Was gohan really interested in intellectual stuff?

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Was gohan really interested in intellectual stuff?
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~~Paikuan extreme~~	Sep 6 2012, 08:17 AM Post #16
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	nothing in the manga? no brainwashing? chi chi made it clear to gohan on several occasions she didnt want him to be anything like his father. in the manga, in the anime AND the movies she made that clear. so dont harp on the word brainwashing when your trying to put it into cold war secret agent type context. She convinced gohan his life wouldnt be worth anything being a fighter. Watching goku die TWICE convinced him she was right. So yeah, her nagging and constant OVER nagging and yelling made it clear she thought goku was a dummy. How that was lost i dont know, gohan wanted to fight so bad as a kid its ridiculous. especially after his training with piccolo. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Sep 6 2012, 08:18 AM.



Kblo247	Sep 6 2012, 09:06 AM Post #17
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Yeah but who wants a 5 year old facing death when Vegeta and Goku weren'teven expose to serious battle to they were past 10 (as Frieza kept him locked up safe on the ship in the Bardock movie, and he is 10 when fighting nthe saibaman)? Gohan wasn't even the age of most preschoolers when he was off traveling space and killing a Frieza goon with a smile? And if we include the extended anime fight with Gohan and Vegeta, Chi Chiwas the main cheerleader for Gohan begging him to fight and show what her family was made of, same with Cell, and loudly boasting about the show he would put on when he transformed before Kibito. Heck she didn't even fight the 3 years training much in the anime until they didn't even help her with the groceries and wanted her to wash their gear after she had been chased for miles Edited by Kblo247, Sep 6 2012, 09:10 AM.



+ Clearin	Sep 6 2012, 12:20 PM Post #18
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Every half saiyan in the series grew out of fighting by the time they were a teenager. Goten and Trunks also stopped training despite both having fathers who loved it, and at this point Chichi wasn't telling Goten not to do it.



90sDBZ	Sep 6 2012, 02:15 PM Post #19
Posts: 1,356 Group: Member Member #7,850 Joined: June 27, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball Favourite Manga Dragonball	I like to think that gohan at ss2 against cell is a glimpse of what might have been in he'd trained to his full potential and became the main hero of the series. He reminded me so much of goku at this time. In fact he acted just like goku did against frieza and even looked a lot how he did then. Even though he toyed with cell and got goku and trunks killed, goku did the same thing on namek against frieza and allowed him to destroy namek and reach full power when he could have ended it right away. However if we count GT its stated by vegeta that gohan actually isn't behind on his training although this is hard to believe considering he lost mystic and was no match for base goku even at ss2. I guess that's just self-contradicting GT for you.
	"The future of Gohan. The Future of Chi Chi. Not to mention the future of the entire universe. It all depends on me!!!! And I don't care if you're a million times stronger than me! I'm not going to let them down! So get ready Frieza because this time you're going Down!!!"


MrTsoi	Sep 6 2012, 02:15 PM Post #20
What? You wannah peace of me? Posts: 1,338 Group: Member Member #7,834 Joined: June 25, 2012 Gender Male Country Netherlands Favourite Anime Drrr, Danhi Koukesai No Nichijou, Oran Highschool, Dragonball What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Spam section	Kblo247 Sep 6 2012, 01:18 AM StormOverlord156 Sep 5 2012, 09:40 PM Yeah he was kinda afraid of a tiger when he saw one when goku was his age he would scuffle with it. Maybe it's the human side that keeps him from thinking about bashing someone up because he or her looked at him weirdly. and yeah it's maybe the environment he lived in. what's weird he was born with a huge power level and yet so different. maybe gohan is the saiyen of legend we may never find out.. How do you know Goku would scuffle with a tiger? Gohan was 4. Goku was a preteen when he was introduced and had been taught to hunt, fish, and the like by his grandpa. Gokus first serious fight comes at 12, Vegeta fights the saibaman for training at 10, and Gohan is forced to fight with Piccolo and the Saiyans at 5. At 5 years old Gohan did what Goku could do but better on every scale, and he was smarter about it as well as a person and fighter. He was able to sense energy and follow it at 5 in minutes while it took Popo months to get Goku to understand the concept. He was able to hunt and gather at 4 by knowing how to cook meat and what fruits to eat. In filler he even builds a raft based off concepts his books taught him as a 4 year old. He was able to deceive scouters as a toddler by pushing hi pl to 0 while Goku couldn't hide half that much energy at 24. As much as Chi Ci gets grief, Gohans understanding of concepts and skills immediately comes from his comprehension skills that she hammered into him. the only people who got things as quick as him are Piccolo and Vegeta actually. You can even argue that it was because Chi Chi developed his brain, Goku was able to reach his mind as an ape and get him to actually attack Vegeta on command as that by Vegetas admission takes great mental strength to do. Mental strength Goku never possessed outside GT Well duh goku actually kept is instinct,hay! he could have been better hunter than gramps we only know goku's character from what we have seen....and yeah if a saber tooth tiger came after goku..Well lets see if goku likes the taste a tiger and goku took a wolf and said it was dinner so the chances are he might at gohans age effed up a tiger or two in his Childhood..
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~~Paikuan extreme~~	Sep 6 2012, 06:20 PM Post #21
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	90's DBZ the gt perfect files state otherwise, they actually SAY that gohan kept training and was able to relegate his ultimate power to base and rediscovered his SSj forms. In other words, he shook off old kais shackles and got stronger. Thats why BOGT goku is already considered as strong as vegetto in SSJ. because of this, and goku making a comment about rildo being stronger than buu and only using less than half of his power in SSJ according to rildo to fight him. even if its just kid boo, goku is fighting someone stronger than him in base. Then went into ssj to let him know there was no point in fighting.



90sDBZ	Sep 6 2012, 07:18 PM Post #22
Posts: 1,356 Group: Member Member #7,850 Joined: June 27, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball Favourite Manga Dragonball	Ninjajp247 Sep 6 2012, 06:20 PM the gt perfect files state otherwise, they actually SAY that gohan kept training and was able to relegate his ultimate power to base and rediscovered his SSj forms. In other words, he shook off old kais shackles and got stronger. I know the files say that but it just seems so dumb because it completely contradicts what mystic was to begin with. Mystic put all of his power into his natural form including super saiyan 1 and 2 so that he wouldn't need to waste energy transforming and also brought him to the absolute maximum of his potential. His super saiyan power was all there in his natural state so it would be impossible for him to get stronger by going super saiyan. Re-unlocking the forms would just be a bad thing because it brings back the strain and limited energy suply from transforming. Simply put mystic made him a constant super saiyan with the appearance of base form so there is simply no way he could get stronger by becoming what he already was. The only conceivable explanation is he lost mystic and went back to how he was before.
	"The future of Gohan. The Future of Chi Chi. Not to mention the future of the entire universe. It all depends on me!!!! And I don't care if you're a million times stronger than me! I'm not going to let them down! So get ready Frieza because this time you're going Down!!!"


Prince .	Sep 6 2012, 07:34 PM Post #23
NO.1 Miz fan in the world . MIZ IS AWESOME . Posts: 2,245 Group: Probation Member #7,275 Joined: February 3, 2012 Gender Not Specified	If Chi Chi dies when she gives birth to Gohan he would be a musclary man without a brain .



~~Paikuan extreme~~	Sep 6 2012, 07:56 PM Post #24
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	90sDBZ Sep 6 2012, 07:18 PM Ninjajp247 Sep 6 2012, 06:20 PM the gt perfect files state otherwise, they actually SAY that gohan kept training and was able to relegate his ultimate power to base and rediscovered his SSj forms. In other words, he shook off old kais shackles and got stronger. I know the files say that but it just seems so dumb because it completely contradicts what mystic was to begin with. Mystic put all of his power into his natural form including super saiyan 1 and 2 so that he wouldn't need to waste energy transforming and also brought him to the absolute maximum of his potential. His super saiyan power was all there in his natural state so it would be impossible for him to get stronger by going super saiyan. Re-unlocking the forms would just be a bad thing because it brings back the strain and limited energy suply from transforming. Simply put mystic made him a constant super saiyan with the appearance of base form so there is simply no way he could get stronger by becoming what he already was. The only conceivable explanation is he lost mystic and went back to how he was before. but if there is a certain way you can train and overcome the power you already have? then its possible that gohans ssj2 form in gt equals to ssj3 still. and since he never discovered ssj3 then just like vegeta? he gets stronger in said form. so with old kai relegating what gohan already had to base? in no way does that limit gohans ability to get stronger. so although he equals super saiyan in base, he still has to actually transform to achieve it. surpassing said power and rediscovering the power up could work in his favor, not indicate he is weaker. So base form equals ultimate gohan, and SSj gohan equals stronger than ultimate. But thats all in just believing that the mystic form was lost only through not training, which we know for a fact gohan didnt do. He continued to train and got stronger. old kai relegating all of his power at that time to base also doesnt keep gohan from gaining any more power. It just drew out the hidden power that continued to grow even though it had already been released twice before. so now he should be on even keel. No more hidden power, he needed to train to make this happen.



90sDBZ	Sep 6 2012, 08:42 PM Post #25
Posts: 1,356 Group: Member Member #7,850 Joined: June 27, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball Favourite Manga Dragonball	Ninjajp247 Sep 6 2012, 07:56 PM but if there is a certain way you can train and overcome the power you already have? then its possible that gohans ssj2 form in gt equals to ssj3 still. and since he never discovered ssj3 then just like vegeta? he gets stronger in said form. so with old kai relegating what gohan already had to base? in no way does that limit gohans ability to get stronger. so although he equals super saiyan in base, he still has to actually transform to achieve it. surpassing said power and rediscovering the power up could work in his favor, not indicate he is weaker. So base form equals ultimate gohan, and SSj gohan equals stronger than ultimate. But thats all in just believing that the mystic form was lost only through not training, which we know for a fact gohan didnt do. He continued to train and got stronger. old kai relegating all of his power at that time to base also doesnt keep gohan from gaining any more power. It just drew out the hidden power that continued to grow even though it had already been released twice before. so now he should be on even keel. No more hidden power, he needed to train to make this happen. I agree that he definitely could have grown stronger through training but would still have not gained more strength by going super saiyan. Training would just make his mystic state even stronger but couldn't possibly re-unlock super saiyan. I'm thinking that for a while he neglected his training and lost mystic and regained super saiyan then started training again and eventually got his ss2 to be stronger than mystic. So in other words training made him stronger again after regaining ss1 and ss2 made him weaker. Or maybe he lost mystic after getting killed by kid buu, or maybe it was never meant to be permanent, after all it was gained from a strange kind of magic and achieved under strange circumstances. Edited by 90sDBZ, Sep 6 2012, 08:45 PM.
	"The future of Gohan. The Future of Chi Chi. Not to mention the future of the entire universe. It all depends on me!!!! And I don't care if you're a million times stronger than me! I'm not going to let them down! So get ready Frieza because this time you're going Down!!!"


~~Frankie~~	Sep 6 2012, 08:55 PM Post #26
Posts: 573 Group: GTFO Member #593 Joined: August 8, 2005	I'm sure in some things he was interested. But more so, he had a hidden warrior inside him. Saiyan Pride.



Kblo247	Sep 6 2012, 09:07 PM Post #27
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Reunlocking ssj in GT could be seen as regulating his new power from training, sort of like how Broky throws out energy randomly. Maybe he had to As for his personality vs Cell, Gohan is still unique as he is the only half breed born whose parent had ape DNA dominant over ssj one. He had a split personality as opposed to the boys who were all born from ssjs and were care free



DBZAOTA482	Sep 6 2012, 10:55 PM Post #28
Posts: 1,798 Group: Member Member #5,093 Joined: August 2, 2010 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z, One Piece, Akira, School Rumble, Detective Conan. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome, Internet Explorer.	PrinCe . Sep 6 2012, 07:34 PM If Chi Chi dies when she gives birth to Gohan he would be a musclary man without a brain . No, he'd be a country bumpkin like his pops but he still wouldn't have the same love for fighting although he'd be more willing to drop the gauntlet.



Kblo247	Sep 7 2012, 12:15 AM Post #29
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	DBZAOTA482 Sep 6 2012, 10:55 PM PrinCe . Sep 6 2012, 07:34 PM If Chi Chi dies when she gives birth to Gohan he would be a musclary man without a brain . No, he'd be a country bumpkin like his pops but he still wouldn't have the same love for fighting although he'd be more willing to drop the gauntlet. He wouldn't get concepts as quickly as he did from Chi Ci having developed his brain though so there is a downside, as he would be a stupider fighter even if more willing



Kblo247	Sep 7 2012, 03:34 AM Post #30
Posts: 5,234 Group: Member Member #6,870 Joined: October 16, 2011	Question I have to ask: Do you think Gohan had to be forced into something to excel and get it? I mean Chi Chi forced him to study. Piccolo forced him to survive. In the anime which focuses more on him going ssj, Goku had to damn near kill him. Cell had to push him to ascend. Character flaw



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