Do you believe in destiny?

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Do you believe in destiny?
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anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 07:30 PM Post #31
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	Pillowdoor Sep 8 2012, 07:27 PM I didn't say anything about God Nothing is random. Everything happens for a reason. Cause and effect, ect. Having a destiny means that I am predetermined to do something and I can't avoid it. Past events have shaped how I will live my life. There will only ever be one outcome. Well then what predetermines your destiny? I can choose to kill someone and spend the rest of my life in jail. I can either dump or marry my gf. These choices are not predetermined therefore there is many different outcomes. Edited by anytyme, Sep 8 2012, 07:37 PM.



MrTsoi	Sep 8 2012, 07:36 PM Post #32
What? You wannah peace of me? Posts: 1,338 Group: Member Member #7,834 Joined: June 25, 2012 Gender Male Country Netherlands Favourite Anime Drrr, Danhi Koukesai No Nichijou, Oran Highschool, Dragonball What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Spam section	Well no you have your free will but didn't you forget that abrahamic belief's follow that god is omnipotent? he know's everything if you haven't read the bibal,quran,Torah. They all agree on one thing...THAT GOD KNOW"S EVERTHING... your honour i arrest my case.
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anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 07:38 PM Post #33
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	StormOverlord156 Sep 8 2012, 07:36 PM Well no you have your free will but didn't you forget that abrahamic belief's follow that god is omnipotent? he know's everything if you haven't read the bibal,quran,Torah. They all agree on one thing...THAT GOD KNOW"S EVERTHING... your honour i arrest my case. One problem with your logic is that there is no god.



MrTsoi	Sep 8 2012, 07:42 PM Post #34
What? You wannah peace of me? Posts: 1,338 Group: Member Member #7,834 Joined: June 25, 2012 Gender Male Country Netherlands Favourite Anime Drrr, Danhi Koukesai No Nichijou, Oran Highschool, Dragonball What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Spam section	and how can you prove that sir?
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anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 07:45 PM Post #35
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	A better question how can you prove he does exist. I can't necessarily disprove a god exists but there is strong evidence and facts that negate any need for a god to exist. If you want them and have an open mind I can refer you to some.



* Yu Narukami	Sep 8 2012, 07:46 PM Post #36
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	How troublesome. This debate was inevitable. There's no way any semblance of 'destiny' can exist without there being some sort of driving, existing force behind it, namely a Deity of sorts. I for one, believe in neither. To think that it was a plan or 'destiny' that a person could, say, shoot and murder a multitude of people is a rather depressing thought.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Sep 8 2012, 07:46 PM Post #37
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	anytyme Sep 8 2012, 07:09 PM If destiny is the way pillowdoor is explaining it and god has everything written set in stone then we are just puppets in his play predetermined for heaven or hell which contradicts the bible. So no destiny does not exist. We make our own choices and that's the way it is. The leaf choking the dog is just cause and effect not destiny. Our brains are wired to look for patterns so a way to explain random events that lead to something good or bad someone called it destiny just like when we couldn't explain lightning it had to be god but we know now that isn't true. Well I never mentioned God, and I don't think "Pillowdoor" did either. edit: there doesn't need to be a deity for destiny to exist. Destiny is just things happening as a knock-on effect of other things. Edited by TrunksinSwimmingTrunks, Sep 8 2012, 07:47 PM.
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* Yu Narukami	Sep 8 2012, 07:49 PM Post #38
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	What things exactly? No such reaction or knock-on effect in history has caused an entire species to follow a pre-determined life.



anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 07:50 PM Post #39
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	wolffanghameha Sep 8 2012, 07:46 PM anytyme Sep 8 2012, 07:09 PM If destiny is the way pillowdoor is explaining it and god has everything written set in stone then we are just puppets in his play predetermined for heaven or hell which contradicts the bible. So no destiny does not exist. We make our own choices and that's the way it is. The leaf choking the dog is just cause and effect not destiny. Our brains are wired to look for patterns so a way to explain random events that lead to something good or bad someone called it destiny just like when we couldn't explain lightning it had to be god but we know now that isn't true. Well I never mentioned God, and I don't think "Pillowdoor" did either. edit: there doesn't need to be a deity for destiny to exist. Destiny is just things happening as a knock-on effect of other things. For destiny to exist there has to be a god behind because there is no other explanation of how destiny is, it doesn't just come from nothing.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Sep 8 2012, 07:52 PM Post #40
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	Already said it twice before in this topic. Reason you as an individual do anything/are motivated to do anything is a combination of genetics and your environment.
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* Yu Narukami	Sep 8 2012, 07:54 PM Post #41
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Yes, but when I'm 10 years old, is it determined that I'll, lets say, marry someone? Is it my destiny to do so? Or is Destiny impossibly adapting?



anytyme	Sep 8 2012, 07:56 PM Post #42
Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #8,184 Joined: August 27, 2012 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga dbz	wolffanghameha Sep 8 2012, 07:52 PM Already said it twice before in this topic. Reason you as an individual do anything/are motivated to do anything is a combination of genetics and your environment. That doesn't answer how your life is predetermined by destiny.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Sep 8 2012, 07:58 PM Post #43
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	No, everything is not predetermined at any set time, it adapts as you go through various experiences. However, ultimately how your brain changes is not under your control. Like if you go through a traumatic experience, you could go for counselling, but whether or not you choose to go for counselling depends on other experiences in your life. edit: I guess it depends on what you think destiny means Edited by TrunksinSwimmingTrunks, Sep 8 2012, 07:58 PM.
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MrTsoi	Sep 8 2012, 07:58 PM Post #44
What? You wannah peace of me? Posts: 1,338 Group: Member Member #7,834 Joined: June 25, 2012 Gender Male Country Netherlands Favourite Anime Drrr, Danhi Koukesai No Nichijou, Oran Highschool, Dragonball What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Spam section	Well i did mention God. Anyway i simply can't prove to you god exist anytym since you can only have faith. Anyway the destiny thing is well can't explain destiny. Anyway its just us to that's having this god conversation.... I believe one man's/woman's destiny depends on what path he or she takes.. thats it can't say anymore that that i am afraid Edited by MrTsoi, Sep 8 2012, 08:00 PM.
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* Yu Narukami	Sep 8 2012, 08:00 PM Post #45
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	''The events that will necessarily happen to a particular person or thing in the future.'' That's the definition I've got, anyway.



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