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Why are the Base Powers so high in GT?
Topic Started: Sep 14 2012, 07:03 AM (1,770 Views)
dangerousbob
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When I see comments like "GT Base Gohan smashes Ultimate Gohan" I am confused.

Why are the base powers so high in GT that always seemed so strange to me.
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drarixio
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GT logic.
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Generally I put it down to Toei's illogical opinion of Z. They saw the series and saw that 'they blow ***** up and fly around and stuff'. And then tried to magnify it in order to make the series 'better'.

Then people who put a lot more thought into it realize the maths is a damn nightmare to figure out. And extremely illogical.
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It's not that hard to figure out at all. Myself and a few others have managed to analyze and figure out quite a bit of GT's powerscaling. It just takes more than a glance before saying, "***** this, GT sucks." :)

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GT powers are so high because Toei made them that high. Simple.
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What's more ridiculous is people have Base GT Goku > SSj1+SSJ2 GT Goku
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People train, and Toei seems to take potential unlocking seriously when it comes to Super Saiyan 4.
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GT was just made that way. Plus, there are really only a few times where it's actually "illogical"....most of the time, people merely pass it off as "illogical" because they don't like how it works.

People don't like seeing Base Gohan > Ultimate Gohan.
Or Pan > Buuhan.
Or Rildo > Buuhan.
Or Super Bebi Vegeta > SSJ Vegetto.

So they merely pass it off as "illogical"...

Oh, and GT also has a poop SSJ multiplier for no reason. Forgot about that. So, naturally, base would be even higher than some may think....
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Sep 14 2012, 10:20 PM
GT was just made that way. Plus, there are really only a few times where it's actually "illogical"....most of the time, people merely pass it off as "illogical" because they don't like how it works.

People don't like seeing Base Gohan > Ultimate Gohan.
Or Pan > Buuhan.
Or Rildo > Buuhan.
Or Super Bebi Vegeta > SSJ Vegetto.

So they merely pass it off as "illogical"...

Oh, and GT also has a poop SSJ multiplier for no reason. Forgot about that. So, naturally, base would be even higher than some may think....
I couldn't agree more. A lot of it is just pure dislike for the powers being so high.

"A random machine mutant stronger than the strongest villain from Z? Preposterous. There's no explanation for this. Illogical!"
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Except they scouted the Saiyans
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GT was just made that way. Plus, there are really only a few times where it's actually "illogical"....most of the time, people merely pass it off as "illogical" because they don't like how it works.

People don't like seeing Base Gohan > Ultimate Gohan.
Or Pan > Buuhan.
Or Rildo > Buuhan.
Or Super Bebi Vegeta > SSJ Vegetto.

So they merely pass it off as "illogical"...

Oh, and GT also has a poop SSJ multiplier for no reason. Forgot about that. So, naturally, base would be even higher than some may think....


How can a Base Gohan, who never trains, get stronger than his Ultimate form? How can Pan, a child, get stronger than the strongest villain who outclassed everyone, including SS3. How can a "random machine mutant" get stronger than Buuhan? It's just a robot...How can Super Baby Vegeta get stronger than a Potara fusion of Goku and Vegeta in SS?
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How can a Base Gohan, who never trains, get stronger than his Ultimate form?


He did train. How else do you think he has Super Saiyan again? GT Perfect Files also states that he trained. And since he trained, his base form is basically his "Ultimate" form...just trained. Figure the rest out.

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How can Pan, a child, get stronger than the strongest villain who outclassed everyone, including SS3.


How could Gohan, a child, get stronger than the strongest villain (at that time) who outclassed everyone, including Goku? Pan is a Saiyan hybrid of the next generation. Naturally she'd be far stronger than Goku, Gohan, or Goten was at her age.

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How can a "random machine mutant" get stronger than Buuhan? It's just a robot...


How can a random "android" or "cyborg" get stronger than Frieza? It's just a robot.....

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How can Super Baby Vegeta get stronger than a Potara fusion of Goku and Vegeta in SS?


Why can't he? Gohan > Gotenks and nobody complains. Not to mention that Z Goku/Vegeta are ****weak next to GT Goku/Vegeta.....being stronger than someone is not a "plothole", get over it (no offense ^_^ ).
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Gohan was said to carry on with his training, and Rildo is technology just like the androids being stronger than Frieza. I can see it. Pan is a hybrid and we all know how strong hybrids can become.
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Sep 14 2012, 08:25 PM
It's not that hard to figure out at all. Myself and a few others have managed to analyze and figure out quite a bit of GT's powerscaling. It just takes more than a glance before saying, "***** this, GT sucks." :)

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GT powers are so high because Toei made them that high. Simple.
Yeah, there hasn't been a whole lot of us who's attempted this...speaking of that I think I'll continue with those, after I redo certain Z levels first, thanks from bringing this up.

As to the OP, It's pretty much what's been said before me, it's what TOEI wanted, but AT kinda hinted at this at EOZ so TOEI isn't all to blame...they just went a little further than AT did.

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So SSJ4 Gogeta is THE strongest that ever graced the universe?
Who couldn't he kill I wonder?
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Probably no one. He'd be the god of the universe for about 15 minutes just like Vegito would have been. Nobody compares to them.
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