Do you believe in destiny?

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Do you believe in destiny?
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+ Pelador	Sep 8 2012, 10:13 PM Post #61
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Your problem with this arguement is that you have this idea that things are random. I don't think anything is. You can't argue for free will when you think nothing is random and you don't actually have any control over the future. So if you don't believe in free will then you must believe in destiny. i.e an unchangeable fate.
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anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 10:25 PM Post #62
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	Pillowdoor Sep 8 2012, 10:13 PM Your problem with this arguement is that you have this idea that things are random. I don't think anything is. You can't argue for free will when you think nothing is random and you don't actually have any control over the future. So if you don't believe in free will then you must believe in destiny. i.e an unchangeable fate. Your problem with this argument is you think no one has any control over their lives and god predetermined them. If no one has control over their lives then it's in the hands of god there is no other way this can be explained. So you are either blessed going to heaven when you die or doomed to hell before you are even born. Randomness is real, you roll a dice it's a random outcome every time. I don't know how you could possibly think that no one has any control over themselves. Edit: you must have been destined to like all of your own posts huh? You don't like them because you want to but because you are programmed to? Edited by anytyme, Sep 8 2012, 10:28 PM.



+ Clearin	Sep 8 2012, 10:34 PM Post #63
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	I personally don't believe in destiny. I think everything is done by our own free will and that nothing is set-in-stone. But I won't rule it out as being impossible, who knows.



Arkadom	Sep 8 2012, 10:37 PM Post #64
Bargle nawdle zouss Posts: 3,774 Group: Member Member #5,620 Joined: January 12, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Naruto, Shaman King What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Shaman King, Naruto, Blue Exorcist, Bleach, Pokemon Adventures	The past few years have lead me to believe some people are destined for some things, while others have everything left up to them.
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+ Pelador	Sep 8 2012, 10:42 PM Post #65
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	I never even mentioned God. I'm talking about science and nature. For your information, the roll of a dice is determined by how you throw it. It's just mathematics. It's not actualy random at all. There's always a reason it lands the way it does. You don't understand why I don't think people have any real control? Ask yourself why you are posting in this thread? Why are you using the internet? Why do you even turn your computer on? Chances are it was because of other people or things that made you curious to learn more information. In other words you had a reason for it and those reasons were put in place by an outside influence.
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anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 10:48 PM Post #66
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	Pillowdoor Sep 8 2012, 10:42 PM I never even mentioned God. I'm talking about science and nature. For your information, the roll of a dice is determined by how you throw it. It's just mathematics. It's not actualy random at all. There's always a reason it lands the way it does. You don't understand why I don't think people have any real control? Ask yourself why you are posting in this thread? Why are you using the internet? Why do you even turn your computer on? Chances are it was because of other people or things that made you curious to learn more information. In other words you had a reason for it and those reasons were put in place by an outside influence. You don't have to mention god because what you are saying requires some supernatural force to predetermine our lives. Influences are real but they don't define destiny. My interest in dbz brought me here. Media got me introduced to dbz. Akira Toriyama made dbz. It was a bunch of chance events that brought me here not destiny. The roll of a dice is random because you can't get it to land the same way every time. Why do you think there are trick dices so the outcome is how you want it to be. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to science. Edited by anytyme, Sep 8 2012, 11:09 PM.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Sep 8 2012, 10:52 PM Post #67
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	Toriyama made DBZ because he was influenced by many other things, and thus was inspired to take up writing at some point in his life, and also was able to come up with the plot of Dragon Ball. You were introduced to DBZ for a reason. If you saw it on TV, you watched TV for a reason. For some reason the TV was there. edit: there is no chance involved. Everything has a cause, nothing happens on its own. Edited by TrunksinSwimmingTrunks, Sep 8 2012, 10:53 PM.
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Arkadom	Sep 8 2012, 10:53 PM Post #68
Bargle nawdle zouss Posts: 3,774 Group: Member Member #5,620 Joined: January 12, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Naruto, Shaman King What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Shaman King, Naruto, Blue Exorcist, Bleach, Pokemon Adventures	This topic will wind up confusing me in so many ways......Evil... I believe in destiny, I just believe some people are not affected by it.
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* Yu Narukami	Sep 8 2012, 10:54 PM Post #69
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Alright then. So, the minute I was born, I was destined to watch Dragon Ball Z at 5:00 PM on Toonami when I was six years old? When my parents were born, they were destined to turn the channel at that precise moment? Its impossible.



anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 11:01 PM Post #70
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	wolffanghameha Sep 8 2012, 10:52 PM Toriyama made DBZ because he was influenced by many other things, and thus was inspired to take up writing at some point in his life, and also was able to come up with the plot of Dragon Ball. You were introduced to DBZ for a reason. If you saw it on TV, you watched TV for a reason. For some reason the TV was there. edit: there is no chance involved. Everything has a cause, nothing happens on its own. I was not introduced for a reason. I watch it because I like it. The first time I saw it I could have walked away from it forever. Different people have different tastes. Maybe you should take a psychology class. Then you might understand how the mind works and that nothing is actually pre determined.



Meowth	Sep 8 2012, 11:13 PM Post #71
=._.= Posts: 130,670 Group: Princess Member #23 Joined: November 22, 2004 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Fruits Basket	The Juggernaut Sep 8 2012, 10:54 PM Alright then. So, the minute I was born, I was destined to watch Dragon Ball Z at 5:00 PM on Toonami when I was six years old? When my parents were born, they were destined to turn the channel at that precise moment? Its impossible. It's not impossible but destiny is probably the wrong word to describe it. There is the idea of multi universes, which means everything possible can happen and has happened, you experience one of those possible things. I'm sure there is a lot more to it than that, hopefully you know what I mean, it's a theory I heard about a while ago and I forgot a lot of the details lol. Needless to say, I don't think we fully understand the universe and time. But I don't think things are predetermined.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Sep 8 2012, 11:16 PM Post #72
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	anytyme Sep 8 2012, 11:01 PM wolffanghameha Sep 8 2012, 10:52 PM Toriyama made DBZ because he was influenced by many other things, and thus was inspired to take up writing at some point in his life, and also was able to come up with the plot of Dragon Ball. You were introduced to DBZ for a reason. If you saw it on TV, you watched TV for a reason. For some reason the TV was there. edit: there is no chance involved. Everything has a cause, nothing happens on its own. I was not introduced for a reason. I watch it because I like it. The first time I saw it I could have walked away from it forever. Different people have different tastes. Maybe you should take a psychology class. Then you might understand how the mind works and that nothing is actually pre determined. I have taken a psychology class..... yeh anyway there's a reason you liked it when you saw it. Either because of your genetics, or because of your earlier upbringing/environmental exposure. edit: or a combination of environment and genetics. Edited by TrunksinSwimmingTrunks, Sep 8 2012, 11:16 PM.
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+ Pelador	Sep 8 2012, 11:26 PM Post #73
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	I don't know how much genetics have to do with liking a tv show but that's a discussion for another day. it's true that upbringing can have a huge effect on what you like though. For instance I was 3 years olf when I first watched The Terminator. Now you could argue that the effect the film had on my young mind may have shaped who I am as a person today and thus, my destiny in the future. I have to admit, the term destiny is a little confusing.
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* Yu Narukami	Sep 8 2012, 11:32 PM Post #74
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	I see 'destiny' as refusal to accept responsibility of one's own actions and the implications of said actions. Why take responsibility and blame yourself when you can say that it was 'destiny' and protect your own psyche? You can blame it on circumstances beyond your control.



anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 11:36 PM Post #75
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	Pillowdoor Sep 8 2012, 11:26 PM I don't know how much genetics have to do with liking a tv show but that's a discussion for another day. it's true that upbringing can have a huge effect on what you like though. For instance I was 3 years olf when I first watched The Terminator. Now you could argue that the effect the film had on my young mind may have shaped who I am as a person today and thus, my destiny in the future. I have to admit, the term destiny is a little confusing. That's not destiny that's influence.



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