being set up a the strongest saiyan IN THE MOVIE doesnt trickle over, its a movie, and broly does not exist outside of that movie.

Movie 10 goku didnt help with the kameblast, toei keeps telling people that with their video games.

toei movies, toei games, toei characters. Might as well say all gokus in every movie is haxxed to make you feel better.


I never claimed Broly had limitless strength, just that he was so powerful compared to everyone else that it seemed that way. And what do you mean you can't hax the main character? Goku is haxed in M12 & M13, I may be mistaken about baby Broly's power level, so I'll edit that. Anyone who's seen M10 knows that Goku assisted in the Kamehameha struggle. The only reason they manged to win was because Broly chose to toy the entire time in the struggle rather than just finish them off. Trunks' ki blast prevented Broly from pushing forward his blast, which gave Goku & Gohan the time they needed to pull off an SSj2 burst whithought Broly being able to counter it. That blast only pushed Broly through the core of the sun. It's that which actually killed him, not the Goku family themselves. And Broly being set up as the strongest saiyan does in fact matter. SPC doesn't have anywhere near bottomless power, I have yet to see anything in the Diaz or manga saying that. M8 LSSj Broly's powerlevel was so monstrous that it was felt in other galaxies (piccolo mentioned that he could sense Broly' power from the lookout on earth).
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