Do you believe in destiny?

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Do you believe in destiny?
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anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 08:02 PM Post #46
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	wolffanghameha Sep 8 2012, 07:58 PM No, everything is not predetermined at any set time, it adapts as you go through various experiences. However, ultimately how your brain changes is not under your control. Like if you go through a traumatic experience, you could go for counselling, but whether or not you choose to go for counselling depends on other experiences in your life. edit: I guess it depends on what you think destiny means What you described is not destiny that is cause and effect. I think you have destiny confused with chain events. If you want to call it destiny that's fine but by definition it's a predertimed course of events. Edited by anytyme, Sep 8 2012, 08:04 PM.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Sep 8 2012, 08:09 PM Post #47
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	But each cause is caused by a previous effect (edit: or set of effects), so in a way what will happen to you at any point in your life is predetermined at birth, and even before birth. Edited by TrunksinSwimmingTrunks, Sep 8 2012, 08:09 PM.
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anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 08:12 PM Post #48
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	wolffanghameha Sep 8 2012, 08:09 PM But each cause is caused by a previous effect (edit: or set of effects), so in a way what will happen to you at any point in your life is predetermined at birth, and even before birth. Example?



MrTsoi	Sep 8 2012, 08:17 PM Post #49
What? You wannah peace of me? Posts: 1,338 Group: Member Member #7,834 Joined: June 25, 2012 Gender Male Country Netherlands Favourite Anime Drrr, Danhi Koukesai No Nichijou, Oran Highschool, Dragonball What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Spam section	it's basicly like you take the wrong drive way and experiences a whole lot of problems because you chose that driveway.
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anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 08:19 PM Post #50
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	StormOverlord156 Sep 8 2012, 08:17 PM it's basicly like you take the wrong drive way and experiences a whole lot of problems because you chose that driveway. That is not destiny.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Sep 8 2012, 08:32 PM Post #51
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	anytyme Sep 8 2012, 08:12 PM wolffanghameha Sep 8 2012, 08:09 PM But each cause is caused by a previous effect (edit: or set of effects), so in a way what will happen to you at any point in your life is predetermined at birth, and even before birth. Example? Ok so I'm born. I go and play on a slide because my mum tells me to. My mum tells me to play on the slide because she believes it's good for kids to play on a slide. She believes it's good for kids to play on slides because she saw another kid playing happily on a slide. But the slide breaks. The slide broke because another kid was swinging off the slide. He swung off it because he saw a cool programme about monkeys. The monkey programme came on tv because someone working at the TV station went to the zoo and saw a cool monkey. Every cause is caused by another effect. Bold=effect. Not bold=cause. edit: I could keep going back and back. I could say why the TV station worker went to the zoo. Maybe he saw an ad. Why did he see an ad? Because the advertisers thought his area was the kind of area filled with zoo-lovers. Why did he move to the area? Because it was nice. Why is it nice......goes on and on Edited by TrunksinSwimmingTrunks, Sep 8 2012, 08:48 PM.
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MrTsoi	Sep 8 2012, 08:46 PM Post #52
What? You wannah peace of me? Posts: 1,338 Group: Member Member #7,834 Joined: June 25, 2012 Gender Male Country Netherlands Favourite Anime Drrr, Danhi Koukesai No Nichijou, Oran Highschool, Dragonball What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Spam section	that's what i meant!!!
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anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 09:04 PM Post #53
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	wolffanghameha Sep 8 2012, 08:32 PM anytyme Sep 8 2012, 08:12 PM wolffanghameha Sep 8 2012, 08:09 PM But each cause is caused by a previous effect (edit: or set of effects), so in a way what will happen to you at any point in your life is predetermined at birth, and even before birth. Example? Ok so I'm born. I go and play on a slide because my mum tells me to. My mum tells me to play on the slide because she believes it's good for kids to play on a slide. She believes it's good for kids to play on slides because she saw another kid playing happily on a slide. But the slide breaks. The slide broke because another kid was swinging off the slide. He swung off it because he saw a cool programme about monkeys. The monkey programme came on tv because someone working at the TV station went to the zoo and saw a cool monkey. Every cause is caused by another effect. Bold=effect. Not bold=cause. edit: I could keep going back and back. I could say why the TV station worker went to the zoo. Maybe he saw an ad. Why did he see an ad? Because the advertisers thought his area was the kind of area filled with zoo-lovers. Why did he move to the area? Because it was nice. Why is it nice......goes on and on The event that took place first was random and all the other events fell into place. Nothing was predetermined.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Sep 8 2012, 09:08 PM Post #54
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	Which event was random? 1 that I listed?
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anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 09:13 PM Post #55
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	The guy going to the zoo



+ Pelador	Sep 8 2012, 09:16 PM Post #56
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Something only appears to be random when you are ignorant of the cause behind it's occurance. Even the direction of the wind is dictated by something.
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TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Sep 8 2012, 09:17 PM Post #57
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	edit: @ anytyme It's not random though. He went to the zoo for a reason, like I said in the edit. Maybe he saw an ad. Maybe his sister works at the zoo. And for either of those causes there are causes, which in turn have their own causes and then there's an infinite amount of causes/effects going back in time. Edited by TrunksinSwimmingTrunks, Sep 8 2012, 09:18 PM.
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MrTsoi	Sep 8 2012, 09:19 PM Post #58
What? You wannah peace of me? Posts: 1,338 Group: Member Member #7,834 Joined: June 25, 2012 Gender Male Country Netherlands Favourite Anime Drrr, Danhi Koukesai No Nichijou, Oran Highschool, Dragonball What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Spam section	yeah all of those work as a chain of some sort..
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* Yu Narukami	Sep 8 2012, 09:51 PM Post #59
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	What a drag. Cause and effect = Destiny. Destiny would be some higher being deciding the decisions you make in your life for you. So, lets take that example. If 'destiny' existed, said higher being would have made you go to the zoo under the pretence of meeting your sister, making it appear to be your own conscious choice. But again, that's going against the idea of 'free will', stating that we have no real power to choose what we do in our lives.



anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 10:07 PM Post #60
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	wolffanghameha Sep 8 2012, 09:17 PM edit: @ anytyme It's not random though. He went to the zoo for a reason, like I said in the edit. Maybe he saw an ad. Maybe his sister works at the zoo. And for either of those causes there are causes, which in turn have their own causes and then there's an infinite amount of causes/effects going back in time. Either way those are all examples of a chain of events. You're arguing for destiny but your logic describes chance events. An example of destiny is the movie final destination, they were destined to die but because of someones premonition they changed their future.



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