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SSJ4 Vegito (Buu Saga) vs GT Base Goku
Topic Started: Sep 10 2012, 05:44 PM (2,044 Views)
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Who wins?
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This seems kind of... lopsided. Isn't GT base Goku equal to (or stronger than, I'm not really sure) Super Saiyan 3 Goku from the Buu Saga? I think Vegito in his base form would be a curb stomp. Super Saiyan 4 just seems ridiculous.
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BOGT Base Goku is much stronger than his SSjin 3 power from the Boo Saga.

I think it'd take SSjin 4 for Vegetto to beat Shadow Dragon Saga Base Goku, honestly. But before that, he could take Goku without much trouble.
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SSJ4 Vegetto >>>>>>>>> SSJ3 Vegetto >>>>> Base Kid Goku ( Baby saga ) > SSJ GT Gohan ( Baby saga ) >> SSJ2 Vegetto >>>> SSJ Vegetto >>> Buuhan >= Base GT Gohan.
SSJ4 Vegetto one-shots here. But SSJ2 Kid Goku ( Baby saga ) will be probably stronger than SSJ4 Vegetto.
And i not overpower , just i have Base GT Gohan around Buuhan or Buutenks
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I have vegito as winning
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What? Nobody is stronger than SSjin Vegetto until Super Vegeta-Baby 2. Everybody else has to be weaker up to that point.
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Sep 10 2012, 07:20 PM
What? Nobody is stronger than SSjin Vegetto until Super Vegeta-Baby 2. Everybody else has to be weaker up to that point.
But going through power-scaling, anyone stronger than SSjin Goku (against Rilldo) can win against SSjin Vegetto, and Peak Base Goku is stronger than Peak Super Oob who's stronger SSjin 4 Goku (Baby Saga).
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ssj vegito > ssj3 goku(@baby) is impossible UNLESS the gaps between pre-baby vegeta, gohan and goku are really small(which of course cancels the base goku > ssj gohan thing)
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Sep 10 2012, 08:38 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Sep 10 2012, 07:20 PM
What? Nobody is stronger than SSjin Vegetto until Super Vegeta-Baby 2. Everybody else has to be weaker up to that point.
But going through power-scaling, anyone stronger than SSjin Goku (against Rilldo) can win against SSjin Vegetto, and Peak Base Goku is stronger than Peak Super Oob who's stronger SSjin 4 Goku (Baby Saga).
Then redo your powerscaling, because you can't just throw out a statement like that.
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Sep 10 2012, 08:38 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Sep 10 2012, 07:20 PM
What? Nobody is stronger than SSjin Vegetto until Super Vegeta-Baby 2. Everybody else has to be weaker up to that point.
But going through power-scaling, anyone stronger than SSjin Goku (against Rilldo) can win against SSjin Vegetto, and Peak Base Goku is stronger than Peak Super Oob who's stronger SSjin 4 Goku (Baby Saga).
If the power-scaling goes against actual statements then I'm afraid it's wrong. Super Baby 2 is the biggest ki he ever felt, thus the only one surpassing Vegito. [Possibly SSJin 3 Vegetto... I dunno, I think I made a topic about that.] Otherwise it would have been noted.
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@Pyro:

GT Base Gohan >= Ultimate Gohan at the minimum. Unless you have Base Vegetto above GT Base Gohan, then GT SSJ Gohan has already surpassed SSJ Vegetto (unless you take in the crap multipliers in GT...then you could probably have SSJ Vegetto as the strongest up until Super Bebi 2....)
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Sep 10 2012, 10:21 PM
@Pyro:

GT Base Gohan >= Ultimate Gohan at the minimum. Unless you have Base Vegetto above GT Base Gohan, then GT SSJ Gohan has already surpassed SSJ Vegetto (unless you take in the crap multipliers in GT...then you could probably have SSJ Vegetto as the strongest up until Super Bebi 2....)
I do have small GT multipliers. Rildo implies the Super Saiyan multiplier is around 2x when he says Goku wasn't using "even half his power" after transforming. GT Perfect Files states Super Saiyan 2 was usually skipped because it didn't provide a drastic increase in power. I don't remember about Super Saiyan 3, but CatouttaHell used to argue that the combined multipliers should be less than 10x because of Golden Oozaru being implied to be a bigger increase or something like that. Not sure.

But yeah, GT multipliers are incredibly small. Toei even nerfed Fusion Dance. There's no way Omega Shenron was so far above the Super Saiyan 4s that SSjin 4 Gogeta couldn't finish the job without using a good amount of effort.
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Well then, there you go.

SSJ Vegetto >>> Everyone until Super Bebi 2 is born. :)

BTW: I know what the GT multipliers are..... :@
Edited by Kyouks, Sep 10 2012, 10:31 PM.
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Exactly. You either have to use small multipliers, or give Vegetto a huge multiplier that nobody else got.
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Dunno what to say. But damn it... I kinda agree with Puccio about Goku maybe meant SSjin 3 Vegetto.
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