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did gohan turn ssj or ssj 2 to defeat broly?
Topic Started: Sep 15 2012, 05:56 PM (19,678 Views)
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Sep 16 2012, 11:37 PM
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Sep 16 2012, 11:30 PM
Alright, look at this:

first, unless you're showing me a scan or link or something, Daiz doesn't say M8 is right before Cell Games for all I know.

And since Gohan is weaker than Goku in M8, AND has his Androids Saga outfit + haircut? And because production of M8 started before their power was revealed? The M8 Z-Fighters are weaker than Cell Saga counterparts

And a weak SSJ Goku beat LSSJ Broly with the power of three half-dead, weaker base saiyans, and one half-dead weaker Super Namek.

Which is why LSSJ Broly is maybe MSSJ Goku (Canon) or above this at best.

As for M10, LSSJ Broly only stomped MSSJ Teen Gohan, putting him at Dabra/FP-PC tier at most.
1) Awesome sauce, so when does it take place, hmm?

2) TOEI didn't know anything about Gohan's power, and Goku's always the hero in TOEI productions. Outfit doesn't mean much considering the fact that he's a Super Saiyan. :p Syn can give you screenshots.

3) So TOEI Hax Goku punch > Goku's KHH >>>> Goku. No point in questioning it, it's what happened. It's what TOEI gave us. You can't just take this one thing and hope to ignore all the other evidence.

4) SSJ2 Teen Gohan. Explain the 2 bangs when using the KHH initially, and the 1 bang when fighting Broly, son. :lol:
1.) It takes place in an AU where the powers are messed up, because Toei couldn't have known.

2.) Give me the screenshots. And again, they don't know about Gohan's power, therefore the powers are messed up.

3.) Yes, this is true, his punch WITH THE EXTRA POWER is greater than his KHH. MSSJ Goku beat LSSJ Broly, simple.

4.) That's not two bangs, thats one bang and a strand of hair. Gohan's strand of hair was merely blown behind his bang, if you look closely you can see it.
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LSSj Broly >> SSj2 Goku = Majin Vegeta > SSj2 Movie 10 Gohan > SSj2 Kid Gohan >Movie 8 LSSj Broly SSj2 Budokai Gohan > SPC > FP PC.

What a second.

If Gohan trained for 7 years like your saying how in the blue h*ll did Goku and Vegeta surpass him in the same form.
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Alright, I don't need to post anymore. I will just, repeat, everything I have ever posted, ever. Incoming the huge post, and you guys *****ing asked for it.

""He's as bad a monster as ever!", Gohan stated as his quick fight with Broly ends with him turning SSJ2.

SSj Broly was stated to be stronger than MSSJ Goku (Buu Saga) in the Daizenshuu.

In Movie 8, LSSJ Broly was stated several times of having the most awesome and incredible Ki, even as an RSSJ he was stated to have it. (Refer to Movie 8 Weekend Research thread), Piccolo said LSSj Broly's Ki is like it's trembling awesomely, Goku stated that RSSJ Broly's Ki has incredible Ki. Keep in mind this Movie took place in the 10 day gap, says the Daiz, meaning RSSJ Broly has to surpass even suppressed Cell's power (the one against Vegeta). The fact that Goku was so shocked about RSSJ Broly's power leads me to believe RSSJ Broly is already ahead of MSSJ Goku, meaning RSSJ Broly in M8 should be around the Cell that fought Goku. Cell's Full Power is THAT above the one that fought Goku. We don't even know where Cell's Full Power is to being with, his Kamehameha used against Gohan should be around SSj2 Gohan because of the 5x amplifier.

Lets proceed to LSSj Broly in M8. Wherever you have LSSJ Broly's multiplier, it doesn't matter. He is on par with Full Power Perfect Cell, AT THE LEAST. Ignoring the tank of the Kamehameha is what people do, sure, then I will ignore Cell's Kamehameha against Gohan which lead Gohan to use his own to deflect it. See? I can play this game too.

MSSJ Goku: 25
MSSJ Goku's ITT Kamehameha: 125
MSSJ Goku's KHH against Broly: 100
Toei Punch: 250

Full Power Perfect Cell: 60-80
~Kamehameha: 300
Cell (against Goku): 25

MSSJ Gohan (Cell Games): 35
SSJ2 Gohan: 70
~Rage Boost: 140


Zenkai Cell: 120

I'm being way too generous to people on where I have Goku's KHH against Broly. It should be dead on with the one he used against Cell.

Movie 8:
RSSJ Broly: 40
LSSJ Broly: 125

MSSJ Gohan: 25, it still doesn't matter if he is his Cell Games self, he still wouldn't be the hero.

Now, Lets use Buu Saga Numbers here:

MSSJ Goku: 90
SSJ2 Goku: 180
SSJ3 Goku: 720

SSJ Vegeta: 75
SSJ2 Vegeta: 150
~Prince of Destruction: 180

MSSJ Gohan: 30
SSJ2 Gohan: 60
~Rage Boost: 120

Movie 10:

SSJ Broly: 125
LSSJ Broly: 390 (with the power shown)

Take the Zenkai given to Broly into account (AT's Zenkai to be exact)
SSJ Broly: 187.5
LSSJ Broly: 585

MSSJ Gohan: 35
~ Rage Boost induced SSJ2 Gohan: 140

MSSJ Goku: 90
SSJ2 Goku: 180

Honestly, I can continue further without calculating the Kamehameha amplifier in the end of Movie 10.

But what I can say, right now, is that it does take an SSJ2 to defeat SSJ Broly (M10) and LSSJ Broly (M8), and an SSJ3 to defeat LSSJ Broly (Movie 10).

Multipliers and Amps:
Toei Punch: 10x the original power of the user
Kamehameha: 5x
Rage Boost: varies.

RSSJ: 45x Base
SSJ: 50x base
SSJ2: 100x Base
LSSJ: 315x base (3.125x SSJ)
SSJ3: 400x base.

Zenkai: 1.5-2x
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There was a distinct differentiation between MSSJ Gohan and SSJ2 Gohan in hairstyle, demeanor, and if you look close enough, the eyes.

And why would Gohan neglect to use the strongest form he had when he was getting killed by Broly?

Look at Gohan M10, and look at MSSJ Gohan in the bottom right corner. Do they really look the same?

As for a hypothetical SSJ2 Goku, this has been shown many times before; do note that when M10 came out, burst SSJ2 Goku against Yakon and the statement he ascended beyond SSJ already came out:

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And the really funny part is how in this case, the biothunder was anime embellishment. Now, compare these pics to SSJ Goku:

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Not only a clear picture of SSJ Goku around the time in the series where Broly would fit in, but also two good pictures of his hair affected by wind. Now for the Kamehameha/wind theory for his hair:

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SSJ2 Goku appeared in M10, weather you liked it or not.

"The Southern Galaxy has fallen under Super Saiyan attack"

Broly should be SSJ or RSSJ during that time... King Kai states that by then Broly would arrive at the Northern Galaxy.

I've skipped to Paragas's arrival. Paragas says that they were looking for him.

Kai-Sama tells Goku something terrible happened and the Earth may be destroyed.

Paragas wants Vegeta to be king of New Planet Vegeta as usual, and rising to the highest empire. He says Vegeta is the only one able to defeat the Legendary Super Saiyan, who Paragas says is blowing ***** up like a gangsta.

Trunks failed to convince Vegeta to stay. Trunks called Bulma "Mom", if that stands for anything.

Goku eats a ***** ton. Kai says that Broly is finishing destroying the South Galaxy, and that his Galaxy is next.

"Goku, it's possivle that his power may even be greater than that of you guys."

"Wow! He's that strong!" Goku got excited, he tries to sense Broly's ki. "There it is, it's weak but it's definitely Saiyan Ki!"

He arrived. "He ain't here, but for him to leave this incredible Ki behind..." So RSSJ Broly might have stronger KI then Perfect Cell who fought Trunks and Vegeta, and stronger than Goku and Gohan as well.

"This is the Ki I felt, it could be like Kaio-Sama was saying his power is higher than even ours!"

So it's proven that RSSJ Broly > MSSJ Goku and Gohan.

We are back to backstory about Planet Vegeta and new Planet Vegeta.

Paragas said Vegeta can use Broli anyway he likes. Broli says he is a Saiyan himself.

He tells Broli to follow him to face the Legendary Super Saiyan. Gohan, Trunks and Krillin discuss the validity of there actually being an LSS, they save the servants. Gohan fights the overseers alongside Krillin and Trunks. Krillin lands a punch on Goku. Krillin is haxed.

Paragas calls Goku the child of Bardock. Goku is hungry and eats almost everything. Goku says the Ki he felt isn't from Paragas.

Trunks says there is no way Broli is the LSSJ, this means that Paragas's suppression is working just fine. Paragas kills one of his own henchmen. He convinces Vegeta that they will find the LSSJ soon enough. Goku tells Vegeta he knows about the LSSJ and Vegeta is convinced on killing him.

Broly and Goku have a standoff, Paragas is trying to suppress Broly's power, Roshi interferes. Broly calms down a bit. Paragas and the octopus guy create a new type of suppressing tool.

"Broli, what the hell is the matter with you, is it Kakorat? Does this mean that Broli's instincts as a Saiyan have been awakened by Kakarrot's power, and he is starting to overcome the limits of my control? If so, then all the trouble i've gone to will be..."

Flashback seen shows a teenage Broly destroying planets with no tool on restraint on him, but then Broli attacking Paragas as more of an adult which led to Paragas creating the restraint. Broly is against it, he turns RSSJ or something in the flashbacks but Paragas was able to manipulate it.

Now it shows Broli sitting in his chair, getting angry and another flashback of Broli's PL of 10,000 and Goku's of 2. "No matter what, I must control Broli, or he will destroy the whole universe!"

Broli goes RSSJ. "Kakarrot-o!"

Roshi is cuddling Oolong's foot as Goku's sleeping. Broly arrives and tries to punch Goku, he throws a bed at Krillin and Gohan and Goku is getting angry at Broly. "Oh Hell!" Paragas states.

Goku kicks Broly, making him bleed from the mouth, Goku dodges several Ki Beams. Broli is getting angrier and this time we see him having more of a blacker hair than his usual purple one, he says "Kakarrot!" and tries to strike him one more. Goku kicks him and Broly licks the wound, he lets go of over a dozen beams as Goku dodged each of them. Broly somewhat tanks Goku's punch.

Broly gets angrier and goes RSSJ or powers up. Goku states this is the Ki he felt from before. Paragas eases Broly with his device. Goku noticed Broli is the one who destroyed the South Galaxy, yes...Destroyed it. The comet approaches.

Paragas tries to convince Vegeta to wait until tomorrow and to stop trying to leave. Broli is getting angrier now, Goku is in the spaceship. He tells Vegeta Broli is the LSSJ.

"How could Broli, with power lower than my own be the LSSJ?" Paragas said. His suppressing ***** really does work, lol.

The servants noticed Broly is the one who destroyed their planet, pointing to base Broly, "I-it's him! He's the one who devastated our world!"

Paragas says his true plans. Broli is getting enraged, he walks towards Goku and goes RSSJ, "The LSSJ!" Vegeta says going SSJ and kicking Broly, that Broli tanked. "He didn't so much as blink over Vegeta's attack!" Goku was impressed. He hops back claiming that his name is Goku. Paragas laughs, he feels like he doesn't need to suppress Broli anymore. Vegeta uses whatever Ki Blast he wanted to use but missed. Broli didn't flinch.

Broli is powering up a mad-load now, the Earth is literally shaking, Paragas is telling Broli to stop. Broli ignores him, and proceeds to go LSSj, Vegeta reverts back to base. "The LSSJ!" Vegeta said.

"Kakarrot, you will be the first blood sacrifice!" Broli shouts. Gohan tries to protect him. He goes for the kill but Gohan was pushed by Broly. They fly away like faggots. "The LSSJ!" Vegeta says once more.

"We'll be killed! We'll be all killed! He is the LSSJ!", Paragas tells his backstory. Paragas says Broli has enough power to rule the Universe, not only Earth. Broli laughs at the Saiyans going MSSJ and Trunks transforming.

"There is no way to win! He's the LSSJ!" Vegeta says.

Broli strikes them all, easily chasing after them. "It looks as though you've finally decided to fight. Did you think you could defeat me with that level of power?" Broli says.

"Broli...You've realsly surprised me, you really are strong, huh? So shall we begin the second round?" Goku says.

Roshi does his drunken *****. Broly destroys Planet Shamo with one blast, as the servants cry. "He's the devil!" Gohan said. Trunks said if Broly continues, he will destroy the whole universe.

Broly threatens Gohan, Goku tells him to run but Gohan refuses, Gohan still left. Broly gets rid of Goku and Trunks and proceeds to chase Gohan, making him revert back to base. Broly gets both Trunks and Goku and drags them through buildings, Goku gets angry of how much Gohan got hurt. Broly repeats blasting Ki Blasts as Goku protects himself through all of them, but the last one got him. "My Ki is rising, it's overflowing!" Broly said, releasing several blasts.

Each Saiyan is in base. Piccolo defends Gohan. He gives everyone a Senzu beam. "The Ki I feel is so incredible it's like trembling...You guys sure got yourselves on awesome freak of an opponent, didn't you?"

The planet only has a few hours left.

Everyone is back to their MSSJ/USSJ forms, Broly tanks punches and kicks from Goku and Piccolo, Trunks and Gohan both draw an Masenko in which Broly tanked. Piccolo gets drop kicked as Gohan and Trunks get owned.

Vegeta says it's over. Piccolo gives Vegeta a motivational speech. Goku and Gohan both get owned once more. Broly is once more stated to be strong enough to end the Universe. "I may be tough but that guy is something else!" Goku said.

Goku launches his KHH, Broly tanks it. "What was that just now?" Broly asked, punching Goku. Vegeta is angry, he goes SSJ and proceeds to go for the kill, but gets shat on. "I am Vegeta!!"

Broly tanks Ki blasts and punches from Vegeta and Trunks, Trunks gets punched away and Vegeta is one-shot and reverts back to base. "Scum is scum" Broly said.

He powers up and kills Paragas. "Did you think it would take the explosion of a planet for me to die?"

MSSJ Goku walks towards Broly as the rest are half-dead. Goku also absorbs the Ki/power and Broly states it has to be this or it's not fun. Goku is launched towards several *****ing rocks by one blast from Broly. Broly at this point is torturing Goku "Give me Power!! Vegeta!"

Vegeta says no. Goku is still getting tortured half to death, "Give me pwoer...Power to defeat him..Give me Power!!" he shouts. Vegeta gives his power nonetheless, in which Goku finally stops, gaining aura and what not.

And then Broly gets one shot, as usual. Everyone was giving their power until Vegeta so Goku was still powering up as Broly was owning him.

But Broly gets oneshotted."

The intro shows the Great Saiyaman.
Maroon, 18 and Krillin.
AND Goku with a halo, this is definitely taking place around when Goku came back and left.

Now Movie 10
Trunks stated that Videl wanted to see Shenron

Videl really wants to see Shenron.

Goten considers Videl a sister "Sis...You Hit me!" when Videl slapped her when he wanted to
reach the food. So Goten knew Videl for a bit of time.

Trunks also considers Videl as "Sis"

Videl considers the dinosaur as too much for the kids to handle.

Now on to the Broly fight.

Videl levitates infront of the water, or you can consider it flying so she has been through Gohan's training.

Broly's smirk seems like he's just playing around as he hits Videl and w/e.

Broly is reminded of Goku when he sees Goten, Goten never knew Goku's Saiyan name when Broly mutters Kakkorat.

Gohan senses "An Incredible Ki", he states this as Broly was still an SSj.

Goten and Trunks revert to base just from Broly launching a Ki to the floor. He tanks both their punches.

The Four star Dragonball was found. Trunks stated to Goten "It wssn't supposed to be like this!" as they were getting their ***** kicked.

They plan to summon Shenron to take care of SSj Broly.

Gohan still flew. Videl says Broly is going to pay for what he's done.

Broly tanks several ki beams from SSj Trunks. Goten is pissing.

Trunks was easily defeated, wanting Goten to come. Goten found the ball again.

Trunks says Broly isn't playing by the rules, Trunks also wants to piss.

Trunks pissed on Broly.

Broly's blast missed them, but they still got hurt.

Gohan comes and saves the day, Base Gohan's blast deflected Broly's.

Broly suddenly shows Kakkarot-O a ***** ton.

Gohan stands, watching him. "Broli! Are you still alive?!"

Trunks and Goten celebrate Gohan's arrival. Gohan states that it is amazing that they are in "good shape" from fighting Broli.

They ask who Broli is. Gohan states why Broli was too much a hassle for them seven years ago. "So that's it. You were chasing after Dad. But Dad isn't around anymore. So in my dad's place, I will defeat you!" Gohan states while in base.

"Awesome!" Trunks states watching the fight.

"He's as bad a monster as ever! And here i'm supposed to have powered up considerably since back then!"

Broly just laughs and says Kakkarot.

He tanks Videl's kick, powers up or something, and goes on still head to head with Gohan. launching a Ki Blast while laughing, the blast supposed to have hit Gohan but went for the kids and Videl. Gohan rages and powers-up while in base to deflect it, he kind of did but the blast still hurt the kids.

Gohan is now pissed as Broly laughs his ***** off. He goes to SSj2, enraged at Broly.

Broly still laughed, that's of course until he sees SSJ2 Gohan. He goes LSSj.

Broly tanks the punch, hits Gohan back. The fight goes on as usual with Broly having the advantage tanking a punch and a kick. He's using his Back breaking maneuver with Gohan looking at the lava afterwards.

"That's the only way I can defeat Broli!" as he looks towards the Lava. This means Gohan knows his SSj2 is no match for Broly. Broly falls for it like so, but we all know he survives with his Ki Shield.

Krillin saves Base Gohan who's clothes are ruined.

Krillin has a lot of hair, but no moustache.

Broly comes back, smiling as his Ki Shield is around him.

Krillin apologizes to 18 for fighting Broly but gets one-shotted and it's over. Gohan survives Broly's Omega Eraser (not to be confused with Blaster). Broly is torturing Gohan over and over, the dragonballs are set free.

Broly laughs as he enjoys torturing Gohan. Bear hug time, Broly puts more pressure but Videl throws a crystal, Broly is distracted and deflects the crystal. Gohan is enraged, goes SSj and launches his KHH.

"iI am the daughter of Mr. Satan"

Broly destroys the crystal. Gohan is outraged "You Bastard!"

"That would be useless, I'll put you to rest now!" as Broly sees Gohan launching his KHH. The Omega Blaster is winning, Goten comes. They are still losing as Broly laughs his ***** off even more, there is no evening out.

Trunks wakes up. "Our power is not enough, we need more power!" Gohan says as Goten wishes for Goku.

"What are you doing giving up over just that!? You have to use up every last bit of power you hold!" Goten recognizes Goku's voice.

"There ain't anything else!" Goku comes by. Goten smiles. Goku goes SSj and launches his KHH. "Shen Long brought Father here!" Goten says.

Broly sees Goku, he stumbled. They are still losing.

"Gohan, you ain't giving enough power! Goten, don't be scared!" Goku knows Goten's name.

"is it fine with you guys if the Earth is smashed to pieces by Broli!? Can't you protect if it I ain't around!?" Broly laughs more launching his Ki Balls.

Trunks launches his blast, "Damn...To think there's a guy out there that our powers can't reach..." Trunks says. He throws the blast. "If im dreaming wake me up!" Broly laughs, trying to launch more but notices Trunk's blast. The more he launches the more it doesn't go through. "Now!" Goku says as he goes SSj2 with Gohan. Broly's ki shield competed with the blast for about 3 seconds but we are shown no damage from Broly until he hits the sun, meaning that he could have survived it and that's what everyone thinks.

The Dragonballs are scattered. "Dad!" Gohan says but Goku disappeared. "Dad you did come here didn't you?"

Yeah, he did.

Videl celebrates with Gohan, as she starts chasing after Gohan.

Derp, the kids are hungry.

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Sep 16 2012, 11:40 PM
@nimbus:

AT didn't write the story for the movie. And my quote merely gives us his thoughts on Broly's power; he never "intended" for Broly to be anywhere.

derp. My quote > Your quote.
Are you going to now deny Toriyama's sketch of Broly where he says Broly got a zenkai?

His assistant said Toriyama was reminding himself what to say in interviews, and what he thought of the movie and Broly's power.
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LSSj Broly >> SSj2 Goku = Majin Vegeta > SSj2 Movie 10 Gohan > SSj2 Kid Gohan >Movie 8 LSSj Broly SSj2 Budokai Gohan > SPC > FP PC.

What a second.

If Gohan trained for 7 years like your saying how in the blue h*ll did Goku and Vegeta surpass him in the same form.
Well, he still depended on Goku to come, didn't he?
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And of course Toriyama likely saw the movie and thoughts on it from Toei before anyone else did, derp, because he noted how LSSJ Broly trashed SSJ Gohan.
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I'm lost now....I'll just give my opinion real quick and lurk around for opportunities...

M10 Broly >>> SSJ2s > SPC >/~ M8 Broly >/>> FP PC >>> MSSJs
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Sep 16 2012, 11:46 PM
And of course Toriyama likely saw the movie and thoughts on it from Toei before anyone else did, derp, because he noted how LSSJ Broly trashed SSJ Gohan.
Nimbus, please.
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Sep 16 2012, 11:31 PM
Found a quote after searching around the internet for a long time. You guys oughta thank me for this.

Akira Toriyama
 
The Legenday Supa Saiya-jin, Broli, is most likely much stronger than Supa Saiya-jin Tsu Son Goku and Bejita.


"The Legendary Super Saiyan, Broly, is most likely much stronger than Super Saiyan 2 Goku and Vegeta".
Hah, way ahead of you buddy. This is what his assistant who worked on him w/ DB has to say in an interview:

Takashi Matsuyama
 
Ha ha, Akira was a very forgetful man when it came to Doragon Boru! He didn't put nearly as much thought into powers as the fans did. He usually contradicted himself many times talking about it, and I found this note from him in his design of Burori: "Reminder: I meant to make him similar to Dabura in terms of power. Both of them regarded a Supa-Saiyajin Son Gohan as trash. Note this in interviews." I asked him about it when he talked about Burori and said he was stronger than Supa-Saiyajin (Two) Goku or Bejita. He said that he completely forgot about that, and made it up on the spot. In the end, I guess Dentetsu no Supa-Saiyajin Burori was really strong as Dabura, ha-ha!
Just requoting this before it gets lost in the huge posts.
Again, look at it: Toriyama says LSSJ Broly M10 is similar to Dabura in power, and he mentions Broly trashing SSJ Gohan.
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Nimbus, please. stahp. for the love of god it's not funny anymore.
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Stop the truth?

It hurts. But I won't stop.
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Nimbus i'm serious.

Miguel and Ninjajp + Brofist are enough.
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Sep 16 2012, 11:36 PM
Alright, I don't need to post anymore. I will just, repeat, everything I have ever posted, ever. Incoming the huge post, and you guys *****ing asked for it.

""He's as bad a monster as ever!", Gohan stated as his quick fight with Broly ends with him turning SSJ2.

SSj Broly was stated to be stronger than MSSJ Goku (Buu Saga) in the Daizenshuu.

In Movie 8, LSSJ Broly was stated several times of having the most awesome and incredible Ki, even as an RSSJ he was stated to have it. (Refer to Movie 8 Weekend Research thread), Piccolo said LSSj Broly's Ki is like it's trembling awesomely, Goku stated that RSSJ Broly's Ki has incredible Ki. Keep in mind this Movie took place in the 10 day gap, says the Daiz, meaning RSSJ Broly has to surpass even suppressed Cell's power (the one against Vegeta). The fact that Goku was so shocked about RSSJ Broly's power leads me to believe RSSJ Broly is already ahead of MSSJ Goku, meaning RSSJ Broly in M8 should be around the Cell that fought Goku. Cell's Full Power is THAT above the one that fought Goku. We don't even know where Cell's Full Power is to being with, his Kamehameha used against Gohan should be around SSj2 Gohan because of the 5x amplifier.

Lets proceed to LSSj Broly in M8. Wherever you have LSSJ Broly's multiplier, it doesn't matter. He is on par with Full Power Perfect Cell, AT THE LEAST. Ignoring the tank of the Kamehameha is what people do, sure, then I will ignore Cell's Kamehameha against Gohan which lead Gohan to use his own to deflect it. See? I can play this game too.

MSSJ Goku: 25
MSSJ Goku's ITT Kamehameha: 125
MSSJ Goku's KHH against Broly: 100
Toei Punch: 250

Full Power Perfect Cell: 60-80
~Kamehameha: 300
Cell (against Goku): 25

MSSJ Gohan (Cell Games): 35
SSJ2 Gohan: 70
~Rage Boost: 140


Zenkai Cell: 120

I'm being way too generous to people on where I have Goku's KHH against Broly. It should be dead on with the one he used against Cell.

Movie 8:
RSSJ Broly: 40
LSSJ Broly: 125

MSSJ Gohan: 25, it still doesn't matter if he is his Cell Games self, he still wouldn't be the hero.

Now, Lets use Buu Saga Numbers here:

MSSJ Goku: 90
SSJ2 Goku: 180
SSJ3 Goku: 720

SSJ Vegeta: 75
SSJ2 Vegeta: 150
~Prince of Destruction: 180

MSSJ Gohan: 30
SSJ2 Gohan: 60
~Rage Boost: 120

Movie 10:

SSJ Broly: 125
LSSJ Broly: 390 (with the power shown)

Take the Zenkai given to Broly into account (AT's Zenkai to be exact)
SSJ Broly: 187.5
LSSJ Broly: 585

MSSJ Gohan: 35
~ Rage Boost induced SSJ2 Gohan: 140

MSSJ Goku: 90
SSJ2 Goku: 180

Honestly, I can continue further without calculating the Kamehameha amplifier in the end of Movie 10.

But what I can say, right now, is that it does take an SSJ2 to defeat SSJ Broly (M10) and LSSJ Broly (M8), and an SSJ3 to defeat LSSJ Broly (Movie 10).

Multipliers and Amps:
Toei Punch: 10x the original power of the user
Kamehameha: 5x
Rage Boost: varies.

RSSJ: 45x Base
SSJ: 50x base
SSJ2: 100x Base
LSSJ: 315x base (3.125x SSJ)
SSJ3: 400x base.

Zenkai: 1.5-2x
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There was a distinct differentiation between MSSJ Gohan and SSJ2 Gohan in hairstyle, demeanor, and if you look close enough, the eyes.

And why would Gohan neglect to use the strongest form he had when he was getting killed by Broly?

Look at Gohan M10, and look at MSSJ Gohan in the bottom right corner. Do they really look the same?

As for a hypothetical SSJ2 Goku, this has been shown many times before; do note that when M10 came out, burst SSJ2 Goku against Yakon and the statement he ascended beyond SSJ already came out:

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And the really funny part is how in this case, the biothunder was anime embellishment. Now, compare these pics to SSJ Goku:

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Not only a clear picture of SSJ Goku around the time in the series where Broly would fit in, but also two good pictures of his hair affected by wind. Now for the Kamehameha/wind theory for his hair:

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SSJ2 Goku appeared in M10, weather you liked it or not.

"The Southern Galaxy has fallen under Super Saiyan attack"

Broly should be SSJ or RSSJ during that time... King Kai states that by then Broly would arrive at the Northern Galaxy.

I've skipped to Paragas's arrival. Paragas says that they were looking for him.

Kai-Sama tells Goku something terrible happened and the Earth may be destroyed.

Paragas wants Vegeta to be king of New Planet Vegeta as usual, and rising to the highest empire. He says Vegeta is the only one able to defeat the Legendary Super Saiyan, who Paragas says is blowing ***** up like a gangsta.

Trunks failed to convince Vegeta to stay. Trunks called Bulma "Mom", if that stands for anything.

Goku eats a ***** ton. Kai says that Broly is finishing destroying the South Galaxy, and that his Galaxy is next.

"Goku, it's possivle that his power may even be greater than that of you guys."

"Wow! He's that strong!" Goku got excited, he tries to sense Broly's ki. "There it is, it's weak but it's definitely Saiyan Ki!"

He arrived. "He ain't here, but for him to leave this incredible Ki behind..." So RSSJ Broly might have stronger KI then Perfect Cell who fought Trunks and Vegeta, and stronger than Goku and Gohan as well.

"This is the Ki I felt, it could be like Kaio-Sama was saying his power is higher than even ours!"

So it's proven that RSSJ Broly > MSSJ Goku and Gohan.

We are back to backstory about Planet Vegeta and new Planet Vegeta.

Paragas said Vegeta can use Broli anyway he likes. Broli says he is a Saiyan himself.

He tells Broli to follow him to face the Legendary Super Saiyan. Gohan, Trunks and Krillin discuss the validity of there actually being an LSS, they save the servants. Gohan fights the overseers alongside Krillin and Trunks. Krillin lands a punch on Goku. Krillin is haxed.

Paragas calls Goku the child of Bardock. Goku is hungry and eats almost everything. Goku says the Ki he felt isn't from Paragas.

Trunks says there is no way Broli is the LSSJ, this means that Paragas's suppression is working just fine. Paragas kills one of his own henchmen. He convinces Vegeta that they will find the LSSJ soon enough. Goku tells Vegeta he knows about the LSSJ and Vegeta is convinced on killing him.

Broly and Goku have a standoff, Paragas is trying to suppress Broly's power, Roshi interferes. Broly calms down a bit. Paragas and the octopus guy create a new type of suppressing tool.

"Broli, what the hell is the matter with you, is it Kakorat? Does this mean that Broli's instincts as a Saiyan have been awakened by Kakarrot's power, and he is starting to overcome the limits of my control? If so, then all the trouble i've gone to will be..."

Flashback seen shows a teenage Broly destroying planets with no tool on restraint on him, but then Broli attacking Paragas as more of an adult which led to Paragas creating the restraint. Broly is against it, he turns RSSJ or something in the flashbacks but Paragas was able to manipulate it.

Now it shows Broli sitting in his chair, getting angry and another flashback of Broli's PL of 10,000 and Goku's of 2. "No matter what, I must control Broli, or he will destroy the whole universe!"

Broli goes RSSJ. "Kakarrot-o!"

Roshi is cuddling Oolong's foot as Goku's sleeping. Broly arrives and tries to punch Goku, he throws a bed at Krillin and Gohan and Goku is getting angry at Broly. "Oh Hell!" Paragas states.

Goku kicks Broly, making him bleed from the mouth, Goku dodges several Ki Beams. Broli is getting angrier and this time we see him having more of a blacker hair than his usual purple one, he says "Kakarrot!" and tries to strike him one more. Goku kicks him and Broly licks the wound, he lets go of over a dozen beams as Goku dodged each of them. Broly somewhat tanks Goku's punch.

Broly gets angrier and goes RSSJ or powers up. Goku states this is the Ki he felt from before. Paragas eases Broly with his device. Goku noticed Broli is the one who destroyed the South Galaxy, yes...Destroyed it. The comet approaches.

Paragas tries to convince Vegeta to wait until tomorrow and to stop trying to leave. Broli is getting angrier now, Goku is in the spaceship. He tells Vegeta Broli is the LSSJ.

"How could Broli, with power lower than my own be the LSSJ?" Paragas said. His suppressing ***** really does work, lol.

The servants noticed Broly is the one who destroyed their planet, pointing to base Broly, "I-it's him! He's the one who devastated our world!"

Paragas says his true plans. Broli is getting enraged, he walks towards Goku and goes RSSJ, "The LSSJ!" Vegeta says going SSJ and kicking Broly, that Broli tanked. "He didn't so much as blink over Vegeta's attack!" Goku was impressed. He hops back claiming that his name is Goku. Paragas laughs, he feels like he doesn't need to suppress Broli anymore. Vegeta uses whatever Ki Blast he wanted to use but missed. Broli didn't flinch.

Broli is powering up a mad-load now, the Earth is literally shaking, Paragas is telling Broli to stop. Broli ignores him, and proceeds to go LSSj, Vegeta reverts back to base. "The LSSJ!" Vegeta said.

"Kakarrot, you will be the first blood sacrifice!" Broli shouts. Gohan tries to protect him. He goes for the kill but Gohan was pushed by Broly. They fly away like faggots. "The LSSJ!" Vegeta says once more.

"We'll be killed! We'll be all killed! He is the LSSJ!", Paragas tells his backstory. Paragas says Broli has enough power to rule the Universe, not only Earth. Broli laughs at the Saiyans going MSSJ and Trunks transforming.

"There is no way to win! He's the LSSJ!" Vegeta says.

Broli strikes them all, easily chasing after them. "It looks as though you've finally decided to fight. Did you think you could defeat me with that level of power?" Broli says.

"Broli...You've realsly surprised me, you really are strong, huh? So shall we begin the second round?" Goku says.

Roshi does his drunken *****. Broly destroys Planet Shamo with one blast, as the servants cry. "He's the devil!" Gohan said. Trunks said if Broly continues, he will destroy the whole universe.

Broly threatens Gohan, Goku tells him to run but Gohan refuses, Gohan still left. Broly gets rid of Goku and Trunks and proceeds to chase Gohan, making him revert back to base. Broly gets both Trunks and Goku and drags them through buildings, Goku gets angry of how much Gohan got hurt. Broly repeats blasting Ki Blasts as Goku protects himself through all of them, but the last one got him. "My Ki is rising, it's overflowing!" Broly said, releasing several blasts.

Each Saiyan is in base. Piccolo defends Gohan. He gives everyone a Senzu beam. "The Ki I feel is so incredible it's like trembling...You guys sure got yourselves on awesome freak of an opponent, didn't you?"

The planet only has a few hours left.

Everyone is back to their MSSJ/USSJ forms, Broly tanks punches and kicks from Goku and Piccolo, Trunks and Gohan both draw an Masenko in which Broly tanked. Piccolo gets drop kicked as Gohan and Trunks get owned.

Vegeta says it's over. Piccolo gives Vegeta a motivational speech. Goku and Gohan both get owned once more. Broly is once more stated to be strong enough to end the Universe. "I may be tough but that guy is something else!" Goku said.

Goku launches his KHH, Broly tanks it. "What was that just now?" Broly asked, punching Goku. Vegeta is angry, he goes SSJ and proceeds to go for the kill, but gets shat on. "I am Vegeta!!"

Broly tanks Ki blasts and punches from Vegeta and Trunks, Trunks gets punched away and Vegeta is one-shot and reverts back to base. "Scum is scum" Broly said.

He powers up and kills Paragas. "Did you think it would take the explosion of a planet for me to die?"

MSSJ Goku walks towards Broly as the rest are half-dead. Goku also absorbs the Ki/power and Broly states it has to be this or it's not fun. Goku is launched towards several *****ing rocks by one blast from Broly. Broly at this point is torturing Goku "Give me Power!! Vegeta!"

Vegeta says no. Goku is still getting tortured half to death, "Give me pwoer...Power to defeat him..Give me Power!!" he shouts. Vegeta gives his power nonetheless, in which Goku finally stops, gaining aura and what not.

And then Broly gets one shot, as usual. Everyone was giving their power until Vegeta so Goku was still powering up as Broly was owning him.

But Broly gets oneshotted."

The intro shows the Great Saiyaman.
Maroon, 18 and Krillin.
AND Goku with a halo, this is definitely taking place around when Goku came back and left.

Now Movie 10
Trunks stated that Videl wanted to see Shenron

Videl really wants to see Shenron.

Goten considers Videl a sister "Sis...You Hit me!" when Videl slapped her when he wanted to
reach the food. So Goten knew Videl for a bit of time.

Trunks also considers Videl as "Sis"

Videl considers the dinosaur as too much for the kids to handle.

Now on to the Broly fight.

Videl levitates infront of the water, or you can consider it flying so she has been through Gohan's training.

Broly's smirk seems like he's just playing around as he hits Videl and w/e.

Broly is reminded of Goku when he sees Goten, Goten never knew Goku's Saiyan name when Broly mutters Kakkorat.

Gohan senses "An Incredible Ki", he states this as Broly was still an SSj.

Goten and Trunks revert to base just from Broly launching a Ki to the floor. He tanks both their punches.

The Four star Dragonball was found. Trunks stated to Goten "It wssn't supposed to be like this!" as they were getting their ***** kicked.

They plan to summon Shenron to take care of SSj Broly.

Gohan still flew. Videl says Broly is going to pay for what he's done.

Broly tanks several ki beams from SSj Trunks. Goten is pissing.

Trunks was easily defeated, wanting Goten to come. Goten found the ball again.

Trunks says Broly isn't playing by the rules, Trunks also wants to piss.

Trunks pissed on Broly.

Broly's blast missed them, but they still got hurt.

Gohan comes and saves the day, Base Gohan's blast deflected Broly's.

Broly suddenly shows Kakkarot-O a ***** ton.

Gohan stands, watching him. "Broli! Are you still alive?!"

Trunks and Goten celebrate Gohan's arrival. Gohan states that it is amazing that they are in "good shape" from fighting Broli.

They ask who Broli is. Gohan states why Broli was too much a hassle for them seven years ago. "So that's it. You were chasing after Dad. But Dad isn't around anymore. So in my dad's place, I will defeat you!" Gohan states while in base.

"Awesome!" Trunks states watching the fight.

"He's as bad a monster as ever! And here i'm supposed to have powered up considerably since back then!"

Broly just laughs and says Kakkarot.

He tanks Videl's kick, powers up or something, and goes on still head to head with Gohan. launching a Ki Blast while laughing, the blast supposed to have hit Gohan but went for the kids and Videl. Gohan rages and powers-up while in base to deflect it, he kind of did but the blast still hurt the kids.

Gohan is now pissed as Broly laughs his ***** off. He goes to SSj2, enraged at Broly.

Broly still laughed, that's of course until he sees SSJ2 Gohan. He goes LSSj.

Broly tanks the punch, hits Gohan back. The fight goes on as usual with Broly having the advantage tanking a punch and a kick. He's using his Back breaking maneuver with Gohan looking at the lava afterwards.

"That's the only way I can defeat Broli!" as he looks towards the Lava. This means Gohan knows his SSj2 is no match for Broly. Broly falls for it like so, but we all know he survives with his Ki Shield.

Krillin saves Base Gohan who's clothes are ruined.

Krillin has a lot of hair, but no moustache.

Broly comes back, smiling as his Ki Shield is around him.

Krillin apologizes to 18 for fighting Broly but gets one-shotted and it's over. Gohan survives Broly's Omega Eraser (not to be confused with Blaster). Broly is torturing Gohan over and over, the dragonballs are set free.

Broly laughs as he enjoys torturing Gohan. Bear hug time, Broly puts more pressure but Videl throws a crystal, Broly is distracted and deflects the crystal. Gohan is enraged, goes SSj and launches his KHH.

"iI am the daughter of Mr. Satan"

Broly destroys the crystal. Gohan is outraged "You Bastard!"

"That would be useless, I'll put you to rest now!" as Broly sees Gohan launching his KHH. The Omega Blaster is winning, Goten comes. They are still losing as Broly laughs his ***** off even more, there is no evening out.

Trunks wakes up. "Our power is not enough, we need more power!" Gohan says as Goten wishes for Goku.

"What are you doing giving up over just that!? You have to use up every last bit of power you hold!" Goten recognizes Goku's voice.

"There ain't anything else!" Goku comes by. Goten smiles. Goku goes SSj and launches his KHH. "Shen Long brought Father here!" Goten says.

Broly sees Goku, he stumbled. They are still losing.

"Gohan, you ain't giving enough power! Goten, don't be scared!" Goku knows Goten's name.

"is it fine with you guys if the Earth is smashed to pieces by Broli!? Can't you protect if it I ain't around!?" Broly laughs more launching his Ki Balls.

Trunks launches his blast, "Damn...To think there's a guy out there that our powers can't reach..." Trunks says. He throws the blast. "If im dreaming wake me up!" Broly laughs, trying to launch more but notices Trunk's blast. The more he launches the more it doesn't go through. "Now!" Goku says as he goes SSj2 with Gohan. Broly's ki shield competed with the blast for about 3 seconds but we are shown no damage from Broly until he hits the sun, meaning that he could have survived it and that's what everyone thinks.

The Dragonballs are scattered. "Dad!" Gohan says but Goku disappeared. "Dad you did come here didn't you?"

Yeah, he did.

Videl celebrates with Gohan, as she starts chasing after Gohan.

Derp, the kids are hungry.

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All Broly did was trash SSJ Gohan, which Dabra also could've done.
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All Broly did was trash SSJ Gohan, which Dabra also could've done.
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Alright, I don't need to post anymore. I will just, repeat, everything I have ever posted, ever. Incoming the huge post, and you guys *****ing asked for it.

""He's as bad a monster as ever!", Gohan stated as his quick fight with Broly ends with him turning SSJ2.

SSj Broly was stated to be stronger than MSSJ Goku (Buu Saga) in the Daizenshuu.

In Movie 8, LSSJ Broly was stated several times of having the most awesome and incredible Ki, even as an RSSJ he was stated to have it. (Refer to Movie 8 Weekend Research thread), Piccolo said LSSj Broly's Ki is like it's trembling awesomely, Goku stated that RSSJ Broly's Ki has incredible Ki. Keep in mind this Movie took place in the 10 day gap, says the Daiz, meaning RSSJ Broly has to surpass even suppressed Cell's power (the one against Vegeta). The fact that Goku was so shocked about RSSJ Broly's power leads me to believe RSSJ Broly is already ahead of MSSJ Goku, meaning RSSJ Broly in M8 should be around the Cell that fought Goku. Cell's Full Power is THAT above the one that fought Goku. We don't even know where Cell's Full Power is to being with, his Kamehameha used against Gohan should be around SSj2 Gohan because of the 5x amplifier.

Lets proceed to LSSj Broly in M8. Wherever you have LSSJ Broly's multiplier, it doesn't matter. He is on par with Full Power Perfect Cell, AT THE LEAST. Ignoring the tank of the Kamehameha is what people do, sure, then I will ignore Cell's Kamehameha against Gohan which lead Gohan to use his own to deflect it. See? I can play this game too.

MSSJ Goku: 25
MSSJ Goku's ITT Kamehameha: 125
MSSJ Goku's KHH against Broly: 100
Toei Punch: 250

Full Power Perfect Cell: 60-80
~Kamehameha: 300
Cell (against Goku): 25

MSSJ Gohan (Cell Games): 35
SSJ2 Gohan: 70
~Rage Boost: 140


Zenkai Cell: 120

I'm being way too generous to people on where I have Goku's KHH against Broly. It should be dead on with the one he used against Cell.

Movie 8:
RSSJ Broly: 40
LSSJ Broly: 125

MSSJ Gohan: 25, it still doesn't matter if he is his Cell Games self, he still wouldn't be the hero.

Now, Lets use Buu Saga Numbers here:

MSSJ Goku: 90
SSJ2 Goku: 180
SSJ3 Goku: 720

SSJ Vegeta: 75
SSJ2 Vegeta: 150
~Prince of Destruction: 180

MSSJ Gohan: 30
SSJ2 Gohan: 60
~Rage Boost: 120

Movie 10:

SSJ Broly: 125
LSSJ Broly: 390 (with the power shown)

Take the Zenkai given to Broly into account (AT's Zenkai to be exact)
SSJ Broly: 187.5
LSSJ Broly: 585

MSSJ Gohan: 35
~ Rage Boost induced SSJ2 Gohan: 140

MSSJ Goku: 90
SSJ2 Goku: 180

Honestly, I can continue further without calculating the Kamehameha amplifier in the end of Movie 10.

But what I can say, right now, is that it does take an SSJ2 to defeat SSJ Broly (M10) and LSSJ Broly (M8), and an SSJ3 to defeat LSSJ Broly (Movie 10).

Multipliers and Amps:
Toei Punch: 10x the original power of the user
Kamehameha: 5x
Rage Boost: varies.

RSSJ: 45x Base
SSJ: 50x base
SSJ2: 100x Base
LSSJ: 315x base (3.125x SSJ)
SSJ3: 400x base.

Zenkai: 1.5-2x
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There was a distinct differentiation between MSSJ Gohan and SSJ2 Gohan in hairstyle, demeanor, and if you look close enough, the eyes.

And why would Gohan neglect to use the strongest form he had when he was getting killed by Broly?

Look at Gohan M10, and look at MSSJ Gohan in the bottom right corner. Do they really look the same?

As for a hypothetical SSJ2 Goku, this has been shown many times before; do note that when M10 came out, burst SSJ2 Goku against Yakon and the statement he ascended beyond SSJ already came out:

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And the really funny part is how in this case, the biothunder was anime embellishment. Now, compare these pics to SSJ Goku:

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Not only a clear picture of SSJ Goku around the time in the series where Broly would fit in, but also two good pictures of his hair affected by wind. Now for the Kamehameha/wind theory for his hair:

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SSJ2 Goku appeared in M10, weather you liked it or not.

"The Southern Galaxy has fallen under Super Saiyan attack"

Broly should be SSJ or RSSJ during that time... King Kai states that by then Broly would arrive at the Northern Galaxy.

I've skipped to Paragas's arrival. Paragas says that they were looking for him.

Kai-Sama tells Goku something terrible happened and the Earth may be destroyed.

Paragas wants Vegeta to be king of New Planet Vegeta as usual, and rising to the highest empire. He says Vegeta is the only one able to defeat the Legendary Super Saiyan, who Paragas says is blowing ***** up like a gangsta.

Trunks failed to convince Vegeta to stay. Trunks called Bulma "Mom", if that stands for anything.

Goku eats a ***** ton. Kai says that Broly is finishing destroying the South Galaxy, and that his Galaxy is next.

"Goku, it's possivle that his power may even be greater than that of you guys."

"Wow! He's that strong!" Goku got excited, he tries to sense Broly's ki. "There it is, it's weak but it's definitely Saiyan Ki!"

He arrived. "He ain't here, but for him to leave this incredible Ki behind..." So RSSJ Broly might have stronger KI then Perfect Cell who fought Trunks and Vegeta, and stronger than Goku and Gohan as well.

"This is the Ki I felt, it could be like Kaio-Sama was saying his power is higher than even ours!"

So it's proven that RSSJ Broly > MSSJ Goku and Gohan.

We are back to backstory about Planet Vegeta and new Planet Vegeta.

Paragas said Vegeta can use Broli anyway he likes. Broli says he is a Saiyan himself.

He tells Broli to follow him to face the Legendary Super Saiyan. Gohan, Trunks and Krillin discuss the validity of there actually being an LSS, they save the servants. Gohan fights the overseers alongside Krillin and Trunks. Krillin lands a punch on Goku. Krillin is haxed.

Paragas calls Goku the child of Bardock. Goku is hungry and eats almost everything. Goku says the Ki he felt isn't from Paragas.

Trunks says there is no way Broli is the LSSJ, this means that Paragas's suppression is working just fine. Paragas kills one of his own henchmen. He convinces Vegeta that they will find the LSSJ soon enough. Goku tells Vegeta he knows about the LSSJ and Vegeta is convinced on killing him.

Broly and Goku have a standoff, Paragas is trying to suppress Broly's power, Roshi interferes. Broly calms down a bit. Paragas and the octopus guy create a new type of suppressing tool.

"Broli, what the hell is the matter with you, is it Kakorat? Does this mean that Broli's instincts as a Saiyan have been awakened by Kakarrot's power, and he is starting to overcome the limits of my control? If so, then all the trouble i've gone to will be..."

Flashback seen shows a teenage Broly destroying planets with no tool on restraint on him, but then Broli attacking Paragas as more of an adult which led to Paragas creating the restraint. Broly is against it, he turns RSSJ or something in the flashbacks but Paragas was able to manipulate it.

Now it shows Broli sitting in his chair, getting angry and another flashback of Broli's PL of 10,000 and Goku's of 2. "No matter what, I must control Broli, or he will destroy the whole universe!"

Broli goes RSSJ. "Kakarrot-o!"

Roshi is cuddling Oolong's foot as Goku's sleeping. Broly arrives and tries to punch Goku, he throws a bed at Krillin and Gohan and Goku is getting angry at Broly. "Oh Hell!" Paragas states.

Goku kicks Broly, making him bleed from the mouth, Goku dodges several Ki Beams. Broli is getting angrier and this time we see him having more of a blacker hair than his usual purple one, he says "Kakarrot!" and tries to strike him one more. Goku kicks him and Broly licks the wound, he lets go of over a dozen beams as Goku dodged each of them. Broly somewhat tanks Goku's punch.

Broly gets angrier and goes RSSJ or powers up. Goku states this is the Ki he felt from before. Paragas eases Broly with his device. Goku noticed Broli is the one who destroyed the South Galaxy, yes...Destroyed it. The comet approaches.

Paragas tries to convince Vegeta to wait until tomorrow and to stop trying to leave. Broli is getting angrier now, Goku is in the spaceship. He tells Vegeta Broli is the LSSJ.

"How could Broli, with power lower than my own be the LSSJ?" Paragas said. His suppressing ***** really does work, lol.

The servants noticed Broly is the one who destroyed their planet, pointing to base Broly, "I-it's him! He's the one who devastated our world!"

Paragas says his true plans. Broli is getting enraged, he walks towards Goku and goes RSSJ, "The LSSJ!" Vegeta says going SSJ and kicking Broly, that Broli tanked. "He didn't so much as blink over Vegeta's attack!" Goku was impressed. He hops back claiming that his name is Goku. Paragas laughs, he feels like he doesn't need to suppress Broli anymore. Vegeta uses whatever Ki Blast he wanted to use but missed. Broli didn't flinch.

Broli is powering up a mad-load now, the Earth is literally shaking, Paragas is telling Broli to stop. Broli ignores him, and proceeds to go LSSj, Vegeta reverts back to base. "The LSSJ!" Vegeta said.

"Kakarrot, you will be the first blood sacrifice!" Broli shouts. Gohan tries to protect him. He goes for the kill but Gohan was pushed by Broly. They fly away like faggots. "The LSSJ!" Vegeta says once more.

"We'll be killed! We'll be all killed! He is the LSSJ!", Paragas tells his backstory. Paragas says Broli has enough power to rule the Universe, not only Earth. Broli laughs at the Saiyans going MSSJ and Trunks transforming.

"There is no way to win! He's the LSSJ!" Vegeta says.

Broli strikes them all, easily chasing after them. "It looks as though you've finally decided to fight. Did you think you could defeat me with that level of power?" Broli says.

"Broli...You've realsly surprised me, you really are strong, huh? So shall we begin the second round?" Goku says.

Roshi does his drunken *****. Broly destroys Planet Shamo with one blast, as the servants cry. "He's the devil!" Gohan said. Trunks said if Broly continues, he will destroy the whole universe.

Broly threatens Gohan, Goku tells him to run but Gohan refuses, Gohan still left. Broly gets rid of Goku and Trunks and proceeds to chase Gohan, making him revert back to base. Broly gets both Trunks and Goku and drags them through buildings, Goku gets angry of how much Gohan got hurt. Broly repeats blasting Ki Blasts as Goku protects himself through all of them, but the last one got him. "My Ki is rising, it's overflowing!" Broly said, releasing several blasts.

Each Saiyan is in base. Piccolo defends Gohan. He gives everyone a Senzu beam. "The Ki I feel is so incredible it's like trembling...You guys sure got yourselves on awesome freak of an opponent, didn't you?"

The planet only has a few hours left.

Everyone is back to their MSSJ/USSJ forms, Broly tanks punches and kicks from Goku and Piccolo, Trunks and Gohan both draw an Masenko in which Broly tanked. Piccolo gets drop kicked as Gohan and Trunks get owned.

Vegeta says it's over. Piccolo gives Vegeta a motivational speech. Goku and Gohan both get owned once more. Broly is once more stated to be strong enough to end the Universe. "I may be tough but that guy is something else!" Goku said.

Goku launches his KHH, Broly tanks it. "What was that just now?" Broly asked, punching Goku. Vegeta is angry, he goes SSJ and proceeds to go for the kill, but gets shat on. "I am Vegeta!!"

Broly tanks Ki blasts and punches from Vegeta and Trunks, Trunks gets punched away and Vegeta is one-shot and reverts back to base. "Scum is scum" Broly said.

He powers up and kills Paragas. "Did you think it would take the explosion of a planet for me to die?"

MSSJ Goku walks towards Broly as the rest are half-dead. Goku also absorbs the Ki/power and Broly states it has to be this or it's not fun. Goku is launched towards several *****ing rocks by one blast from Broly. Broly at this point is torturing Goku "Give me Power!! Vegeta!"

Vegeta says no. Goku is still getting tortured half to death, "Give me pwoer...Power to defeat him..Give me Power!!" he shouts. Vegeta gives his power nonetheless, in which Goku finally stops, gaining aura and what not.

And then Broly gets one shot, as usual. Everyone was giving their power until Vegeta so Goku was still powering up as Broly was owning him.

But Broly gets oneshotted."

The intro shows the Great Saiyaman.
Maroon, 18 and Krillin.
AND Goku with a halo, this is definitely taking place around when Goku came back and left.

Now Movie 10
Trunks stated that Videl wanted to see Shenron

Videl really wants to see Shenron.

Goten considers Videl a sister "Sis...You Hit me!" when Videl slapped her when he wanted to
reach the food. So Goten knew Videl for a bit of time.

Trunks also considers Videl as "Sis"

Videl considers the dinosaur as too much for the kids to handle.

Now on to the Broly fight.

Videl levitates infront of the water, or you can consider it flying so she has been through Gohan's training.

Broly's smirk seems like he's just playing around as he hits Videl and w/e.

Broly is reminded of Goku when he sees Goten, Goten never knew Goku's Saiyan name when Broly mutters Kakkorat.

Gohan senses "An Incredible Ki", he states this as Broly was still an SSj.

Goten and Trunks revert to base just from Broly launching a Ki to the floor. He tanks both their punches.

The Four star Dragonball was found. Trunks stated to Goten "It wssn't supposed to be like this!" as they were getting their ***** kicked.

They plan to summon Shenron to take care of SSj Broly.

Gohan still flew. Videl says Broly is going to pay for what he's done.

Broly tanks several ki beams from SSj Trunks. Goten is pissing.

Trunks was easily defeated, wanting Goten to come. Goten found the ball again.

Trunks says Broly isn't playing by the rules, Trunks also wants to piss.

Trunks pissed on Broly.

Broly's blast missed them, but they still got hurt.

Gohan comes and saves the day, Base Gohan's blast deflected Broly's.

Broly suddenly shows Kakkarot-O a ***** ton.

Gohan stands, watching him. "Broli! Are you still alive?!"

Trunks and Goten celebrate Gohan's arrival. Gohan states that it is amazing that they are in "good shape" from fighting Broli.

They ask who Broli is. Gohan states why Broli was too much a hassle for them seven years ago. "So that's it. You were chasing after Dad. But Dad isn't around anymore. So in my dad's place, I will defeat you!" Gohan states while in base.

"Awesome!" Trunks states watching the fight.

"He's as bad a monster as ever! And here i'm supposed to have powered up considerably since back then!"

Broly just laughs and says Kakkarot.

He tanks Videl's kick, powers up or something, and goes on still head to head with Gohan. launching a Ki Blast while laughing, the blast supposed to have hit Gohan but went for the kids and Videl. Gohan rages and powers-up while in base to deflect it, he kind of did but the blast still hurt the kids.

Gohan is now pissed as Broly laughs his ***** off. He goes to SSj2, enraged at Broly.

Broly still laughed, that's of course until he sees SSJ2 Gohan. He goes LSSj.

Broly tanks the punch, hits Gohan back. The fight goes on as usual with Broly having the advantage tanking a punch and a kick. He's using his Back breaking maneuver with Gohan looking at the lava afterwards.

"That's the only way I can defeat Broli!" as he looks towards the Lava. This means Gohan knows his SSj2 is no match for Broly. Broly falls for it like so, but we all know he survives with his Ki Shield.

Krillin saves Base Gohan who's clothes are ruined.

Krillin has a lot of hair, but no moustache.

Broly comes back, smiling as his Ki Shield is around him.

Krillin apologizes to 18 for fighting Broly but gets one-shotted and it's over. Gohan survives Broly's Omega Eraser (not to be confused with Blaster). Broly is torturing Gohan over and over, the dragonballs are set free.

Broly laughs as he enjoys torturing Gohan. Bear hug time, Broly puts more pressure but Videl throws a crystal, Broly is distracted and deflects the crystal. Gohan is enraged, goes SSj and launches his KHH.

"iI am the daughter of Mr. Satan"

Broly destroys the crystal. Gohan is outraged "You Bastard!"

"That would be useless, I'll put you to rest now!" as Broly sees Gohan launching his KHH. The Omega Blaster is winning, Goten comes. They are still losing as Broly laughs his ***** off even more, there is no evening out.

Trunks wakes up. "Our power is not enough, we need more power!" Gohan says as Goten wishes for Goku.

"What are you doing giving up over just that!? You have to use up every last bit of power you hold!" Goten recognizes Goku's voice.

"There ain't anything else!" Goku comes by. Goten smiles. Goku goes SSj and launches his KHH. "Shen Long brought Father here!" Goten says.

Broly sees Goku, he stumbled. They are still losing.

"Gohan, you ain't giving enough power! Goten, don't be scared!" Goku knows Goten's name.

"is it fine with you guys if the Earth is smashed to pieces by Broli!? Can't you protect if it I ain't around!?" Broly laughs more launching his Ki Balls.

Trunks launches his blast, "Damn...To think there's a guy out there that our powers can't reach..." Trunks says. He throws the blast. "If im dreaming wake me up!" Broly laughs, trying to launch more but notices Trunk's blast. The more he launches the more it doesn't go through. "Now!" Goku says as he goes SSj2 with Gohan. Broly's ki shield competed with the blast for about 3 seconds but we are shown no damage from Broly until he hits the sun, meaning that he could have survived it and that's what everyone thinks.

The Dragonballs are scattered. "Dad!" Gohan says but Goku disappeared. "Dad you did come here didn't you?"

Yeah, he did.

Videl celebrates with Gohan, as she starts chasing after Gohan.

Derp, the kids are hungry.
Edited by Sircum, Sep 16 2012, 11:54 PM.
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