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"Daizenshuu is fake"
Topic Started: Sep 15 2012, 12:46 PM (8,000 Views)
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I will admit that not everything in the Daiz is reliable, as later copies have info differing from that of previous ones (sometimes). Everything should be taken with a grain of salt, but it's still the second most reliable source of info after the manga. Unless the manga contradicts it, then it's good.

And the non-canon movies have no manga counterparts....naturally, the guidebooks are perfect for movies....
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Sep 15 2012, 04:13 PM
Youtube? Where paki lies? Nah, you guys have too much followers there.

Seems like you given up.
I see the worthless piece of ***** known as sircum keeps trolling after I proved him wron countless times. What followers? You have your own followers here. You had the chance to face me in a PM on YouTube just you and me one on one but you ran away because you know how I proved you wrong. I proved you wrong and debunked all the crap you keep saying so you are kinda mad now. You don't even know whata Movie means and the diffrence between a Movie to Anime and Manga. Everyone has debunked the crap you say. I want you to debate me on a PM on Youtube just you and me. Don't be a coward.


In Gohans Bio it states that Gohan didnt use SSJ 2 after Volume 37 (I believe its that one) which is the end of the bodokai, and hasnt yeat shown the fight with dabura.

Dabura's Bio states Gohan was SSJ 2.

Another is that it states Recoome killed Gohan... But thats kinda obviously NOT TRUE.
And that recoome's attack was meant to take out all three of them (Veggie , gohan , and Krillin) but was only aimed at Vegeta.

There are more, and Ill add them shortly, but I would like to confirm my research. Stay tuned.

EDIT: Here we go This is all I feel Like searching through for now. But there are a handful of more.

*Daizenshuu 1 has a pic of 3rd form Freeza, but states it as 2nd Form.

*Daizenshuu 2 States SSJ Vegeta appeared in Volume 32 when it was actually 29
" States Kaioshin appeared in Volume 39 when it was 37.
" Misses some battles, that may not be considered battles, but includes things like Goku V Fish... Soooo
*Daizenshuu 4 states Buu used Goku's Instant Transmission, but it was actually Shin Konido which is Kaioshin's type of teleportation.

*Daizenshuu 7 Tenshinhan's profile lists one of his battles was against no.19, while it actually was against no.17
" 17 uses Kienzan
" Goten was born while Goku fought cell
" Goku's first KHH was used on Tenshinhan, but it was actually Jackie Chun he used it on
" Bra born in 780 in one part of the book, and then later stated to be born in 778.
" The timeline has other errors. Like Yamcha meet, and defeat, and so on.
" Its states Goku stayed dead longer than a year for the saiyans, but he was only dead for a little over 11.
Also dont forget that over the official PL lists from V-Jump, SEG and so on, there are some literaly factual errors, like Piccolo Diamao's 260, despite tenshinhan being 250 at the start of Z and the fact that Weighted Goku from Piccolo Jr being > Piccolo D and Tein being on par with that goku

The list goes on.
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Sep 15 2012, 04:34 PM
Sircum
Sep 15 2012, 04:13 PM
Youtube? Where paki lies? Nah, you guys have too much followers there.

Seems like you given up.
I see the worthless piece of ***** known as sircum keeps trolling after I proved him wron countless times. What followers? You have your own followers here. You had the chance to face me in a PM on YouTube just you and me one on one but you ran away because you know how I proved you wrong. I proved you wrong and debunked all the crap you keep saying so you are kinda mad now. You don't even know whata Movie means and the diffrence between a Movie to Anime and Manga. Everyone has debunked the crap you say. I want you to debate me on a PM on Youtube just you and me. Don't be a coward.
Wron?

Me trolling?

Please. Toei makes Movies and Anime, derp, so in their universe everything is a bit more different. And the fact that AT was involved in Movie 8 and 10 is more than enough to disapprove your worthless LSSJ Broly = USSJ Trunks argument.

Edit:
Daizenshuu 6 is the only Daizenshuu that matters in the Movie universe, why you bring up other Daiz numbers, idk.
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Sep 15 2012, 04:37 PM
Thomas Yosh
Sep 15 2012, 04:34 PM
Sircum
Sep 15 2012, 04:13 PM
Youtube? Where paki lies? Nah, you guys have too much followers there.

Seems like you given up.
I see the worthless piece of ***** known as sircum keeps trolling after I proved him wron countless times. What followers? You have your own followers here. You had the chance to face me in a PM on YouTube just you and me one on one but you ran away because you know how I proved you wrong. I proved you wrong and debunked all the crap you keep saying so you are kinda mad now. You don't even know whata Movie means and the diffrence between a Movie to Anime and Manga. Everyone has debunked the crap you say. I want you to debate me on a PM on Youtube just you and me. Don't be a coward.
Wron?

Me trolling?

Please. Toei makes Movies and Anime, derp, so in their universe everything is a bit more different. And the fact that AT was involved in Movie 8 and 10 is more than enough to disapprove your worthless LSSJ Broly = USSJ Trunks argument.
This is why I hate to argue with fools like you. I never said Broly=USSJ Trunks in terms of powers. You are making *****s up and can't read correctly. AT drawing Broly means nothing. He also drew Lord Slug and come on. If you are so right so come and talk to me in a PM and don't talk bad about me behind my bacl like an hypocrite. You are denying the facts which are shown to you is nore than enough proof you are biased. :=]:
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Sep 15 2012, 04:40 PM
Sircum
Sep 15 2012, 04:37 PM
Thomas Yosh
Sep 15 2012, 04:34 PM
Sircum
Sep 15 2012, 04:13 PM
Youtube? Where paki lies? Nah, you guys have too much followers there.

Seems like you given up.
I see the worthless piece of ***** known as sircum keeps trolling after I proved him wron countless times. What followers? You have your own followers here. You had the chance to face me in a PM on YouTube just you and me one on one but you ran away because you know how I proved you wrong. I proved you wrong and debunked all the crap you keep saying so you are kinda mad now. You don't even know whata Movie means and the diffrence between a Movie to Anime and Manga. Everyone has debunked the crap you say. I want you to debate me on a PM on Youtube just you and me. Don't be a coward.
Wron?

Me trolling?

Please. Toei makes Movies and Anime, derp, so in their universe everything is a bit more different. And the fact that AT was involved in Movie 8 and 10 is more than enough to disapprove your worthless LSSJ Broly = USSJ Trunks argument.
This is why I hate to argue with fools like you. I never said Broly=USSJ Trunks in terms of powers. You are making *****s up and can't read correctly. AT drawing Broly means nothing. He also drew Lord Slug and come on. If you are so right so come and talk to me in a PM and don't talk bad about me behind my bacl like an hypocrite. You are denying the facts which are shown to you is nore than enough proof you are biased. :=]:
I never said in terms of power either.

You said LSSj Broly is based off USSj Trunks.

More than enough to ignore you and your logic.
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Sep 15 2012, 04:13 PM
Youtube? Where paki lies? Nah, you guys have too much followers there.

Seems like you given up.
paki?? you still dont know how to spell pakl, do you?

oh, so you ran and came here bcoz you have more followers here huh? LOLZ
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Well this is surprisingly pleasant.

2 on one, like I wanted.

Let's do this, bring it on.
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daizenshuu is fake, and will always remain fake.
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Sircum
Sep 15 2012, 04:40 PM
Thomas Yosh
Sep 15 2012, 04:40 PM
Sircum
Sep 15 2012, 04:37 PM
Thomas Yosh
Sep 15 2012, 04:34 PM
Sircum
Sep 15 2012, 04:13 PM
Youtube? Where paki lies? Nah, you guys have too much followers there.

Seems like you given up.
I see the worthless piece of ***** known as sircum keeps trolling after I proved him wron countless times. What followers? You have your own followers here. You had the chance to face me in a PM on YouTube just you and me one on one but you ran away because you know how I proved you wrong. I proved you wrong and debunked all the crap you keep saying so you are kinda mad now. You don't even know whata Movie means and the diffrence between a Movie to Anime and Manga. Everyone has debunked the crap you say. I want you to debate me on a PM on Youtube just you and me. Don't be a coward.
Wron?

Me trolling?

Please. Toei makes Movies and Anime, derp, so in their universe everything is a bit more different. And the fact that AT was involved in Movie 8 and 10 is more than enough to disapprove your worthless LSSJ Broly = USSJ Trunks argument.
This is why I hate to argue with fools like you. I never said Broly=USSJ Trunks in terms of powers. You are making *****s up and can't read correctly. AT drawing Broly means nothing. He also drew Lord Slug and come on. If you are so right so come and talk to me in a PM and don't talk bad about me behind my bacl like an hypocrite. You are denying the facts which are shown to you is nore than enough proof you are biased. :=]:
I never said in terms of power either.

You said LSSj Broly is based off USSj Trunks.

More than enough to ignore you and your logic.
I never said LSSJ Broly is based on USSJ. Once again, you are making up crap. Anyway, I see you want to ignore me after I challenged you to come and talk about it in a PM. Why can't you come? Don't be a coward, dude. It's alright if you say the Z Fighters Levels can be shown in a Movie when they were not even shown in the Anime(Toei's main and first work) even though it's retarded. :w00t:
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Sep 15 2012, 04:42 PM
daizenshuu is fake, and will always remain fake.
Well you are *****ing smart.

Let's go by the movies then.

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Oh that's what it is lol, I am posting every quote I can find in relation to his strength.
"The Southern Galaxy has fallen under Super Saiyan attack"

Broly should be SSJ or RSSJ during that time... King Kai states that by then Broly would arrive at the Northern Galaxy.

I've skipped to Paragas's arrival. Paragas says that they were looking for him.

Kai-Sama tells Goku something terrible happened and the Earth may be destroyed.

Paragas wants Vegeta to be king of New Planet Vegeta as usual, and rising to the highest empire. He says Vegeta is the only one able to defeat the Legendary Super Saiyan, who Paragas says is blowing ***** up like a gangsta.

Trunks failed to convince Vegeta to stay. Trunks called Bulma "Mom", if that stands for anything.

Goku eats a ***** ton. Kai says that Broly is finishing destroying the South Galaxy, and that his Galaxy is next.

"Goku, it's possivle that his power may even be greater than that of you guys."

"Wow! He's that strong!" Goku got excited, he tries to sense Broly's ki. "There it is, it's weak but it's definitely Saiyan Ki!"

He arrived. "He ain't here, but for him to leave this incredible Ki behind..." So RSSJ Broly might have stronger KI then Perfect Cell who fought Trunks and Vegeta, and stronger than Goku and Gohan as well.

"This is the Ki I felt, it could be like Kaio-Sama was saying his power is higher than even ours!"

So it's proven that RSSJ Broly > MSSJ Goku and Gohan.

We are back to backstory about Planet Vegeta and new Planet Vegeta.

Paragas said Vegeta can use Broli anyway he likes. Broli says he is a Saiyan himself.

He tells Broli to follow him to face the Legendary Super Saiyan. Gohan, Trunks and Krillin discuss the validity of there actually being an LSS, they save the servants. Gohan fights the overseers alongside Krillin and Trunks. Krillin lands a punch on Goku. Krillin is haxed.

Paragas calls Goku the child of Bardock. Goku is hungry and eats almost everything. Goku says the Ki he felt isn't from Paragas.

Trunks says there is no way Broli is the LSSJ, this means that Paragas's suppression is working just fine. Paragas kills one of his own henchmen. He convinces Vegeta that they will find the LSSJ soon enough. Goku tells Vegeta he knows about the LSSJ and Vegeta is convinced on killing him.

Broly and Goku have a standoff, Paragas is trying to suppress Broly's power, Roshi interferes. Broly calms down a bit. Paragas and the octopus guy create a new type of suppressing tool.

"Broli, what the hell is the matter with you, is it Kakorat? Does this mean that Broli's instincts as a Saiyan have been awakened by Kakarrot's power, and he is starting to overcome the limits of my control? If so, then all the trouble i've gone to will be..."

Flashback seen shows a teenage Broly destroying planets with no tool on restraint on him, but then Broli attacking Paragas as more of an adult which led to Paragas creating the restraint. Broly is against it, he turns RSSJ or something in the flashbacks but Paragas was able to manipulate it.

Now it shows Broli sitting in his chair, getting angry and another flashback of Broli's PL of 10,000 and Goku's of 2. "No matter what, I must control Broli, or he will destroy the whole universe!"

Broli goes RSSJ. "Kakarrot-o!"

Roshi is cuddling Oolong's foot as Goku's sleeping. Broly arrives and tries to punch Goku, he throws a bed at Krillin and Gohan and Goku is getting angry at Broly. "Oh Hell!" Paragas states.

Goku kicks Broly, making him bleed from the mouth, Goku dodges several Ki Beams. Broli is getting angrier and this time we see him having more of a blacker hair than his usual purple one, he says "Kakarrot!" and tries to strike him one more. Goku kicks him and Broly licks the wound, he lets go of over a dozen beams as Goku dodged each of them. Broly somewhat tanks Goku's punch.

Broly gets angrier and goes RSSJ or powers up. Goku states this is the Ki he felt from before. Paragas eases Broly with his device. Goku noticed Broli is the one who destroyed the South Galaxy, yes...Destroyed it. The comet approaches.

Paragas tries to convince Vegeta to wait until tomorrow and to stop trying to leave. Broli is getting angrier now, Goku is in the spaceship. He tells Vegeta Broli is the LSSJ.

"How could Broli, with power lower than my own be the LSSJ?" Paragas said. His suppressing ***** really does work, lol.

The servants noticed Broly is the one who destroyed their planet, pointing to base Broly, "I-it's him! He's the one who devastated our world!"

Paragas says his true plans. Broli is getting enraged, he walks towards Goku and goes RSSJ, "The LSSJ!" Vegeta says going SSJ and kicking Broly, that Broli tanked. "He didn't so much as blink over Vegeta's attack!" Goku was impressed. He hops back claiming that his name is Goku. Paragas laughs, he feels like he doesn't need to suppress Broli anymore. Vegeta uses whatever Ki Blast he wanted to use but missed. Broli didn't flinch.

Broli is powering up a mad-load now, the Earth is literally shaking, Paragas is telling Broli to stop. Broli ignores him, and proceeds to go LSSj, Vegeta reverts back to base. "The LSSJ!" Vegeta said.

"Kakarrot, you will be the first blood sacrifice!" Broli shouts. Gohan tries to protect him. He goes for the kill but Gohan was pushed by Broly. They fly away like faggots. "The LSSJ!" Vegeta says once more.

"We'll be killed! We'll be all killed! He is the LSSJ!", Paragas tells his backstory. Paragas says Broli has enough power to rule the Universe, not only Earth. Broli laughs at the Saiyans going MSSJ and Trunks transforming.

"There is no way to win! He's the LSSJ!" Vegeta says.

Broli strikes them all, easily chasing after them. "It looks as though you've finally decided to fight. Did you think you could defeat me with that level of power?" Broli says.

"Broli...You've realsly surprised me, you really are strong, huh? So shall we begin the second round?" Goku says.

Roshi does his drunken *****. Broly destroys Planet Shamo with one blast, as the servants cry. "He's the devil!" Gohan said. Trunks said if Broly continues, he will destroy the whole universe.

Broly threatens Gohan, Goku tells him to run but Gohan refuses, Gohan still left. Broly gets rid of Goku and Trunks and proceeds to chase Gohan, making him revert back to base. Broly gets both Trunks and Goku and drags them through buildings, Goku gets angry of how much Gohan got hurt. Broly repeats blasting Ki Blasts as Goku protects himself through all of them, but the last one got him. "My Ki is rising, it's overflowing!" Broly said, releasing several blasts.

Each Saiyan is in base. Piccolo defends Gohan. He gives everyone a Senzu beam. "The Ki I feel is so incredible it's like trembling...You guys sure got yourselves on awesome freak of an opponent, didn't you?"

The planet only has a few hours left.

Everyone is back to their MSSJ/USSJ forms, Broly tanks punches and kicks from Goku and Piccolo, Trunks and Gohan both draw an Masenko in which Broly tanked. Piccolo gets drop kicked as Gohan and Trunks get owned.

Vegeta says it's over. Piccolo gives Vegeta a motivational speech. Goku and Gohan both get owned once more. Broly is once more stated to be strong enough to end the Universe. "I may be tough but that guy is something else!" Goku said.

Goku launches his KHH, Broly tanks it. "What was that just now?" Broly asked, punching Goku. Vegeta is angry, he goes SSJ and proceeds to go for the kill, but gets shat on. "I am Vegeta!!"

Broly tanks Ki blasts and punches from Vegeta and Trunks, Trunks gets punched away and Vegeta is one-shot and reverts back to base. "Scum is scum" Broly said.

He powers up and kills Paragas. "Did you think it would take the explosion of a planet for me to die?"

MSSJ Goku walks towards Broly as the rest are half-dead. Goku also absorbs the Ki/power and Broly states it has to be this or it's not fun. Goku is launched towards several *****ing rocks by one blast from Broly. Broly at this point is torturing Goku "Give me Power!! Vegeta!"

Vegeta says no. Goku is still getting tortured half to death, "Give me pwoer...Power to defeat him..Give me Power!!" he shouts. Vegeta gives his power nonetheless, in which Goku finally stops, gaining aura and what not.

And then Broly gets one shot, as usual. Everyone was giving their power until Vegeta so Goku was still powering up as Broly was owning him.

But Broly gets oneshotted.


Movie 10:

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The intro shows the Great Saiyaman.
Maroon, 18 and Krillin.
AND Goku with a halo, this is definitely taking place around when Goku came back and left.

Now Movie 10
Trunks stated that Videl wanted to see Shenron

Videl really wants to see Shenron.

Goten considers Videl a sister "Sis...You Hit me!" when Videl slapped her when he wanted to
reach the food. So Goten knew Videl for a bit of time.

Trunks also considers Videl as "Sis"

Videl considers the dinosaur as too much for the kids to handle.

Now on to the Broly fight.

Videl levitates infront of the water, or you can consider it flying so she has been through Gohan's training.

Broly's smirk seems like he's just playing around as he hits Videl and w/e.

Broly is reminded of Goku when he sees Goten, Goten never knew Goku's Saiyan name when Broly mutters Kakkorat.

Gohan senses "An Incredible Ki", he states this as Broly was still an SSj.

Goten and Trunks revert to base just from Broly launching a Ki to the floor. He tanks both their punches.

The Four star Dragonball was found. Trunks stated to Goten "It wssn't supposed to be like this!" as they were getting their ***** kicked.

They plan to summon Shenron to take care of SSj Broly.

Gohan still flew. Videl says Broly is going to pay for what he's done.

Broly tanks several ki beams from SSj Trunks. Goten is pissing.

Trunks was easily defeated, wanting Goten to come. Goten found the ball again.

Trunks says Broly isn't playing by the rules, Trunks also wants to piss.

Trunks pissed on Broly.

Broly's blast missed them, but they still got hurt.

Gohan comes and saves the day, Base Gohan's blast deflected Broly's.

Broly suddenly shows Kakkarot-O a ***** ton.

Gohan stands, watching him. "Broli! Are you still alive?!"

Trunks and Goten celebrate Gohan's arrival. Gohan states that it is amazing that they are in "good shape" from fighting Broli.

They ask who Broli is. Gohan states why Broli was too much a hassle for them seven years ago. "So that's it. You were chasing after Dad. But Dad isn't around anymore. So in my dad's place, I will defeat you!" Gohan states while in base.

"Awesome!" Trunks states watching the fight.

"He's as bad a monster as ever! And here i'm supposed to have powered up considerably since back then!"

Broly just laughs and says Kakkarot.

He tanks Videl's kick, powers up or something, and goes on still head to head with Gohan. launching a Ki Blast while laughing, the blast supposed to have hit Gohan but went for the kids and Videl. Gohan rages and powers-up while in base to deflect it, he kind of did but the blast still hurt the kids.

Gohan is now pissed as Broly laughs his ***** off. He goes to SSj2, enraged at Broly.

Broly still laughed, that's of course until he sees SSJ2 Gohan. He goes LSSj.

Broly tanks the punch, hits Gohan back. The fight goes on as usual with Broly having the advantage tanking a punch and a kick. He's using his Back breaking maneuver with Gohan looking at the lava afterwards.

"That's the only way I can defeat Broli!" as he looks towards the Lava. This means Gohan knows his SSj2 is no match for Broly. Broly falls for it like so, but we all know he survives with his Ki Shield.

Krillin saves Base Gohan who's clothes are ruined.

Krillin has a lot of hair, but no moustache.

Broly comes back, smiling as his Ki Shield is around him.

Krillin apologizes to 18 for fighting Broly but gets one-shotted and it's over. Gohan survives Broly's Omega Eraser (not to be confused with Blaster). Broly is torturing Gohan over and over, the dragonballs are set free.

Broly laughs as he enjoys torturing Gohan. Bear hug time, Broly puts more pressure but Videl throws a crystal, Broly is distracted and deflects the crystal. Gohan is enraged, goes SSj and launches his KHH.

"iI am the daughter of Mr. Satan"

Broly destroys the crystal. Gohan is outraged "You Bastard!"

"That would be useless, I'll put you to rest now!" as Broly sees Gohan launching his KHH. The Omega Blaster is winning, Goten comes. They are still losing as Broly laughs his ***** off even more, there is no evening out.

Trunks wakes up. "Our power is not enough, we need more power!" Gohan says as Goten wishes for Goku.

"What are you doing giving up over just that!? You have to use up every last bit of power you hold!" Goten recognizes Goku's voice.

"There ain't anything else!" Goku comes by. Goten smiles. Goku goes SSj and launches his KHH. "Shen Long brought Father here!" Goten says.

Broly sees Goku, he stumbled. They are still losing.

"Gohan, you ain't giving enough power! Goten, don't be scared!" Goku knows Goten's name.

"is it fine with you guys if the Earth is smashed to pieces by Broli!? Can't you protect if it I ain't around!?" Broly laughs more launching his Ki Balls.

Trunks launches his blast, "Damn...To think there's a guy out there that our powers can't reach..." Trunks says. He throws the blast. "If im dreaming wake me up!" Broly laughs, trying to launch more but notices Trunk's blast. The more he launches the more it doesn't go through. "Now!" Goku says as he goes SSj2 with Gohan. Broly's ki shield competed with the blast for about 3 seconds but we are shown no damage from Broly until he hits the sun, meaning that he could have survived it and that's what everyone thinks.

The Dragonballs are scattered. "Dad!" Gohan says but Goku disappeared. "Dad you did come here didn't you?"

Yeah, he did.

Videl celebrates with Gohan, as she starts chasing after Gohan.

Derp, the kids are hungry.


Both movies imply that:

Movie 8:
RSSJ Broly > MSSJ Goku
SPC ~ LSSJ Broly >> FP PC > MSSJ Goku

Movie 10:
SSJ Broly = LSSJ Broly (Movie 8)
LSSJ Broly >> SSj2 Goku ~ SSj2 Gohan Movie 10 > SSj2 Kid Gohan Cell Games

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In Gohans Bio it states that Gohan didnt use SSJ 2 after Volume 37 (I believe its that one) which is the end of the bodokai, and hasnt yeat shown the fight with dabura.

Dabura's Bio states Gohan was SSJ 2.

Another is that it states Recoome killed Gohan... But thats kinda obviously NOT TRUE.
And that recoome's attack was meant to take out all three of them (Veggie , gohan , and Krillin) but was only aimed at Vegeta.

There are more, and Ill add them shortly, but I would like to confirm my research. Stay tuned.

EDIT: Here we go This is all I feel Like searching through for now. But there are a handful of more.

*Daizenshuu 1 has a pic of 3rd form Freeza, but states it as 2nd Form.

*Daizenshuu 2 States SSJ Vegeta appeared in Volume 32 when it was actually 29
" States Kaioshin appeared in Volume 39 when it was 37.
" Misses some battles, that may not be considered battles, but includes things like Goku V Fish... Soooo
*Daizenshuu 4 states Buu used Goku's Instant Transmission, but it was actually Shin Konido which is Kaioshin's type of teleportation.

*Daizenshuu 7 Tenshinhan's profile lists one of his battles was against no.19, while it actually was against no.17
" 17 uses Kienzan
" Goten was born while Goku fought cell
" Goku's first KHH was used on Tenshinhan, but it was actually Jackie Chun he used it on
" Bra born in 780 in one part of the book, and then later stated to be born in 778.
" The timeline has other errors. Like Yamcha meet, and defeat, and so on.
" Its states Goku stayed dead longer than a year for the saiyans, but he was only dead for a little over 11.
Also dont forget that over the official PL lists from V-Jump, SEG and so on, there are some literaly factual errors, like Piccolo Diamao's 260, despite tenshinhan being 250 at the start of Z and the fact that Weighted Goku from Piccolo Jr being > Piccolo D and Tein being on par with that goku

The list goes on.

Regardless, even if it's true so Broly is still Good Buu's level at best and no way above.

Good Buu >/~ M10 LSSJ Broly > SSJ2 Goku.

Even though there is no evidence he is above SSJ2 Goku.
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Youtube? Where paki lies? Nah, you guys have too much followers there.

Seems like you given up.
I see the worthless piece of ***** known as sircum keeps trolling after I proved him wron countless times. What followers? You have your own followers here. You had the chance to face me in a PM on YouTube just you and me one on one but you ran away because you know how I proved you wrong. I proved you wrong and debunked all the crap you keep saying so you are kinda mad now. You don't even know whata Movie means and the diffrence between a Movie to Anime and Manga. Everyone has debunked the crap you say. I want you to debate me on a PM on Youtube just you and me. Don't be a coward.
Wron?

Me trolling?

Please. Toei makes Movies and Anime, derp, so in their universe everything is a bit more different. And the fact that AT was involved in Movie 8 and 10 is more than enough to disapprove your worthless LSSJ Broly = USSJ Trunks argument.
This is why I hate to argue with fools like you. I never said Broly=USSJ Trunks in terms of powers. You are making *****s up and can't read correctly. AT drawing Broly means nothing. He also drew Lord Slug and come on. If you are so right so come and talk to me in a PM and don't talk bad about me behind my bacl like an hypocrite. You are denying the facts which are shown to you is nore than enough proof you are biased. :=]:
I never said in terms of power either.

You said LSSj Broly is based off USSj Trunks.

More than enough to ignore you and your logic.
I never said LSSJ Broly is based on USSJ. Once again, you are making up crap. Anyway, I see you want to ignore me after I challenged you to come and talk about it in a PM. Why can't you come? Don't be a coward, dude. It's alright if you say the Z Fighters Levels can be shown in a Movie when they were not even shown in the Anime(Toei's main and first work) even though it's retarded. :w00t:
Really? You didn't?

Alright, here. I can supply an endless amount of quotes from you:
http://w11.zetaboards.com/Shinden_Reborn/topic/8113149/1/

"Who is that Pak guy you are talking about? I copied it from Ultimate Gohan8. Anyway, my logic is fine but yours is not simply because you are denying the obvious facts. I already adressed all the crap you just said above so it's obvious you are biased. M8 has nothing to do with the Cell Games and the Cell Games were not even made in the Anime by that time and Cell Games Goku or Gohan as well and this is why Gohan was weaker than Goku and had no SSJ2. I am talking about the Anime release and not the Manga. Movies follow Anime time line. If the Manga meant anything so Vegeta and Trunks should be USSJ in M7. It's pretty obvious you have no idea what you are talking about. The Movie is based on the arc before the Cell Games and this is why Broly is based on USSJ Trunks and all the scenes are based on the arc when Vegeta and Trunks were fighting Cell. Do you seriously can't understand it?"

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Sep 15 2012, 04:46 PM
In Gohans Bio it states that Gohan didnt use SSJ 2 after Volume 37 (I believe its that one) which is the end of the bodokai, and hasnt yeat shown the fight with dabura.

Dabura's Bio states Gohan was SSJ 2.

Another is that it states Recoome killed Gohan... But thats kinda obviously NOT TRUE.
And that recoome's attack was meant to take out all three of them (Veggie , gohan , and Krillin) but was only aimed at Vegeta.

There are more, and Ill add them shortly, but I would like to confirm my research. Stay tuned.

EDIT: Here we go This is all I feel Like searching through for now. But there are a handful of more.

*Daizenshuu 1 has a pic of 3rd form Freeza, but states it as 2nd Form.

*Daizenshuu 2 States SSJ Vegeta appeared in Volume 32 when it was actually 29
" States Kaioshin appeared in Volume 39 when it was 37.
" Misses some battles, that may not be considered battles, but includes things like Goku V Fish... Soooo
*Daizenshuu 4 states Buu used Goku's Instant Transmission, but it was actually Shin Konido which is Kaioshin's type of teleportation.

*Daizenshuu 7 Tenshinhan's profile lists one of his battles was against no.19, while it actually was against no.17
" 17 uses Kienzan
" Goten was born while Goku fought cell
" Goku's first KHH was used on Tenshinhan, but it was actually Jackie Chun he used it on
" Bra born in 780 in one part of the book, and then later stated to be born in 778.
" The timeline has other errors. Like Yamcha meet, and defeat, and so on.
" Its states Goku stayed dead longer than a year for the saiyans, but he was only dead for a little over 11.
Also dont forget that over the official PL lists from V-Jump, SEG and so on, there are some literaly factual errors, like Piccolo Diamao's 260, despite tenshinhan being 250 at the start of Z and the fact that Weighted Goku from Piccolo Jr being > Piccolo D and Tein being on par with that goku

The list goes on.

Regardless, even if it's true so Broly is still Good Buu's level at best and no way above.

Good Buu >/~ M10 LSSJ Broly > SSJ2 Goku.

Even though there is no evidence he is above SSJ2 Goku.
There is evidence that Broly is above SSj2 Goku, broseph.

Once again you use different Daiz when you try to contradict a Daiz that is only for movies.

Toei made the movies, and their studios made the Daiz, don't you think they want Broly higher than SSj2 Goku with their movies?

Toei's Movie Guidebooks > Their Manga Guidebooks.
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Kyouka Suigetsu
Sep 15 2012, 04:29 PM
I will admit that not everything in the Daiz is reliable, as later copies have info differing from that of previous ones (sometimes). Everything should be taken with a grain of salt, but it's still the second most reliable source of info after the manga. Unless the manga contradicts it, then it's good.

And the non-canon movies have no manga counterparts....naturally, the guidebooks are perfect for movies....
one daizenshuu says gohan was ssj1 against dabura, another says gohan was ssj2....which one to believe??

this not only contradicts the manga, but ALSO CONTRADICTS ITSELF!!

i cant believe Princeofsaiyajins456 got brainwashed because of the daiz. daiz is fake, and will always remain fake.
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Sep 15 2012, 04:49 PM
Kyouka Suigetsu
Sep 15 2012, 04:29 PM
I will admit that not everything in the Daiz is reliable, as later copies have info differing from that of previous ones (sometimes). Everything should be taken with a grain of salt, but it's still the second most reliable source of info after the manga. Unless the manga contradicts it, then it's good.

And the non-canon movies have no manga counterparts....naturally, the guidebooks are perfect for movies....
one daizenshuu says gohan was ssj1 against dabura, another says gohan was ssj2....which one to believe??

this not only contradicts the manga, but ALSO CONTRADICTS ITSELF!!

i cant believe Princeofsaiyajins456 got brainwashed because of the daiz. daiz is fake, and will always remain fake.
This is getting uncontrollable.

Daiz 6 > Fanbase opinions.
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