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Ultimate Trunkten vs. SSj Vegito
Topic Started: Sep 14 2012, 12:13 AM (3,900 Views)
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Yeah but you really can't bring maths into Potara Fusion.
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So what Saga Vegeta and Goku?
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Oct 12 2012, 09:30 PM
Yeah but you really can't bring maths into Potara Fusion.
This is not math, this is evidence: after Frieza, power levels become so high that it is said it's nearly impossible to figure them; it's obvious we are in the billions.
But even without "maths", knowing what Vegetto is officially said to be is more than enough to me.

With Gokhan or Trunkten, only assuming that they also are A X B (and that would still be conjecture) would make sense to a fight with Vegetto; otherwise, any versus topic with Vegetto is a non-sense, as there are literal dimensions of power between Vegetto and the rest of DB, because who made the manga wanted so.
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That's not really what I was saying. It looked like you said Potara Fusion is just Goku's PL times Vegeta's PL

Which I don't think has actually been stated.
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Oct 12 2012, 09:35 PM
So what Saga Vegeta and Goku?
It just says Vegetto, so I'd assume Boo Saga.
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Oct 12 2012, 10:01 PM
That's not really what I was saying. It looked like you said Potara Fusion is just Goku's PL times Vegeta's PL

Which I don't think has actually been stated.
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That's the SEG: On p.63 it describes the Potara fusion as being closer to multiplication rather than simple addition in the way it increases power: Vegetto's battle power is thus equivalent to Goku's battle power multiplied by Vegeta's.
Furthermore, all the information in Super Exciting Guide's training section is said to be based on data that was supervised and approved by Toriyama himself.

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Base Goku x Base Vegeta would already be >>> Gohan-Buu IMO. SSjin is overkill. There is no way the fusion formula is A x B. Anyway, Halfbreeds have more potential than Full Blooded saiyans. So Ultimate Trunkten would be > Vegetto, BUT there is that rival's boost. I think it is pretty large...
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Base Vegito was whooping Gohan-Buu though, so there might be truth in that A x B thing.
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Oct 12 2012, 10:08 PM
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Oct 12 2012, 10:01 PM
That's not really what I was saying. It looked like you said Potara Fusion is just Goku's PL times Vegeta's PL

Which I don't think has actually been stated.
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That's the SEG: On p.63 it describes the Potara fusion as being closer to multiplication rather than simple addition in the way it increases power: Vegetto's battle power is thus equivalent to Goku's battle power multiplied by Vegeta's.
Furthermore, all the information in Super Exciting Guide's training section is said to be based on data that was supervised and approved by Toriyama himself.

Well that's just a difference of opinion then, I don't use SEG :p
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Oct 12 2012, 11:07 PM
Base Vegito was whooping Gohan-Buu though, so there might be truth in that A x B thing.
He was stated to be weaker than Gohan-Boo, and then transformed.
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Slayerslice
Oct 12 2012, 11:07 PM
Base Vegito was whooping Gohan-Buu though, so there might be truth in that A x B thing.
Sigh....That is what we call filler. Base Vegetto never fights in the manga.
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It's rather pointless arguing about filler Victorious...it's an endless circle that will never end.

I still stick with my statement that Vegetto has no hope at winning here...
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Oct 13 2012, 05:41 AM
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Oct 12 2012, 11:07 PM
Base Vegito was whooping Gohan-Buu though, so there might be truth in that A x B thing.
Sigh....That is what we call filler. Base Vegetto never fights in the manga.
I don't care if it's filler, he was whooping GohanBuu, he even stopped Buu's energya attack with ease.

I am talking anime here.
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Oct 13 2012, 03:00 PM
Victorious Unstoppable
Oct 13 2012, 05:41 AM
Slayerslice
Oct 12 2012, 11:07 PM
Base Vegito was whooping Gohan-Buu though, so there might be truth in that A x B thing.
Sigh....That is what we call filler. Base Vegetto never fights in the manga.
I don't care if it's filler, he was whooping GohanBuu, he even stopped Buu's energya attack with ease.

I am talking anime here.
Anime SSjin 3 Goku > Gohan-Buu?
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Oct 13 2012, 04:39 PM
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Oct 13 2012, 03:00 PM
Victorious Unstoppable
Oct 13 2012, 05:41 AM
Slayerslice
Oct 12 2012, 11:07 PM
Base Vegito was whooping Gohan-Buu though, so there might be truth in that A x B thing.
Sigh....That is what we call filler. Base Vegetto never fights in the manga.
I don't care if it's filler, he was whooping GohanBuu, he even stopped Buu's energya attack with ease.

I am talking anime here.
Anime SSjin 3 Goku > Gohan-Buu?
EoZ SSJ3 Goku? Most definately.
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