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Ultimate Trunkten vs. SSj Vegito
Topic Started: Sep 14 2012, 12:13 AM (3,897 Views)
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^Doing that isn't even necessary, given that Base Gotenks post-RoSaT is still much stronger than EoZ Base Goku.
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Oh hell yes, I do think SS3 Goku did surpass Post Rosat Base Gotenks, but not by much at all.
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EoZ SSJ3 Goku > Base Gotenks for sure, it's just that his base is still lower. :p Gohan has a healthy lead regardless.
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Yeah...you could say that, the fact that SS3 Goku wasn't any where close to a match to Super Boo, who was miles ahead of Chbi Boo, who couldn't be that far ahead of Fat Boo, where Ultimate Gohan could toy with Super Boo, who was miles ahead of SS3 Goku.

So yeah, you would say a healthy lead...the understatement of the year. :D
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Tryna give Goku some credit here, but FINE.
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Slayerslice
Oct 13 2012, 07:24 PM
Goku fought Oob who was a SSJ3 equal, x50 and you have a Super Saiyan's that's x50 the SSJ3 from Buu Saga, is it wrong then to say that SSJ3 Goku surpassed Gohan in the end of Z?
Even with that, Gotenks would still be ahead of Goku, let alone Gohan.
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Now you are just hating Goku lol.
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^We got another ninjajp here (no offense ninja, but you do say that a lot).

I can just as easily say "I guess you hate Gotenks" (even though I'm sure you do...everyone hates Gotenks). But it doesn't really matter, you have to look at things from an un-biased point of view.
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You guess? Gotenks is haxed in every way.
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I guess if you want to look at it that way......
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Victorious Unstoppable
Oct 13 2012, 11:57 PM
All it takes is a couple seconds to sense ki. I would assume it would take even less to sense your own ki lol.


Then he lately should have said "Like I tought, I'm miles above you" and not "I even didn't expect to be so superior compared to you"..
But again, this "battle" is endless, because you won't change your mind and I won't change mine.

Super Gogito
Oct 14 2012, 12:27 AM

He claims that the AxB multiplier only works for Vegito, he never said anything about Kibito Kai, I think. Also, I kinda agree with him that we should treat anything official true unless it's contradicted by the manga.


Exactly, Potara is not said to be always A X B, only Vegetto is said to work like that.

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Oct 14 2012, 12:36 AM
crashbreaka
Oct 14 2012, 12:31 AM
Maybe I should go have a look at SEG again then lol.
Well I'm not saying that everything released from the guidebooks is "true" because it does contradict the manga sometimes, and it's just outright skeptical. Take the V Jump for example, it stated that SSJ Goku's power level is 150,000,000 at the Buu saga, and it stated that 5th from Cooler's power level is 470,000,000. Fans already don't believe in those statement. To be honest, I'm just as skeptical about the AxB multiplier just as much as you are because if it was REALLY true, then there'd no reason for Vegito to transform. Unless.... Buuhan is stronger than we thought! :o_O:


V Jump numbers are useless and nonsensical, I personally don't give a crap to V Jump and other stuff like that.
SEG is very different, it's a true guide, surely it has errors, but it's supervised and accepted by the mangaka himself.

Kyouka Suigetsu
Oct 14 2012, 12:51 AM
Buuhan > Base Vegetto is implied; Base Vegetto is probably only equal to Buuhan at best. So, unless you think Buuhan > Base Goku * Base Vegeta, it doesn't work.


Base Vegetto was expected to be weaker than Buuhan (even his Ssj form was expected to not be so stronger than Buuhan), but then he discovered he was not.
Him being "definitely strongest" and A X B is just perfect to me.
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Base Vegito > Buuhan in anime. Base And he looked to be 50% stronger then Buuhan aswell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK_rnEQJKqI
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Anime;

Base Vegetto > Boohan (Suppressed)

Boohan may be overconfident, but he's got Piccolo's intelligence and knows his position.
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Slayerslice
Oct 14 2012, 11:39 AM
Base Vegito > Buuhan in anime. Base And he looked to be 50% stronger then Buuhan aswell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK_rnEQJKqI

I don't know if it's in the FUNimation dub, but Boo does state Vegetto is below him, and Vegetto transforms.

Gohan-Boo > Base Vegetto > Gohan-Boo (suppressed/holding back)
Slayerslice
Oct 14 2012, 09:06 AM
You guess? Gotenks is haxed in every way.

Yeah, no doubt about that. So is Gogeta, but you argued tooth and nail for him. :p
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Oct 14 2012, 08:24 AM
Now you are just hating Goku lol.

Now you are just hating Gotenks. Lol.
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